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  • galattgalatt Member Posts: 708 Arc User
    This is Trek in it's purest form.
    Please, give whoever wrote this my praise and a raise.
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  • lordbrowaruslordbrowarus Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    Great! I wish that these stories were more in-game, as cutscenes or even records like Sela's ico reputation.

    10 forward? So on Odyssey the cafeteria is also on 10th deck? In TNG cafeteria was named "10F" on Enterprise, that wasn't official name of it on every Galaxy. I understand that this is next next Enterprise (tradition and so) but now I wanna see blueprints of Oddy. >:)
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    I see Na'kuhl citizens are transported to Alliance worlds... Na'kuhl playable species soon? :)
  • captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    Any chance this, and all other "out-of game" lore could be included in-game for those folks who don't use the Forums?

    It could be placed in a sort of galactic library that anyone could visit...

    arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/comment/12802566

    o:)
  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    On a kinda related note, arnt the Na'Kuhl eyes supposed to be red?
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    Hmmm...underwhelmed here. I was REALLY wanting to see this go more in the "science-y" direction that Sunrise and the blog with Kumaarke suggested might happen, such as my proposal to attempt ignition of a gas giant in the Na'kuhl system as a stopgap measure to buy time for a proper colonization effort. Instead, it feels like now we've got headlines with the serial numbers filed off. I know that happened in Trek sometimes but I was getting REALLY geared up for some geeky stuff.

    Back to the science please...things were starting out so promising with putting the science in the science fiction that I'd hate to see that go by the wayside. IMO that was the best way we were going to get an exploration feel to something in STO, so I'm very sorry to see that go.

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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    I get the impression this is heavily influenced by some real-world events. Not that that's a bad thing!

    Keep these coming, Cryptic. And maybe find a way to put them in the actual game?
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    More from the Department of Sci-Fi Solutions I would have liked to see instead of going the easier/non-sci/non-exploration route...

    We know from the lockbox ships and kit modules that we have a limited ability to open solar gateways. At close range this is highly destructive, but at a proper distance away from Na'kuhl (or with the use of large lenses in orbit to diffuse the incoming solar rays to a safe level and spread them over a larger area) it might be possible to temporarily "rent a sun" until a more orderly evacuation to a new system en mass can be planned and executed.

    Angering the Tholians and T'Ket is an added bonus. ;)

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  • farshorefarshore Member Posts: 353 Arc User
    I don't really like the idea of Lux Troi still being alive in 2410. She'd be positively ancient, not to mention that the actress who played her has since past on.
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    farshore wrote: »
    I don't really like the idea of Lux Troi still being alive in 2410. She'd be positively ancient, not to mention that the actress who played her has since past on.

    I also didn't like her as an ambassador. She was particularly grating when it came to the Cairn, insisting that the Cairn actually get surgery to conform, instead of using a non-invasive means of bridging the communication gap such as sign language.

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  • akalsaris1akalsaris1 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    The article is an interesting example of the world-building that STO works so hard at. You could make a drinking game out of all the Trek shout-outs here, with a mention of a character or race from every single ST series all in one article.

    Reminds me of this comic, actually:
    http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/07/23/san-diego-sketchbook-on-vibroblades

    Otherwise an interesting attempt at a comment on current political issues, which is unexpected. It seems at odds with the episodes' content, though, which implied that it would be a cold day in hell before the Na'kuhl accepted any Federation assistance at all.
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    akalsaris13, You hit the nail on the head! This feels rather shoehorned in light of what was shown in the prior episodes. Even though the Na'kuhl really WERE getting a cold day in hell, they seemed to be giving a giant middle finger to everyone.

    Dagnabbit, the sci-fi opportunities wasted...that bit with Kumaarke doing a scientific expedition really should've been capitalized on.

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  • bioixibioixi Member Posts: 764 Arc User
    gulberat wrote: »
    farshore wrote: »
    I don't really like the idea of Lux Troi still being alive in 2410. She'd be positively ancient, not to mention that the actress who played her has since past on.

    I also didn't like her as an ambassador. She was particularly grating when it came to the Cairn, insisting that the Cairn actually get surgery to conform, instead of using a non-invasive means of bridging the communication gap such as sign language.

    I really hate that character, how the hell did she end up as an ambassador, she's the opposite of diplomatic.
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    Haha, that's actually one of the reasons I have the ambassador in my Foundry mission NOT act like a jerk (I still need to follow that mission up someday...I've been such a slacker). So many ambassadors in Trek act that way that it's actually rather stereotype-breaking to have one show the grace and diplomacy required by his or her job. :D

    (Edit: You CAN tick him off with a few of the dialogue options, but you pretty much have to make a jerk of yourself for it to happen instead of the typical Trek ambassador trope of their acting that way without a very good reason. ;) )

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  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,769 Arc User
    farshore wrote: »
    I don't really like the idea of Lux Troi still being alive in 2410. She'd be positively ancient, not to mention that the actress who played her has since past on.

    Shoot. I read too fast and thought they made Deanna Troi ambassador. Yeah, Lux would be pretty old.

  • roamingmuttroamingmutt Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    Love these stories and they play into the real world too. Refugees looking for a new home while others are hesitant to open up or are down right hostile to the idea. Remind anyone of anything?
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    The Na'Kuhl leadership might hate the Federation, but I'm sure the civilians are more than happy to get away from their rapidly-dying homeworld if there are people willing to take them in. Again, a reflection of real-world events.

    And I'd rather have a personal story than one filled with sci-fi technobabble any day of the week.
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  • alchevsk1992alchevsk1992 Member Posts: 280 Arc User
    On a kinda related note, arnt the Na'Kuhl eyes supposed to be red?

    Yes, but the devs messed up.
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  • captaind3captaind3 Member Posts: 2,449 Arc User
    I do not envy Shon. He has quite the mess to clean up.

    My only beef with this storyline was the brain deadedness of our future friend hiding the Tox Uthat before using it to repair the damage that had been caused. To say nothing about the, but thou mustness of the aftermath of his death. We know where and when the thing is, it wasn't like we couldn't have gone back and gotten it.
    I get the impression this is heavily influenced by some real-world events. Not that that's a bad thing!

    Keep these coming, Cryptic. And maybe find a way to put them in the actual game?

    And that is Trek at its best in its purest. A future reflection of us.
    The Na'Kuhl leadership might hate the Federation, but I'm sure the civilians are more than happy to get away from their rapidly-dying homeworld if there are people willing to take them in. Again, a reflection of real-world events.

    And I'd rather have a personal story than one filled with sci-fi technobabble any day of the week.

    I say both. Science fiction is the vehicle through which we meet and deal with these people.
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  • oldravenman3025oldravenman3025 Member Posts: 1,892 Arc User

    All this "ripped from today's headlines" TRIBBLE was old on television dramas long ago, and it's just as stale here. An attempt to be "Trek" a la TNG, and the poorly disguised soap-boxing that comes with that approach. Plus, after our character's "glorious contribution" to the "epic" Blog War against Iconia, storytelling through blogs gets stale after a while (well written or not). This stuff should be in the game, backstory and all.

    It also breaks with the narrative progression up until now. It's clear in the previous FE that the Na'kuhl basically told us, in no uncertain terms, to go TRIBBLE ourselves and die in a fire. They don't want our help. And combined with Captain Walker's comments regarding them, you get the impression that they stuck to that, and we shouldn't change things. In their eyes, the Alliance was just as responsible for their dying homeworld as the Tholians (not to mention, people from a future time period where folks are rather cavalier with time travel). And now, they want our help in a major way? They accept our offers to take them in? Sorry, I'm not seeing it. If anything, they are hostile and bitter. And they are NOT in a forgiving mood.



  • yandreyyandrey Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    galatt wrote: »
    This is Trek in it's purest form.
    Please, give whoever wrote this my praise and a raise.
    gulberat wrote: »
    I was REALLY wanting to see this go more in the "science-y" direction that Sunrise and the blog with Kumaarke suggested might happen, such as my proposal to attempt ignition of a gas giant in the Na'kuhl system as a stopgap measure to buy time for a proper colonization effort.

    If STO chose to make cutscenes not only for the action, but also for these "human" conversations (unlike the movies, which cut philosophical debates for more action-time) that would be so amazingly Trek. If it were Picard and Troi, they'd be talking just like this. However, I also agree with you, Gul Berat. I was expecting to see myself dig up some files on that scientist from that episode in DS9 who woke up a star. There had to be something we could do.

    So how about combining the two? What if the diplomats and tactical officers were to open a proper federation, Trek dialog with the Na'kuhl, while Starfleet's finest engineers and scientists would recreate the method used by that (dead) professor. The Romulan and Klingon scientists can get involved too, and though there is still some tension between the three factions, the scientists will write history (This tension could build up with each episode for a future story arc). Tholians will try to stop you, sure, and maybe the Tholian Resistance could get an upgrade (armor based on Tholian EV-suits and the like). Maybe a final showdown where you have to win the Na'kuhl's trust by stating the purpose of the federation and the universe with their blade at your throat, while your team ignites the star using a huge Tholian ship visible from your location on the planet. You leave the Na'kuhl alone, and we scientists can go collect and analyze 150 different and unique species of flora and fauna on New Romulus for a cool accolade, title, and a cookie :smiley:

    The End.

    PS: Getting my hopes up again... Shouldn't do that...
  • crm14916crm14916 Member Posts: 1,535 Arc User
    Desperate times call for desperate measures, and that lady in the last story may have actually worked her way in on positive terms...

    Also, Like it was mentioned above, I really enjoy the fact that this story seems to correlate to events happening in our current lives. It gives us the opportunity to sit back and reflect on how much/little things change, but that our attitudes about them can change. Again, ditto the comments about it feeling like real Trek!

    Good reads! Now, gimme my T6 Vesta and Odyssey already!
    :)
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    farshore wrote: »
    I don't really like the idea of Lux Troi still being alive in 2410. She'd be positively ancient, not to mention that the actress who played her has since past on.

    True, the actress has passed, but Lwaxana Troi is too stubborn to die. :P
  • lessley00lessley00 Member Posts: 1,200 Arc User
    crm14916 wrote: »

    Good reads! Now, gimme my T6 Vesta and Odyssey already!
    :)
    CM

    amen
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    Grand Master Thotok, son of Koloth, I.K.S. Sompek==Dahar Master Shanara, I.K.S. Balth'Quv

    Admiral R'Tath V'Tirex, R.R.W. Dhael Glohha'enh==Commander Ta'eth Korval, R.R.W Hachae ch'Rhian==Admiral Vranuk, R.R.W Delevhas
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    crm14916 wrote: »

    Good reads! Now, gimme my T6 Vesta and Odyssey already!

    Preaching to the choir, monsieur. T6 Ody!
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    Regarding Na'kuhl eyes, I actually don't think that's a dev mess-up. The Na'kuhl didn't have hair either in Enterprise. Similar to the Suliban Cabal, I suspected immediately that the Na'kuhl altered themselves in pursuit of the master race philosophy that we saw in ENT.

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  • lessley00lessley00 Member Posts: 1,200 Arc User
    wait when were they in ENT?
    Rings a bell but I cant remember
    Captain Joseph Riker, U.S.S. Odyssey==General V'Mar, U.S.S. Blackwater-A==Admiral Laura Holmes, U.S.S. Forward Unto Dawn
    Grand Master Thotok, son of Koloth, I.K.S. Sompek==Dahar Master Shanara, I.K.S. Balth'Quv

    Admiral R'Tath V'Tirex, R.R.W. Dhael Glohha'enh==Commander Ta'eth Korval, R.R.W Hachae ch'Rhian==Admiral Vranuk, R.R.W Delevhas
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    "Storm Front," a.k.a. the Space TRIBBLE episode.

    (And FYI it isn't a Godwin when TRIBBLE are directly germane to the subject at hand. :p)

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  • captaincelestialcaptaincelestial Member Posts: 1,925 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    Great! I wish that these stories were more in-game, as cutscenes or even records like Sela's ico reputation.

    10 forward? So on Odyssey the cafeteria is also on 10th deck? In TNG cafeteria was named "10F" on Enterprise, that wasn't official name of it on every Galaxy. I understand that this is next next Enterprise (tradition and so) but now I wanna see blueprints of Oddy. >:)

    Well, this Enterprise is an Odyssey Class (which means it's this ship is the first of the line of that class), the second ship to replace the Galaxy class, with the Sovereign Class starship in the middle. :)
  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    Thanks to captain Shon for trying to fix what our player characters broke by running away with the Tox Uthat instead of using it to fix the Na'Kuhl sun. By the way when will I finally get my demotion to crewman third class plasma conduit scrubber for that?
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