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Bring Back Snow Pile Digging For Epohh Tags

thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
This used to be a fun quick way for casual players to get tags and materials.

I understand the greed.. er reason for removing it, but it's Christmas, How about a little of that spirit here?

Also why is my avatar not showing all of a sudden!?
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    Nice post, insult cryptic at the same time as asking for something. Atleast you didn't claim a disability and use it as a way to get Cryptic to give you free stuff.
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  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    No thanks. When we could get holiday commodities and epohh tags from snow piles a lot of players set up macros to make their characters automatically dig the piles non-stop day in, day out.
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    No thanks. When we could get holiday commodities and epohh tags from snow piles a lot of players set up macros to make their characters automatically dig the piles non-stop day in, day out.

    Perhaps offer the option to do Tide of Ice or Cones of Conduct for tags? You could select between a box of tags and ornaments.

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  • painfullylargepainfullylarge Member Posts: 174 Arc User
    I concur with above. I have ZERO incentive to do cones. Offering tags for it would be a start. Accolades would help too. PVP racing is just annoying anymore. The game doesn't generate enough zones automatically, so even with zone switching--you get stuck with some cracked-out macro-using freak who is bunny hopping his way to victory with undine gear.
  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    gulberat wrote: »
    No thanks. When we could get holiday commodities and epohh tags from snow piles a lot of players set up macros to make their characters automatically dig the piles non-stop day in, day out.

    Perhaps offer the option to do Tide of Ice or Cones of Conduct for tags? You could select between a box of tags and ornaments.

    I like the idea. It would be like marks when completing various PvE queued events. A window will pop up where you need to select what you want. If you don't make a selection for 5 minutes then the game will select a random reward for you.

    But how many epohh tags would you get? Perhaps 2-4 tags per event.

    The downside is that it would make the PvP race pointless and a lot less people would be doing it since a lot of us have more holiday commodities then we need. Also you can trade 5 epohh tags to the GPL conversion unit in the wonderland map to get some GPL, so making the tags more easily obtainable is another thing to consider.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,901 Arc User
    Another way to get tags would be nice, but bot farming shouldn't be it.
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  • rezkingrezking Member Posts: 1,109 Arc User
    This used to be a fun quick way for casual players to get tags and materials.

    I understand the greed.. er reason for removing it, but it's Christmas, How about a little of that spirit here?

    Also why is my avatar not showing all of a sudden!?

    I need tags more than mats.
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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    Honestly, I'm more upset that I have to go through essentially two cycles of Slow and slippery... I mean fast and flurrious, just to get one day's worth of tags...

    And, of course, this comes with the caveat that I not TRIBBLE up / get lagged out...

    Slapping them into Cones or upping the "place" prize to 3 per race would be sweet...
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  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    I didn't realise we could get those tags by digging in the snow. I remember I got some bolian candles and terran holiday ornaments this way but I don't think I ever saw an Eppoh tag.

    Snow digging for those currencies wasn't available last year, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't available the year before. So it's probably three years ago that it was available and both New Romulus and Eppoh's didn't even exist back then.
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    Besides, the drop rate was very low anyway. You were often digging for at least a minute and you'd get only 1 currency at a time IIRC. For the 'casual' player, it may be more worth it to slot some Doff assignments or participate in a snowball fight since those things generally take much less time.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    They did give the option to trade Lohlunats for bird eggs, so an option for winter trinkets converting to tags seems reasonable. probably something like 10 of everything though. :p
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  • bernatkbernatk Member Posts: 1,089 Bug Hunter
    They did give the option to trade Lohlunats for bird eggs, so an option for winter trinkets converting to tags seems reasonable. probably something like 10 of everything though. :p

    Bird eggs are bird eggs. But tropical tags can only be earned thru powerboard racing. Consolation prize is 2 tags just like in the competitive race.
    1 race is over 1 min. What's the problem...
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    bernatk wrote: »
    They did give the option to trade Lohlunats for bird eggs, so an option for winter trinkets converting to tags seems reasonable. probably something like 10 of everything though. :p

    Bird eggs are bird eggs. But tropical tags can only be earned thru powerboard racing. Consolation prize is 2 tags just like in the competitive race.
    1 race is over 1 min. What's the problem...

    The common answer to the problem is the race is to hard for some people.
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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    at least with the PvP race you don't have to win, you get enough tags to raise your epohh in just 3 races a day even if you come last providing you don't go out of bounds, so its easy to get your daily reward without needing to win, its a pity the same cant be said about the PvE race.

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  • alexvio1alexvio1 Member Posts: 389 Arc User
    No thanks. When we could get holiday commodities and epohh tags from snow piles a lot of players set up macros to make their characters automatically dig the piles non-stop day in, day out.
    After they changed the melting time from 10 min to 1 hour, macros became very uneffective because your inventory was very fast filled with snowballs. They removed tags from piles because they wanted reduce tags generation. In addition to that they reduced number of races per hour and have added the feature that close 0 people instances.
  • rezkingrezking Member Posts: 1,109 Arc User
    at least with the PvP race you don't have to win, you get enough tags to raise your epohh in just 3 races a day even if you come last providing you don't go out of bounds, so its easy to get your daily reward without needing to win, its a pity the same cant be said about the PvE race.

    3 FatF races = 3 hours.
    That's the problem.
    3 toons x 3 hours = 9 hours.
    It is not Alt friendly.
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    It's not much fun coming in LAST all the time either.
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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    rezking wrote: »
    at least with the PvP race you don't have to win, you get enough tags to raise your epohh in just 3 races a day even if you come last providing you don't go out of bounds, so its easy to get your daily reward without needing to win, its a pity the same cant be said about the PvE race.

    3 FatF races = 3 hours.
    That's the problem.
    3 toons x 3 hours = 9 hours.
    It is not Alt friendly.

    there are actually 2 races an hour so in 2 hours you can gain 8 tags, so for 2 hours on the first day and 1 hour on the second day you get the 12 tags you need to raise epohh over the 2 days.
    you can also take part in the other games while you are waiting for your next race to fill out the time and gain some winter items in the process.
    sure its not great for alts but what in this game is, even if the only thing you do is doff missions you need to multiply the time it takes by the amount of characters you have.
    and how is digging in snow piles going to be any different, you will still have to dig until you have enough tags and then repeat the proses on your alts so your not saving vast amounts of time there anyway plus the time it takes to keep clearing your inventory if you don't have much space.
    at the end of the day digging snow piles was as boring as hell and you could still end up digging for an hour before you got the 6 tags you needed for that day.
    at least with the race its over quick leaving you free to do more fun stuff in between.
    now they have added that handy itinerary that tells you whats happening over the next hour its simple to plan your time and be where you need to be for the next thing happening.
    it would be sweet if you could trade some winter items for tags but don't forget you would need to get the required quantity and type of winter items before you could trade them and that takes time as well.
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  • maddscottmaddscott Member Posts: 149 Arc User
    rezking wrote: »
    at least with the PvP race you don't have to win, you get enough tags to raise your epohh in just 3 races a day even if you come last providing you don't go out of bounds, so its easy to get your daily reward without needing to win, its a pity the same cant be said about the PvE race.

    3 FatF races = 3 hours.
    That's the problem.
    3 toons x 3 hours = 9 hours.
    It is not Alt friendly.

    A some one else stated, 3 hours = 6 races.. In case you forgot, the F&F PvP race is at + :30 and :37. Completing the race will give you 2 Taggs per race; so there's the 12 Taggs for 2 Epohh research daily jobs..

    Your comment about "It is not Alt friendly." Well, I run 9 toons daily. We made the alts, we run the alts. It's not Cryptic's responsibility to make sure the "player" can run any given number of characters thru the events. It's the Players responsibility.

    "ALT FRIENDLY" - The T6 Ships, in the events are NOW Account unlock.. ONE toon can unlock that T6 ship or other event special reward regardless of how many "alts" you have. I really appreciate and thank Cryptic for the change to "Account" unlock.

    The most important item, the T6 ship, is account unlock. Raising "Alt Friendly" issues because an event is to difficult to win, or "Bunny Hoppers' using exploits, for basically a "Vanity Pet", IMHO, is a personal issue; not a Cryptic issue.

    Having and running Alts thru events, is our choice. Not Cryptics issue to deal with. imho..
  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    As someone who is raising daily eppoh for 6 characters for the entire event I can tell you, you must win quite a bit of races or you will be very sad. Luckily, unlike the summer event (until next year, thanks Marty!), this doesn't require best snowboard to win.
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    @capnkirk4 It's not JUST about me not being great at the race. I am also tired of not getting enough people in Tide of Ice to mount a strong defense. Offering that as an option for epohh tags might draw a few more people in there per run. ;)

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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    I do like the idea of adding the tags maybe as a random drop from tides and cones maybe based on some sort of performance as well. I doubt it will happen, however. There seems to be a strong desire to encourage the pvp race. And hey, it is pvp for STO right? Thriving in winter and in summer.
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  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    As someone who is raising daily eppoh for 6 characters for the entire event I can tell you, you must win quite a bit of races or you will be very sad. Luckily, unlike the summer event (until next year, thanks Marty!), this doesn't require best snowboard to win.

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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    rezking wrote: »
    at least with the PvP race you don't have to win, you get enough tags to raise your epohh in just 3 races a day even if you come last providing you don't go out of bounds, so its easy to get your daily reward without needing to win, its a pity the same cant be said about the PvE race.

    3 FatF races = 3 hours.
    That's the problem.
    3 toons x 3 hours = 9 hours.
    It is not Alt friendly.

    You want to collect stupid epohhs on alts, thats your problem.
  • thraexisthraexis Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    Would be nice if they added the tags as a random drop
    when killing some of the snowmen. I hate doing that pvp
    race.
  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    Put some tags on them and people might start doing that tower defense event people seem to have abandoned, people might still do cones but this is because cones is paying too well.

    Cones isn't paying too well the rewards for everything else are pathetic.

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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    burstorion wrote: »

    -Cue a dev hastily designing a gold+ coloured hyper advanced board for 50,000 lolnuts with a 99 speed and turn stat, let alone autopilot-​​

    I think we will see an epic board next year. But it's still an improvement to be 1 level below rather than 2.
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