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Cones of Conduct: Who are the Good Guys?

isthisscienceisthisscience Member Posts: 863 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Soooo... the gingerbread people built their new town not only on snowmen territory, but land that is sacred to them. And we are helping the gingerbread people...why? Well I get that there is "no reasoning with the snow overlord!" and that they are enraged. I would be. I'm with the snowmen on this one. It's time to kick the neo-imperialist colonialist gingerbread off the innocent snowmen's sacred land. Is it not bad enough that their numbers have been assimilated by the borg then slaughtered by us? How do I join the snowmen's side of this? Can we start a boycott of gingerbread land produce? FREE SNOWLAND!
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    I admit it took me aback too, but I just figured it out.

    The gingerbread people are the Kobali and the snowmen are the Vaadwaur.

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  • theillusivenmantheillusivenman Member Posts: 438 Arc User
    The gingerbread people are the Kobali

    Ugh, the thought..no more gingerbread cookies for meh :s



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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    SOYLENT GINGERBREAD IS PEOPLE!!!

    You're welcome. >:)

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  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    I'm with you. FREE SNOWBET
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,661 Arc User
    Good, bad, I'm the man with the gumdrop gun.

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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,488 Arc User
    To be honest, who cares. Kill em all and sort em out later.​​
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    What I know for sure is that the Epohh lady is behind this conflict and we're her pawns.
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    @saurializard: She's Sela! Make her targetable immediately!

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  • yukonsamyukonsam Member Posts: 103 Arc User
    Q is just waiting for somebody to unravel the grand secret of the Winter Wonderland so he can pat them on the head, give them a cookie, and declare them his new favorite. Sadly, we're all too engrossed in mass snow creature slaughter for personal profit to solve the puzzle, and the Doffs we assign to uncover his motives just bring us more earmuffs and ornaments.

    It's just like Riverworld. Only colder.
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  • captainfelidaecaptainfelidae Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    Obviously the the Orion gingerbread women is affecting our minds with her pheromones fresh-baked scent, And making us act against our will?
  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    @ Trendy: LOL
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    yukonsam wrote: »
    Q is just waiting for somebody to unravel the grand secret of the Winter Wonderland so he can pat them on the head, give them a cookie, and declare them his new favorite. Sadly, we're all too engrossed in mass snow creature slaughter for personal profit to solve the puzzle, and the Doffs we assign to uncover his motives just bring us more earmuffs and ornaments.

    It's just like Riverworld. Only colder.

    The truth is probably that Q just created us for the sake of the ginger bread people, because he has a sweet tooth.
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    when will we get the Cones of Dunshire?
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    If it was JUST that the land was sacred to the snowmen, it doesn't matter what the snowmen do, if they don't own the land, the gingerbreads would be entitled to it. Anything being "sacred" to Group X should have zero effect on Group Y, and it would be wrong for Group X to take action against Group Y for not observing that "sacred" status, period.

    But the only important thing here is that the snowmen have already claimed ownership to the land in which the gingerbreads build their home on. The only thing we have to look at is ownership, not sacredness in any way.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    orangeitis wrote: »
    If it was JUST that the land was sacred to the snowmen, it doesn't matter what the snowmen do, if they don't own the land, the gingerbreads would be entitled to it. Anything being "sacred" to Group X should have zero effect on Group Y, and it would be wrong for Group X to take action against Group Y for not observing that "sacred" status, period.

    But the only important thing here is that the snowmen have already claimed ownership to the land in which the gingerbreads build their home on. The only thing we have to look at is ownership, not sacredness in any way.

    Yep, yet another situation where the Alliance jumped in on the side of the cuter folks without bothering to actually study who was in the wrong. Boycotting the queue for premature Prime Directive violation in the first degree.
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  • bioixibioixi Member Posts: 764 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    I don't care, I'm just a mercenary, as long as those gingerbread men keep the ornaments coming I'll keep putting gumdrop in those snowbrains.
  • jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    Not everything is as simple as brown and white.
    Perceptions of good and evil are merely illusions.
    Welcome to Q's winter wonderland.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    edited December 2015
    i don't care, because trying to apply politics or morality to a faux-war set in a pocket dimension created by a godlike being between animated cookiees and snow is so far beyond idiotic as to be utterly contemptible​​
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  • kylethetruekylethetrue Member Posts: 205 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    It's like a cheerful, snow covered Israel/Palestine conflict....
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    i don't care, because trying to apply politics or morality to a faux-war set in a pocket dimension created by a godlike being between animated cookiees and snow is so far beyond idiotic as to be utterly contemptible​​

    At least when the real Q trolled the cast, he usually had something he was actually trying to accomplish instead of just sitting there wasting everybody's time (and forcing us to interact with Neelix).
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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    starswordc wrote: »
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    i don't care, because trying to apply politics or morality to a faux-war set in a pocket dimension created by a godlike being between animated cookiees and snow is so far beyond idiotic as to be utterly contemptible​​

    At least when the real Q trolled the cast, he usually had something he was actually trying to accomplish instead of just sitting there wasting everybody's time (and forcing us to interact with Neelix).

    Your Neelix hate is even more irrational than the Klingon hate I must say.
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  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    starswordc wrote: »
    orangeitis wrote: »
    If it was JUST that the land was sacred to the snowmen, it doesn't matter what the snowmen do, if they don't own the land, the gingerbreads would be entitled to it. Anything being "sacred" to Group X should have zero effect on Group Y, and it would be wrong for Group X to take action against Group Y for not observing that "sacred" status, period.

    But the only important thing here is that the snowmen have already claimed ownership to the land in which the gingerbreads build their home on. The only thing we have to look at is ownership, not sacredness in any way.

    Yep, yet another situation where the Alliance jumped in on the side of the cuter folks without bothering to actually study who was in the wrong. Boycotting the queue for premature Prime Directive violation in the first degree.

    Neither this, nor what you quoted, make a lick of sense. Q owns this land, and created the beings on it. Nobody else's claims matter. For that matter, the Alliance isn't directing things here. If you have any orders at all from higher up in regard to figments of Q's imagination, it's to play along and hopefully get him to leave. It's Q that's calling the shots here. Oh, and Cones of Conduct also isn't a queue, it's open-world, just for nitpicking's sake.

    Putting that aside, even. Snowmen have been invading the old Gingerbread village for years now. They drew first ...frosting, I suppose. It doesn't make the Gingerbread people justified in taking this land that has some significance to the Snow people, but both sides have now done aggressive things to the other, so the scales are more or less balanced at this point, with the exception being that we don't know that the building of this new village caused any bodily harm to living Snowmen, while they were clearly harming Gingerbread people in their old village. Oh, and Both sides have a touch of Kobali in them by practice. Snowmen rebuild their forces by infecting the normal (?) snow in the area, while Gingerbread people use remnants of the Snowmen as a major component of the Snow-conian. Both doing deplorable things with inanimate stuff. The horror!
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    I feel the need to point out that the snowmen want to exterminate the gingerbread men in general, so whether that area is "sacred' or not makes no difference.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    If you guys haven't noticed, the Alliance is a bloodthirsty, warmongering conglomeration of multiple quadrant death dealing mass murderers. And the Klingons aren't even in charge B)
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  • ayradyssayradyss Member Posts: 187 Arc User
    Hmm. Given that it's all an 'artificial' ecosystem created by Q for his/our entertainment, I think some folks may be overthinking this -- just a little.
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  • gerwalk0769gerwalk0769 Member Posts: 1,095 Arc User
    isthisscience wrote: »
    Soooo... the gingerbread people built their new town not only on snowmen territory, but land that is sacred to them. And we are helping the gingerbread people...why? Well I get that there is "no reasoning with the snow overlord!" and that they are enraged. I would be. I'm with the snowmen on this one. It's time to kick the neo-imperialist colonialist gingerbread off the innocent snowmen's sacred land. Is it not bad enough that their numbers have been assimilated by the borg then slaughtered by us? How do I join the snowmen's side of this? Can we start a boycott of gingerbread land produce? FREE SNOWLAND!

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    newplayerguy7 wrote: »
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    i don't care, because trying to apply politics or morality to a faux-war set in a pocket dimension created by a godlike being between animated cookiees and snow is so far beyond idiotic as to be utterly contemptible​​
    Remember we're still on trial...

    Will we throw aside our morals and much touted beliefs simply for a few bobbles? You bet we will! Let the slaughter commence!

    Q is delighting in our ineptitude. Jean Luc where for art thou?? :'(
    Also... it's Q jr. Sr. was the one who did the trial thing.
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