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  • meathook2099meathook2099 Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    It looks like a cannons vs beams debate with a little elitism thrown in for good measure.
    Lots of people including myself have advocated for buffing cannons.
    I must admit that I don't care about how much damage magic black holes do though or any other non Trek magic powers (just my opinion).
    With the seeming demise of PvP it's us against the NPCs so the more powerful my team is the better.
    What is the counter argument to that?
    If PVP isn't the deciding factor then how does my teammate's ability to devastate the enemy negatively effect me unless I'm secretly jealous?
    I like to shoot at stuff and watch it blow up. How does my ability to do that negatively effect you if we're on the same team and we share the same goal?

















  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    It looks like a cannons vs beams debate with a little elitism thrown in for good measure.
    Lots of people including myself have advocated for buffing cannons.
    I must admit that I don't care about how much damage magic black holes do though or any other non Trek magic powers (just my opinion).
    With the seeming demise of PvP it's us against the NPCs so the more powerful my team is the better.
    What is the counter argument to that?
    If PVP isn't the deciding factor then how does my teammate's ability to devastate the enemy negatively effect me unless I'm secretly jealous?
    I like to shoot at stuff and watch it blow up. How does my ability to do that negatively effect you if we're on the same team and we share the same goal?
    Did you sleep through DR? That's how it negatively affects everyone.
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    It looks like a cannons vs beams debate with a little elitism thrown in for good measure.
    Lots of people including myself have advocated for buffing cannons.
    I must admit that I don't care about how much damage magic black holes do though or any other non Trek magic powers (just my opinion).
    With the seeming demise of PvP it's us against the NPCs so the more powerful my team is the better.
    What is the counter argument to that?
    If PVP isn't the deciding factor then how does my teammate's ability to devastate the enemy negatively effect me unless I'm secretly jealous?
    I like to shoot at stuff and watch it blow up. How does my ability to do that negatively effect you if we're on the same team and we share the same goal?

    SERIOUSLY? YOU GUYS KNOW HOW TO READ RIGHT? MOAR DPS = MORE HP BLOAT.

    Unless you want another DR "balance" pass, buffing everything to broken is not a good idea. Balancing the powers by lowering BFAW and increase torp and cannons is. Your power is not the only thing to get power creep. In any game, as the player gets more power, so does the content. Tell ya what, go to an RPG store. Look at the core book of any RPG and the enemies it has. Then look at the monsters in the latest splat book. You will see they are bigger, badder and more full of death. Stop assuming that these buffs will happened in a stagnant evironment. DR has proven it will not. Hell, pretty much any game that is in constant development has proven it will not. So stop with this whole no downside BS...there is a HUGE TRIBBLE downside...that being DR part 2.

    This. Unmitigated power creep will lead to even more bloated HP for enemies, like with DR.
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  • zero2362zero2362 Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    It looks like a cannons vs beams debate with a little elitism thrown in for good measure.
    Lots of people including myself have advocated for buffing cannons.
    I must admit that I don't care about how much damage magic black holes do though or any other non Trek magic powers (just my opinion).
    With the seeming demise of PvP it's us against the NPCs so the more powerful my team is the better.
    What is the counter argument to that?
    If PVP isn't the deciding factor then how does my teammate's ability to devastate the enemy negatively effect me unless I'm secretly jealous?
    I like to shoot at stuff and watch it blow up. How does my ability to do that negatively effect you if we're on the same team and we share the same goal?
    I like to shoot at stuff and watch it blow up as well. My problem is that I dont get to do that because usually one of my other teamates opend fire before I did and instantly killed everything around him so i rarly get to land more than one or two hits. That isnt fun. The real sad thing is im just as capable of instakilling stuff as my teamates are so on the rare occasion where i get to launch the first salvo my team are the ones complaining about not getting to pew pew and that isnt fun ether

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  • meathook2099meathook2099 Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    Your argument is illogical and is the intellectual equivalent of, "Big Macs are the cause of obesity in America. Nerf Big Macs and buff Whoppers".
    Increasing cannon and torpedo damage won't contribute to power creep? BFAW is the leading contributor to power creep?
    I read fine thank you.
    I simply don't agree with you.











  • meathook2099meathook2099 Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    zero2362 wrote: »
    It looks like a cannons vs beams debate with a little elitism thrown in for good measure.
    Lots of people including myself have advocated for buffing cannons.
    I must admit that I don't care about how much damage magic black holes do though or any other non Trek magic powers (just my opinion).
    With the seeming demise of PvP it's us against the NPCs so the more powerful my team is the better.
    What is the counter argument to that?
    If PVP isn't the deciding factor then how does my teammate's ability to devastate the enemy negatively effect me unless I'm secretly jealous?
    I like to shoot at stuff and watch it blow up. How does my ability to do that negatively effect you if we're on the same team and we share the same goal?
    I like to shoot at stuff and watch it blow up as well. My problem is that I dont get to do that because usually one of my other teamates opend fire before I did and instantly killed everything around him so i rarly get to land more than one or two hits. That isnt fun. The real sad thing is im just as capable of instakilling stuff as my teamates are so on the rare occasion where i get to launch the first salvo my team are the ones complaining about not getting to pew pew and that isnt fun ether

    Thank you for being honest.
    So the answer would seem to be to nerf everything to prevent the necessity of making the NPCs stronger.
    I can support that.
  • kerygankerygan Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    i like to see in ISA chat : why didn't you WAIT for my GO omffgwaterfac!!!!
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  • risingwolfshadowrisingwolfshadow Member Posts: 619 Arc User
    This is all PvErs complaining about BFAW, the only PvPers left in this game are people like Corbin and Bauklotz who pay to win by using the broken gear that is sold to us by cryptic and incidentally are the kind of player a lot of players run into, end up hating and eventually put them off PvP all together because they stand no chance. Can you guess why?? It's because the larger PvE community doesn't want balance!! Balance ruins a player's ability to faceroll everyone in 2 seconds without needing skill but that's exactly what you wanted so why are you complaining now!? Enjoy your game with broken gear and abilities! You don't have to think just press the spacebar repeatedly.

    P.S. How does it feel knowing you helped the type PvPers you you hated?
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  • risingwolfshadowrisingwolfshadow Member Posts: 619 Arc User
    But you sure have made it easy for everyone to troll.
  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    edited December 2015
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    Hey guys, this is supposed to be a thread for chuckles, not warring over BFaw - thats what the other thread is faw, err, for​​
  • zero2362zero2362 Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    burstorion wrote: »
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    Hey guys, this is supposed to be a thread for chuckles, not warring over BFaw - thats what the other thread is faw, err, for​​

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  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    What they said ^^

    Serious discussion in the other thread please.
  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    I have no skills with photoshop so can someone make this one for my signature please?



    Coffee. Bacon. FAW.

    Part of this good breakfast.



    Use whatever visualizations you like. ;)
  • zero2362zero2362 Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    I have devised the next evolution of FAW. This new version takes over your Toon at night and beats content for you while you sleep. I call it Snore at will
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  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    samt1996 wrote: »
    I have no skills with photoshop so can someone make this one for my signature please?



    Coffee. Bacon. FAW.

    Part of this good breakfast.



    Use whatever visualizations you like. ;)

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    There you go :p​​
  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    Thanks!
  • theillusivenmantheillusivenman Member Posts: 438 Arc User
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    This thread brings teh lolz, keep it rollin.
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  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,916 Arc User
    burstorion wrote: »
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    You need a beam coming from the mouth of the skull
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    echatty wrote: »
    burstorion wrote: »
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    You need a beam coming from the mouth of the skull

    I thought so too after looking at it but alas I goofed and only saved the jpeg, not the .psd (photoshop file) so I can't go back and mess with it (I suspect a upper jaw beam would interfere with the wording)​​
  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    oops, had a minor doofus moment and hit quote instead of edit​​
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    burstorion wrote: »
    echatty wrote: »
    burstorion wrote: »
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    You need a beam coming from the mouth of the skull

    I thought so too after looking at it but alas I goofed and only saved the jpeg, not the .psd (photoshop file) so I can't go back and mess with it (I suspect a upper jaw beam would interfere with the wording)​​

    Guess you could add some beams coming from the eyes of the human, drilling their way into the skull!
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  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    burstorion wrote: »
    echatty wrote: »
    burstorion wrote: »
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    You need a beam coming from the mouth of the skull

    I thought so too after looking at it but alas I goofed and only saved the jpeg, not the .psd (photoshop file) so I can't go back and mess with it (I suspect a upper jaw beam would interfere with the wording)

    Guess you could add some beams coming from the eyes of the human, drilling their way into the skull!

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    Nice idea!​​
  • mooncrystalpowermooncrystalpower Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited December 2015
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    Post edited by mooncrystalpower on
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