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  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    zero2362 wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    tfomega wrote: »
    id0licious wrote: »
    Wow, really ?


    "JUST NERF BFAW CUZ DAT'S WUT ALL DA BIG BOIS ARE USIN' SO IT MUS BE O.P. STATUS!"

    No. It's overused because there are very few other options that are viable. The ability itself is fine;

    Check your facts. It double procs

    Pffft...facts. You want people who want to keep their OBVIOUSLY broken ability to be bothered by something as trivial as facts? Your funny.

    If you look at the current issues with FAW:
    • Kemocite crits at half the intended rate
    • Kemocite procs don't scale with any damage boosts
    • Kemocite procs at twice the intended rate
    • FAW drains extra weapon power
    • FAW doesn't apply accuracy overflow

    FAW innately, for everyone, has bugs that decrease it's damage. FAW does not have an innate bug that increases it's damage for everyone; a different ability is buggy during FAW, but overall in such a way that it does significantly less than it would normally. Bug train's not gonna fly, folks.

    So what your saying is this ability that can out DPS cannon AOE abilities and out DPS single target abilities even in single target situations is still doing less DPS then it is intended to and you dont think its OP.

    The hell you smokin

    What I'm saying is this:
    • The reason it's good isn't because of bugs.
    • Something being the best doesn't mean it needs nerfs.

    Mostly I was trying to say the first.
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  • zero2362zero2362 Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    zero2362 wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    tfomega wrote: »
    id0licious wrote: »
    Wow, really ?


    "JUST NERF BFAW CUZ DAT'S WUT ALL DA BIG BOIS ARE USIN' SO IT MUS BE O.P. STATUS!"

    No. It's overused because there are very few other options that are viable. The ability itself is fine;

    Check your facts. It double procs

    Pffft...facts. You want people who want to keep their OBVIOUSLY broken ability to be bothered by something as trivial as facts? Your funny.

    If you look at the current issues with FAW:
    • Kemocite crits at half the intended rate
    • Kemocite procs don't scale with any damage boosts
    • Kemocite procs at twice the intended rate
    • FAW drains extra weapon power
    • FAW doesn't apply accuracy overflow

    FAW innately, for everyone, has bugs that decrease it's damage. FAW does not have an innate bug that increases it's damage for everyone; a different ability is buggy during FAW, but overall in such a way that it does significantly less than it would normally. Bug train's not gonna fly, folks.

    So what your saying is this ability that can out DPS cannon AOE abilities and out DPS single target abilities even in single target situations is still doing less DPS then it is intended to and you dont think its OP.

    The hell you smokin

    What I'm saying is this:
    • The reason it's good isn't because of bugs.
    • Something being the best doesn't mean it needs nerfs.

    Mostly I was trying to say the first.

    To be fair im more interested in seeing other weapons and abilities brought up to the level of performance that FAW provides then seeing FAW get nerfed

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  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    zero2362 wrote: »
    zero2362 wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    tfomega wrote: »
    id0licious wrote: »
    Wow, really ?


    "JUST NERF BFAW CUZ DAT'S WUT ALL DA BIG BOIS ARE USIN' SO IT MUS BE O.P. STATUS!"

    No. It's overused because there are very few other options that are viable. The ability itself is fine;

    Check your facts. It double procs

    Pffft...facts. You want people who want to keep their OBVIOUSLY broken ability to be bothered by something as trivial as facts? Your funny.

    If you look at the current issues with FAW:
    • Kemocite crits at half the intended rate
    • Kemocite procs don't scale with any damage boosts
    • Kemocite procs at twice the intended rate
    • FAW drains extra weapon power
    • FAW doesn't apply accuracy overflow

    FAW innately, for everyone, has bugs that decrease it's damage. FAW does not have an innate bug that increases it's damage for everyone; a different ability is buggy during FAW, but overall in such a way that it does significantly less than it would normally. Bug train's not gonna fly, folks.

    So what your saying is this ability that can out DPS cannon AOE abilities and out DPS single target abilities even in single target situations is still doing less DPS then it is intended to and you dont think its OP.

    The hell you smokin

    What I'm saying is this:
    • The reason it's good isn't because of bugs.
    • Something being the best doesn't mean it needs nerfs.

    Mostly I was trying to say the first.

    To be fair im more interested in seeing other weapons and abilities brought up to the level of performance that FAW provides then seeing FAW get nerfed

    I'd rather not have another "The players love it!" expansion to compensate for everything being raised to BFAW's level.
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  • meathook2099meathook2099 Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    Except that it's not broken.
    A 19th century British battleship could unleash an awesome broadside against a single target.
    A 25th century battleship should be able to do at least that as well as aiming its guns independently and hitting multiple targets.
    The argument against BFAW fails because it makes no sense.
    the Star Trek universe was built on massive ships trading beam and torpedo salvos and not on little ships spitting lasers at death stars or spawning black holes.

    LET THERE BE TREK !!!!
    There is no "sense" behind game abilities.
    If my officers know how to fire 5 beams instead of 4 per beam cycle, why don't they do it all the time? Why can they do it more often when enemies miss me?
    Why can they focus all those beams on one target when there is only one, but spread their shots across multiple targets when there are more?

    Or rather, there is sense - the sense is found in that it's a game ability ,and it follows design guidelines for the ability. And one of those guidelines is usually concerned with balance.

    I started playing this game a long time ago.
    There were a lot of Tactical Captains who wanted to fly cruisers because whether you like it or not Star Trek is about cruisers.
    They were told, "If you want to do DPS you have to fly an escort because cruisers are tanks and you have to switch to engineer if you want to fly a cruiser because DPS is exclusively for tiny little ships sporting cannons.
    Well guess what?
    Star Trek isn't about little ships. Star Trek is about big ships blowing up other big ships ( this refers to space battles. I'm not looking for a lecture on The Great Bird's philosophy.)
    Now we are at a point where space battles are looking a lot more Trek like.
    As far as torpedoes go, torpedoes should drain shields and do kinetic damage.

    As far as balance goes, what balance are you talking about?
    If your statement about balance is PvP related then you obviously realize that that ship has sailed and IMHO we're all better off for it.
    If your statement is about balancing ship types for DPS then you must realize that an escort sporting cannons is a single target weapons platform and will not be as effective against multiple targets.
    That makes sense. :wink:

    LONG LIVE STAR TREK AND BFAW !!!!!



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  • kyrrokkyrrok Member Posts: 1,352 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Faw not getting accuracy overflow isn't a bug with faw since this seems to be the case with all weapons. I think listing a general weapons bug as a faw bug is disingenuous to say the least.

    No acc overflow with BFAW? Acc overflow don't work on anything at all. Or did they fix it?
  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Faw not getting accuracy overflow isn't a bug with faw since this seems to be the case with all weapons. I think listing a general weapons bug as a faw bug is disingenuous to say the least.

    Acc overflow works under normal circumstances.
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  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Faw not getting accuracy overflow isn't a bug with faw since this seems to be the case with all weapons. I think listing a general weapons bug as a faw bug is disingenuous to say the least.

    Acc overflow works under normal circumstances.

    Does the auto-hit Torpedo Spread get overflow? If it doesn't then the auto-hit BFAW shouldn't either. BFAW and TS aren't normal circumstances, they can't miss.
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  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Faw not getting accuracy overflow isn't a bug with faw since this seems to be the case with all weapons. I think listing a general weapons bug as a faw bug is disingenuous to say the least.

    Acc overflow works under normal circumstances.

    Does the auto-hit Torpedo Spread get overflow? If it doesn't then the auto-hit BFAW shouldn't either. BFAW and TS aren't normal circumstances, they can't miss.

    15:12:12:18:27:13.0::Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:13.7::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:13.9::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:16.0::Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:16.4::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:17.1::h2o,P[3297369@5353877 h2o@h2o4dp],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Disruptor Beam Array - Fire at Will II,Pn.9yzzrm,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:28.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.8::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.9::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:30.3::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:31.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41665 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:32.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41665 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:32.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41653 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:01.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41663 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:18.3::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41745 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R3_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:18.5::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41745 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R3_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:24.4::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41663 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:26.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Icarus Class Escort,C[41720 Space_Federation_Escort_Pilot_Sci_Distress],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:26.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:27.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Scorpion Fighter,C[41642 Space_Scorpion_Fighter_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:28.0::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Krenim Heavy Raider,C[41651 Space_Krenim_Frigate_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:30.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Scorpion Fighter,C[41642 Space_Scorpion_Fighter_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:31.7::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:32.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Nimbus Pirate Distress Call,C[41749 Space_Nimbus_Pirate_Distress_4],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:32.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Thofir,P[4052425@3340893 Thofir@Happymortal],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:33.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0


    That's all the FAW misses in my last ISA.
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  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Faw not getting accuracy overflow isn't a bug with faw since this seems to be the case with all weapons. I think listing a general weapons bug as a faw bug is disingenuous to say the least.

    Acc overflow works under normal circumstances.

    Does the auto-hit Torpedo Spread get overflow? If it doesn't then the auto-hit BFAW shouldn't either. BFAW and TS aren't normal circumstances, they can't miss.

    15:12:12:18:27:13.0::Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:13.7::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:13.9::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:16.0::Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:16.4::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:17.1::h2o,P[3297369@5353877 h2o@h2o4dp],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Disruptor Beam Array - Fire at Will II,Pn.9yzzrm,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:28.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.8::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.9::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:30.3::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:31.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41665 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:32.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41665 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:32.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41653 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:01.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41663 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:18.3::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41745 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R3_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:18.5::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41745 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R3_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:24.4::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41663 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:26.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Icarus Class Escort,C[41720 Space_Federation_Escort_Pilot_Sci_Distress],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:26.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:27.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Scorpion Fighter,C[41642 Space_Scorpion_Fighter_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:28.0::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Krenim Heavy Raider,C[41651 Space_Krenim_Frigate_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:30.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Scorpion Fighter,C[41642 Space_Scorpion_Fighter_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:31.7::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:32.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Nimbus Pirate Distress Call,C[41749 Space_Nimbus_Pirate_Distress_4],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:32.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Thofir,P[4052425@3340893 Thofir@Happymortal],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:33.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0


    That's all the FAW misses in my last ISA.

    The one beam that's firing at your selected target and is the only one subject to an acc check doesn't count. The additional BFAW-only beams are atuo-hit.
    This is my Risian Corvette. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Faw not getting accuracy overflow isn't a bug with faw since this seems to be the case with all weapons. I think listing a general weapons bug as a faw bug is disingenuous to say the least.

    Acc overflow works under normal circumstances.

    Does the auto-hit Torpedo Spread get overflow? If it doesn't then the auto-hit BFAW shouldn't either. BFAW and TS aren't normal circumstances, they can't miss.

    15:12:12:18:27:13.0::Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:13.7::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:13.9::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:16.0::Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:16.4::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:17.1::h2o,P[3297369@5353877 h2o@h2o4dp],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Disruptor Beam Array - Fire at Will II,Pn.9yzzrm,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:28.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.8::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.9::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:30.3::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:31.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41665 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:32.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41665 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:32.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41653 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:01.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41663 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:18.3::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41745 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R3_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:18.5::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41745 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R3_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:24.4::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41663 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:26.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Icarus Class Escort,C[41720 Space_Federation_Escort_Pilot_Sci_Distress],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:26.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:27.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Scorpion Fighter,C[41642 Space_Scorpion_Fighter_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:28.0::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Krenim Heavy Raider,C[41651 Space_Krenim_Frigate_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:30.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Scorpion Fighter,C[41642 Space_Scorpion_Fighter_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:31.7::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:32.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Nimbus Pirate Distress Call,C[41749 Space_Nimbus_Pirate_Distress_4],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:32.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Thofir,P[4052425@3340893 Thofir@Happymortal],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:33.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0


    That's all the FAW misses in my last ISA.

    The one beam that's firing at your selected target and is the only one subject to an acc check doesn't count. The additional BFAW-only beams are atuo-hit.

    Let me assure you I wasn't manually targeting that Heavy Plasma Torpedo. The gateway wasn't targeting pets, either.
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  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Faw not getting accuracy overflow isn't a bug with faw since this seems to be the case with all weapons. I think listing a general weapons bug as a faw bug is disingenuous to say the least.

    Acc overflow works under normal circumstances.

    Does the auto-hit Torpedo Spread get overflow? If it doesn't then the auto-hit BFAW shouldn't either. BFAW and TS aren't normal circumstances, they can't miss.

    15:12:12:18:27:13.0::Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:13.7::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:13.9::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:16.0::Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:16.4::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:17.1::h2o,P[3297369@5353877 h2o@h2o4dp],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Disruptor Beam Array - Fire at Will II,Pn.9yzzrm,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:28.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.8::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.9::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:30.3::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:31.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41665 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:32.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41665 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:32.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41653 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:01.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41663 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:18.3::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41745 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R3_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:18.5::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41745 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R3_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:24.4::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41663 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:26.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Icarus Class Escort,C[41720 Space_Federation_Escort_Pilot_Sci_Distress],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:26.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:27.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Scorpion Fighter,C[41642 Space_Scorpion_Fighter_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:28.0::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Krenim Heavy Raider,C[41651 Space_Krenim_Frigate_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:30.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Scorpion Fighter,C[41642 Space_Scorpion_Fighter_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:31.7::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:32.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Nimbus Pirate Distress Call,C[41749 Space_Nimbus_Pirate_Distress_4],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:32.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Thofir,P[4052425@3340893 Thofir@Happymortal],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:33.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0


    That's all the FAW misses in my last ISA.

    The one beam that's firing at your selected target and is the only one subject to an acc check doesn't count. The additional BFAW-only beams are atuo-hit.

    Let me assure you I wasn't manually targeting that Heavy Plasma Torpedo. The gateway wasn't targeting pets, either.

    Have you thought about investing in some [acc] mods then? Doesn't take much to get 99.9% hit rates.

    Less snarky this is what Cryptic documentation gets you, outdated, obsolete, or just plain wrong intel as when I started some guide or another said only the one targeted beam can miss. But if you're whiffing that much you wouldn't have acc overflow anyways.
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  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Faw not getting accuracy overflow isn't a bug with faw since this seems to be the case with all weapons. I think listing a general weapons bug as a faw bug is disingenuous to say the least.

    Acc overflow works under normal circumstances.

    Does the auto-hit Torpedo Spread get overflow? If it doesn't then the auto-hit BFAW shouldn't either. BFAW and TS aren't normal circumstances, they can't miss.

    15:12:12:18:27:13.0::Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:13.7::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:13.9::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:16.0::Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:16.4::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:17.1::h2o,P[3297369@5353877 h2o@h2o4dp],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Disruptor Beam Array - Fire at Will II,Pn.9yzzrm,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:28.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.8::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.9::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:30.3::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:31.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41665 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:32.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41665 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:32.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41653 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:01.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41663 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:18.3::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41745 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R3_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:18.5::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41745 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R3_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:24.4::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41663 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:26.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Icarus Class Escort,C[41720 Space_Federation_Escort_Pilot_Sci_Distress],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:26.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:27.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Scorpion Fighter,C[41642 Space_Scorpion_Fighter_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:28.0::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Krenim Heavy Raider,C[41651 Space_Krenim_Frigate_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:30.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Scorpion Fighter,C[41642 Space_Scorpion_Fighter_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:31.7::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:32.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Nimbus Pirate Distress Call,C[41749 Space_Nimbus_Pirate_Distress_4],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:32.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Thofir,P[4052425@3340893 Thofir@Happymortal],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:33.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0


    That's all the FAW misses in my last ISA.

    The one beam that's firing at your selected target and is the only one subject to an acc check doesn't count. The additional BFAW-only beams are atuo-hit.

    Let me assure you I wasn't manually targeting that Heavy Plasma Torpedo. The gateway wasn't targeting pets, either.

    Have you thought about investing in some [acc] mods then? Doesn't take much to get 99.9% hit rates.

    I'm happy enough with a 99.7% hit rate, and adding extra accuracy wouldn't do much to bump that up, certainly not compared to the dps I'd lose with Acc mods. That's not the point. The point is, FAW should benefit from accuracy overflow and doesn't.
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  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Faw not getting accuracy overflow isn't a bug with faw since this seems to be the case with all weapons. I think listing a general weapons bug as a faw bug is disingenuous to say the least.

    Acc overflow works under normal circumstances.

    Does the auto-hit Torpedo Spread get overflow? If it doesn't then the auto-hit BFAW shouldn't either. BFAW and TS aren't normal circumstances, they can't miss.

    15:12:12:18:27:13.0::Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:13.7::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:13.9::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41629 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:16.0::Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:16.4::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:17.1::h2o,P[3297369@5353877 h2o@h2o4dp],,*,Sphere,C[41627 Space_Borg_Cruiser_Raidisode],Disruptor Beam Array - Fire at Will II,Pn.9yzzrm,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:28.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Atem,P[1763435@4194067 Atem@iusasset],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.8::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:29.9::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:30.3::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41685 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R2_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:31.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41665 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:32.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41665 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:27:32.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41653 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:01.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41663 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:18.3::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41745 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R3_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:18.5::Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],,*,Heavy Plasma Torpedo,C[41745 Plasma_Torpedo_Highyield_R3_Borg],Antiproton Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.P00v8e1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:24.4::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Romulan Drone Ship,C[41663 Space_Romulan_Drone_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:26.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Icarus Class Escort,C[41720 Space_Federation_Escort_Pilot_Sci_Distress],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:26.2::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:27.3::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Scorpion Fighter,C[41642 Space_Scorpion_Fighter_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:28.0::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Krenim Heavy Raider,C[41651 Space_Krenim_Frigate_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:30.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Elite Scorpion Fighter,C[41642 Space_Scorpion_Fighter_Player_Carrier_Pet_3],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:31.7::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:32.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Nimbus Pirate Distress Call,C[41749 Space_Nimbus_Pirate_Distress_4],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:32.6::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Thofir,P[4052425@3340893 Thofir@Happymortal],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0
    15:12:12:18:28:33.5::Gateway,C[41641 Mission_Borgraid1_Transwarp_02],,*,Vel,P[6125801@10343987 Vel@jarvisandalfred],Plasma Beam Array - Fire at Will III,Pn.Vav8kr1,,Miss,0,0


    That's all the FAW misses in my last ISA.

    The one beam that's firing at your selected target and is the only one subject to an acc check doesn't count. The additional BFAW-only beams are atuo-hit.

    Let me assure you I wasn't manually targeting that Heavy Plasma Torpedo. The gateway wasn't targeting pets, either.

    Have you thought about investing in some [acc] mods then? Doesn't take much to get 99.9% hit rates.

    I'm happy enough with a 99.7% hit rate, and adding extra accuracy wouldn't do much to bump that up, certainly not compared to the dps I'd lose with Acc mods. That's not the point. The point is, FAW should benefit from accuracy overflow and doesn't.

    And yet it rocks the socks off every other non-KLW skill.
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  • darkknightucfdarkknightucf Member Posts: 1,546 Media Corps
    FaW benefits more from KLW than torpedoes.

    I wish I was joking....

    PS: Torpedo Spread doesn't benefit from ACC overflow, and many heavy torps don't benefit from Acc at all. You've seen this first hand, @jarvisandalfred |=)
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  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    FaW benefits more from KLW than torpedoes.

    I wish I was joking....

    PS: Torpedo Spread doesn't benefit from ACC overflow, and many heavy torps don't benefit from Acc at all. You've seen this first hand, @jarvisandalfred |=)

    Oh, I'm sorry, is the dude at the top of the HSE/CCA tables complaing that torpedoes suck still? Wine harder! ;)

    Congrats on that BTW, I didn't realize you'd done 130k in CCA and HSE since the fixes.

    Looks like that CCA was a pug, even. STT was 7.5k that run, which seems like a pretty nice bonus - or worth clicking at least. ;)
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  • zero2362zero2362 Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    CCA has a ton on unshielded targets. Torps have a massive edge there as they dont need to wory about there biggest wweakness, shields
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  • allocaterallocater Member Posts: 289 Arc User
    FAW is so amazing, it allows me to clear ISA in 69 seconds, thank you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5sY8flnW2w
  • darkknightucfdarkknightucf Member Posts: 1,546 Media Corps
    edited December 2015
    FaW benefits more from KLW than torpedoes.

    I wish I was joking....

    PS: Torpedo Spread doesn't benefit from ACC overflow, and many heavy torps don't benefit from Acc at all. You've seen this first hand, @jarvisandalfred |=)

    Oh, I'm sorry, is the dude at the top of the HSE/CCA tables complaing that torpedoes suck still? Wine harder! ;)

    Congrats on that BTW, I didn't realize you'd done 130k in CCA and HSE since the fixes.

    Looks like that CCA was a pug, even. STT was 7.5k that run, which seems like a pretty nice bonus - or worth clicking at least. ;)

    I can complain if something isn't working right. What I do as a personal achievement is irrelevant to something not working properly (there's social implications to that as well, but...)

    Thanks. I see you slammed the Engineering tables. Now, we need to do a HSE run and show off your Valdore console ;) Seriously, though, it's been a long minute since we did a run.

    BTW, STT doing 7.5K out of a 130K+ run... yea.... it looks that good because the run was so short. For a 3pc click power, it's meh. IsoK and the torpedo console from the T6 Escorts hit harder. FYI, see my KLW contribution? Care to go through the log and see where those sources came from, because it's not from all my torps (which was the main point of the discussion).

    Remind me, what do plasma explosions do for FaW users in high DPS runs? Oh, and KLW, too ;)

    PS: Q .. Q

    Extra salt just for you.
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    I thought this was a parody thread

    looks like people got all cereal up in here :|
  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    I thought this was a parody thread

    looks like people got all cereal up in here :|

    With the redirect nonsense tabs don't show the thread title anymore.

    But this just shows how much everyone loves BFAW despite it being so underpowered by not getting its acc overflow damage!
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  • darkknightucfdarkknightucf Member Posts: 1,546 Media Corps
    Oh just you wait until this week's episode of The SHOW.... BFAW gets it's due...
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    Oh just you wait until this week's episode of The SHOW.... BFAW gets it's due...

    sounds awesome!
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    How sad, another nerf a useful power thread.

    Will they nerf the Iconian cheat spam as well which this power is useful for?

    Be careful what you wish for.
  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    FaW benefits more from KLW than torpedoes.

    I wish I was joking....

    PS: Torpedo Spread doesn't benefit from ACC overflow, and many heavy torps don't benefit from Acc at all. You've seen this first hand, @jarvisandalfred |=)

    Oh, I'm sorry, is the dude at the top of the HSE/CCA tables complaing that torpedoes suck still? Wine harder! ;)

    Congrats on that BTW, I didn't realize you'd done 130k in CCA and HSE since the fixes.

    Looks like that CCA was a pug, even. STT was 7.5k that run, which seems like a pretty nice bonus - or worth clicking at least. ;)

    I can complain if something isn't working right. What I do as a personal achievement is irrelevant to something not working properly (there's social implications to that as well, but...)

    Thanks. I see you slammed the Engineering tables. Now, we need to do a HSE run and show off your Valdore console ;) Seriously, though, it's been a long minute since we did a run.

    BTW, STT doing 7.5K out of a 130K+ run... yea.... it looks that good because the run was so short. For a 3pc click power, it's meh. IsoK and the torpedo console from the T6 Escorts hit harder. FYI, see my KLW contribution? Care to go through the log and see where those sources came from, because it's not from all my torps (which was the main point of the discussion).

    Remind me, what do plasma explosions do for FaW users in high DPS runs? Oh, and KLW, too ;)

    PS: Q .. Q

    Extra salt just for you.

    Yeah, yeah. I could be mistaken, but I thought TS was actually an auto-hit ability, and it shouldn't benefit from Acc Overflow. I could be totally off on that, so if you've got logs where it misses, yell at me for that.

    Been a while since we've flown, yeah. We should fix that.

    Plasma explosions... Yeah, I know how much Pepper loves getting 10k total from 4 consoles.

    KLW... gotta love it.
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    kerygan wrote: »
    i dare you to make signatures with how much you love FAW . I have this ability on all characters and ships. Even my cat has MAW (the kitty version of FAW)

    Challenge Accepted!
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    Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
  • risingwolfshadowrisingwolfshadow Member Posts: 619 Arc User
    Erm why are PvErs complaining about BFAW? This is the kind of game you wanted isn't it? Why complain now?
    What's the point?
    Should I start laughing at the irony now?
    Should I get some popcorn too?
  • kavasekavase Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    Now if only we could use more than one FAW at once and double or triple or quadruple the damage it provides!

    Buahahaha!

    I pretty much used FAW from day 1.
    Retired. I'm now in search for that perfect space anomaly.
  • meathook2099meathook2099 Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    Erm why are PvErs complaining about BFAW? This is the kind of game you wanted isn't it? Why complain now?
    What's the point?
    Should I start laughing at the irony now?
    Should I get some popcorn too?

    I don't think that it's PVEers complaining. ;)

  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    Erm why are PvErs complaining about BFAW? This is the kind of game you wanted isn't it? Why complain now?
    What's the point?
    Should I start laughing at the irony now?
    Should I get some popcorn too?

    I don't think that it's PVEers complaining. ;)

    You couldn't pay me enough to PvP and I think BFAW is broken, and not just because it doesn't get its acc overflow.
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