honestly since cryptic now have everyone flying around in Iconian dreadnoughts now ( folks will be very soon) i have finally just thrown in the towel and said " F-it " to "balance" and "power creep" "Power leap" its just way past point of no return and the majority of folks just play PvE anyway cause PvP is probably never going to get a glance at ever again so why the hell not for a T6 Scim
honestly... the scimitard doesnt need a t6 makeover... greed will make it happen but I can also hope the physical server for STO explodes that day so players don't have to put up with it and I can watch the forums burn in flames from all the people that pre-ordered it demanding cryptic fix the game so they can pew pew pvpeen
I'm with you on this one, i hope a T6 simitar when releases causes sto to crash and burn, the T5u scim is already an "I win" button.
Don't you guys get bored mashing spacebar without any thought?
It's just too OP already and people want a T6 version? (If you answer yes, your a bad player and should feel bad).
I hope we don't see a T6 Schim, for a very long time, preferably, right before the game shuts down.
You got the best ship in the game DPS wise, and you want more ??
What ? Is the full compliment of SRO boffs not enough for you ? On top of everything else ?
Also, as hard as it may be to believe, there are people that don't fly it in a min/maxed DPS build. There are people that liked the ship in the movie and like the way it looks.
I'm seeing a ton of other ships that parse ridiculously high and make a joke of ISA, yet it is the Scimitar that apparently is OP and some people want to see that ship line vanish as if it would solve the power selling and power creep and huge disparity in DPS.
Parroting childish insults towards a ship line just damages one's credibility.
Yes there are those like myself and another fleet member that do like the looks of the ships, that use cannon builds with torps, make use of the thalaron pulse and consoles despite feeling gimmicky (no thanks to DR), enjoy the challenge of a large dreadnought with high inertia, slow turn rates, and low innate damage resistance, and still have a lot more fun flying them over many other ships while still being very effective.
Odyssey was hinted at, and so by definition look forward to the Romulan flagship as well.
Looking foward to a T6 Dhelan to see what that offers, i feel alone in that
you are not alone, I would like to see also a T6 Dhelan . I still use the fleet T5-U (disruptor cannons build), and I like it very much. this ship can be very powerful and at the same time a little tank, + the dhelan is very nice, one of my favourite Cryptic design.
a T6 scimitar that does similar to what the original scimitar could perform
i will be trying to match the scimitar's abilities to what it performed in the movie only with a STO twist
any thought on this would be apprieciated
before I detail the ship on its stats, i would like to state that a thalaron pulse as an inbuilt ability would be a must
so without further or do here is my ship for a T6 scimitar plus a T6 starship trait
5 fwd/3 aft weapon slots (for consistancy)
+10 to weapons
+5 to engines and aux
boff slots
commander tactical
lt commander engineering/pilot (the scimitar in the movie was way to manouverable compared to what the T5 version does, to keep it looking consistant some pilot abilities would suit this slot well making the scimitar all that more manouverable)
lt commander universal (for flexibility) :P
lt science
ensign tactical/command (for that little bit of pizazz and damage)
starship mastery (same as T5 scimitar only with T6 trait)
thalaron pulse now deals a base 30,000 radiation damage and is built in
T6 trait thalaron emitters - all energy weapons now have a 1-30% chance to deal radiation damage to the target (ignores shields), and a 20%-50% on torpedoes (ignores shields), this is based off of your auxiliary power (60 aux power giving highest proc and damage possible) delt as DoT. This radiation cannot be cleansed by hazard emitters.
scimitar 3 piece set instead of thalaron pulse now does the following only on T6 varient: (2 piece remains the same)
50% crit severity
10% crit chance
20 resistance rating to radiation and kinetic damage
25% flight turn rate and strength and speed
shields hardness doubles and shield modifier is 1.2
energy weapons now deal 20% shield penetrating damage above 110 weapon power and have a 1% chance to deal 1000 radiation damage to the target.
The scimitar can now use partial cloak coverage causing 50% accuracy penalty to enemies
(the scimitar was way to durable for the enterprise to defeat doubling the shield hardness and capacity felt necessary, as for the crits the scimitar could deal massive damage to the 3 ships it fought and took minimal repercussions, hence the 20 resistance to radiation and kinetic damage. it was also very agile, i also felt that giving the 3 piece set the ability to decloak parts of the ship (demonstrated in the movie) would make it more accurate)
Yet ANOTHER begging thread for the Scimi and boy do you want it OP! No, no, no, NO! Those stats will never happen.
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
As far as a T6 scimitar, wouldn't a "I win" button be easier?
This. The T5-U Scimitard pretty much epitomises 'I win'. Considering that, regardless of all the new shinies that have come since, a BFAW spamming Scimitard remains one of the most OP ships in the game, I don't really understand the need for a T6 version.
I honestly dread the day that a T6 version of that ridiculous OP abomination appears.
The ship isn't nearly as overpowered as some people make it out to be. Is it powerful? Yes it is.. it's the king of T5, but it's equaled and even surpassed by several T6 ships. It has some nice abilities, no doubt, but it handles like a brick suspended in liquid cement and managing power levels on it is tough even with a leech console. It's also fairly soft for a ship of it's size. A T6 won't break the game as long as the Trait is within reason, that will be the deal breaker. Those who think it's an 'I win button' haven't actually flown one. At this point in the game, the Scimitar is nothing special anymore.
On another note, as someone that does fly a Scimitar on one of my alts, I'm a little tired of your constant insults to those of us who like the ship. I generally like your posts and agree with a lot of what you say, but your bashing of Scimitar captains and the constant 'Scimitard' comments are wearing thin. You like the Nova, you don't have people piling on you for that. You take every possible chance to insult those that like the ship and frankly, it's beneath a poster of your caliber.
Some of us actually like the look of the Scimitar and enjoy flying it. You should try being less judgmental of those that enjoy the ship.
this will probably be the ONLY T6 ship I buy... using free/event ships so far. I hope they do a flagship pack and not a retread of 3 console ship pack per faction.
this will probably be the ONLY T6 ship I buy... using free/event ships so far. I hope they do a flagship pack and not a retread of 3 console ship pack per faction.
That is the big question though: how will they handle T6 versions of T5 3-packs. Another just more expensive 3-pack with slightly improved consoles ?
It will happen. Two possibilities about the details:
The T6 Scim is to T6 what the T5 Scim was to T5. Only Roms do decent damage, everybody else weeps.
The T6 Scim is only a slight update from the T5 as is par for the course for T5 to T6 upgrades and consequently won't rule the waves. Cue at least five threads complaining how it isn't worth the extra money and how from canon it should be able to one shot everything.
My mother was an epohh and my father smelled of tulaberries
a T6 scimitar that does similar to what the original scimitar could perform
i will be trying to match the scimitar's abilities to what it performed in the movie only with a STO twist
any thought on this would be appreciated
before I detail the ship on its stats, i would like to state that a thalaron pulse as an inbuilt ability would be a must
so without further or do here is my ship for a T6 scimitar plus a T6 starship trait
5 fwd/3 aft weapon slots (for consistency)
+10 to weapons
+5 to aux
boff slots
commander tactical
lt commander engineering/pilot (the scimitar in the movie was way to maneuverable compared to what the T5 version does, to keep it looking consistent some pilot abilities would suit this slot well making the scimitar all that more maneuverable)
lt commander universal (for flexibility) :P
lt science
ensign tactical/command (for that little bit of pizzazz and damage)
starship mastery (same as T5 scimitar only with T6 trait)
thalaron pulse now deals a base 30,000 radiation damage and is built in. 3 second activation, 7 second recovery (as the pulse drains all power and disables consoles).
T6 trait thalaron emitters - all energy weapons now have a 5% chance to deal radiation damage to the target (ignores shields) and 30% on torpedoes (ignores shields), this is based off of your auxiliary power (60 aux power giving highest proc and damage possible) dealt as DoT. This radiation cannot be cleansed by hazard emitters.
Hangar Bay - 2x UR T'varo BoP (Epic in Lobi store)
4x Rom Plasma Beam Arrays (Epic 5)
Cloak w/Ambush Bonus
BO2 - BFaW 2 (Epic 3)
Feedback Pulse 2 (Epic 3)
Reverse Shield Polarity 2 (Epic 3)
My 0.02ec included above.
I do get the apprehension certain players have when they read the part about approximating the movie version more.
Is a T6 Scim "OP"?
Hell yeah.
But, it should be.
It was meant to be.
This is the only ship in STO that can be legitimately OP and be justified being so.
NO to ARC RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
a T6 scimitar that does similar to what the original scimitar could perform
i will be trying to match the scimitar's abilities to what it performed in the movie only with a STO twist
any thought on this would be appreciated
before I detail the ship on its stats, i would like to state that a thalaron pulse as an inbuilt ability would be a must
so without further or do here is my ship for a T6 scimitar plus a T6 starship trait
5 fwd/3 aft weapon slots (for consistency)
+10 to weapons
+5 to aux
boff slots
commander tactical
lt commander engineering/pilot (the scimitar in the movie was way to maneuverable compared to what the T5 version does, to keep it looking consistent some pilot abilities would suit this slot well making the scimitar all that more maneuverable)
lt commander universal (for flexibility) :P
lt science
ensign tactical/command (for that little bit of pizzazz and damage)
starship mastery (same as T5 scimitar only with T6 trait)
thalaron pulse now deals a base 30,000 radiation damage and is built in. 3 second activation, 7 second recovery (as the pulse drains all power and disables consoles).
T6 trait thalaron emitters - all energy weapons now have a 5% chance to deal radiation damage to the target (ignores shields) and 30% on torpedoes (ignores shields), this is based off of your auxiliary power (60 aux power giving highest proc and damage possible) dealt as DoT. This radiation cannot be cleansed by hazard emitters.
Hangar Bay - 2x UR T'varo BoP (Epic in Lobi store)
4x Rom Plasma Beam Arrays (Epic 5)
Cloak w/Ambush Bonus
BO2 - BFaW 2 (Epic 3)
Feedback Pulse 2 (Epic 3)
Reverse Shield Polarity 2 (Epic 3)
My 0.02ec included above.
I do get the apprehension certain players have when they read the part about approximating the movie version more.
Is a T6 Scim "OP"?
Hell yeah.
But, it should be.
It was meant to be.
This is the only ship in STO that can be legitimately OP and be justified being so.
So? The Scim was beat by a Sovereign and 2 Mogai...Cubes took entire fleets to take down and that was with knowledge of their weak spot...yet people can solo Cubes in STO...so no...the Scimitar doesn't need to be the heavily WAYYYY over the top OP version the OP wants.
Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
i stopped careing about things being "OP" since folks started flying around in Iconian ships. but ill be honest, i would love to see a T6 Scim, its always been one of my favorite ships and id be rather interested to see what kinda design we get to see for it, but i do have a feeling that it will come out about the same time that the T6 Oddy and Bortasqu comes out which i dont think will be to far away.
All I hear when I see someone says scimitard is: Waaaaaaah it's not fair that the romulans get a powerful dreadnought and me as a fed doesnt! It's not fair it's not fair IT'S NOT FAIR! Grow up already! Feds got way more ships and some are way better than the Scimitar Dreadnought and we got 1 really good ship a bunch of good ships and even more TRIBBLE ships!
All I hear when I see someone says scimitard is: Waaaaaaah it's not fair that the romulans get a powerful dreadnought and me as a fed doesnt! It's not fair it's not fair IT'S NOT FAIR! Grow up already! Feds got way more ships and some are way better than the Scimitar Dreadnought and we got 1 really good ship a bunch of good ships and even more TRIBBLE ships!
While it is true that the Roms are somewhat neglected, it still is imperative for minmaxing that you roll one of them. This doesn't need to be perpetuated. And I would like to know which ships are "way better" than a T5U Scimitar. It would be of no use to Feds (would anybody think of the klingons?) to have more ship choice if none of them came close to what a potential T6 Scimi does.
My mother was an epohh and my father smelled of tulaberries
a T6 scimitar that does similar to what the original scimitar could perform
i will be trying to match the scimitar's abilities to what it performed in the movie only with a STO twist
any thought on this would be appreciated
before I detail the ship on its stats, i would like to state that a thalaron pulse as an inbuilt ability would be a must
so without further or do here is my ship for a T6 scimitar plus a T6 starship trait
5 fwd/3 aft weapon slots (for consistency)
+10 to weapons
+5 to aux
boff slots
commander tactical
lt commander engineering/pilot (the scimitar in the movie was way to maneuverable compared to what the T5 version does, to keep it looking consistent some pilot abilities would suit this slot well making the scimitar all that more maneuverable)
lt commander universal (for flexibility) :P
lt science
ensign tactical/command (for that little bit of pizzazz and damage)
starship mastery (same as T5 scimitar only with T6 trait)
thalaron pulse now deals a base 30,000 radiation damage and is built in. 3 second activation, 7 second recovery (as the pulse drains all power and disables consoles).
T6 trait thalaron emitters - all energy weapons now have a 5% chance to deal radiation damage to the target (ignores shields) and 30% on torpedoes (ignores shields), this is based off of your auxiliary power (60 aux power giving highest proc and damage possible) dealt as DoT. This radiation cannot be cleansed by hazard emitters.
Hangar Bay - 2x UR T'varo BoP (Epic in Lobi store)
4x Rom Plasma Beam Arrays (Epic 5)
Cloak w/Ambush Bonus
BO2 - BFaW 2 (Epic 3)
Feedback Pulse 2 (Epic 3)
Reverse Shield Polarity 2 (Epic 3)
My 0.02ec included above.
I do get the apprehension certain players have when they read the part about approximating the movie version more.
Is a T6 Scim "OP"?
Hell yeah.
But, it should be.
It was meant to be.
This is the only ship in STO that can be legitimately OP and be justified being so.
Scimitar got taken out with blind, noob usage of BFAW, timely use of Boarding Party III, and Picard Ramming Speed III by an obsolete T5U Sovereign.
Also, Shinzon had single cannons equipped on the Scimitar. Shinzon was a noob.
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I'm with you on this one, i hope a T6 simitar when releases causes sto to crash and burn, the T5u scim is already an "I win" button.
Don't you guys get bored mashing spacebar without any thought?
It's just too OP already and people want a T6 version? (If you answer yes, your a bad player and should feel bad).
You got the best ship in the game DPS wise, and you want more ??
What ? Is the full compliment of SRO boffs not enough for you ? On top of everything else ?
I'm seeing a ton of other ships that parse ridiculously high and make a joke of ISA, yet it is the Scimitar that apparently is OP and some people want to see that ship line vanish as if it would solve the power selling and power creep and huge disparity in DPS.
Parroting childish insults towards a ship line just damages one's credibility.
Yes there are those like myself and another fleet member that do like the looks of the ships, that use cannon builds with torps, make use of the thalaron pulse and consoles despite feeling gimmicky (no thanks to DR), enjoy the challenge of a large dreadnought with high inertia, slow turn rates, and low innate damage resistance, and still have a lot more fun flying them over many other ships while still being very effective.
Odyssey was hinted at, and so by definition look forward to the Romulan flagship as well.
you are not alone, I would like to see also a T6 Dhelan . I still use the fleet T5-U (disruptor cannons build), and I like it very much. this ship can be very powerful and at the same time a little tank, + the dhelan is very nice, one of my favourite Cryptic design.
Yet ANOTHER begging thread for the Scimi and boy do you want it OP! No, no, no, NO! Those stats will never happen.
Extremeley valid point
That is the big question though: how will they handle T6 versions of T5 3-packs. Another just more expensive 3-pack with slightly improved consoles ?
The T6 Scim is to T6 what the T5 Scim was to T5. Only Roms do decent damage, everybody else weeps.
The T6 Scim is only a slight update from the T5 as is par for the course for T5 to T6 upgrades and consequently won't rule the waves. Cue at least five threads complaining how it isn't worth the extra money and how from canon it should be able to one shot everything.
My 0.02ec included above.
I do get the apprehension certain players have when they read the part about approximating the movie version more.
Is a T6 Scim "OP"?
Hell yeah.
But, it should be.
It was meant to be.
This is the only ship in STO that can be legitimately OP and be justified being so.
RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
So? The Scim was beat by a Sovereign and 2 Mogai...Cubes took entire fleets to take down and that was with knowledge of their weak spot...yet people can solo Cubes in STO...so no...the Scimitar doesn't need to be the heavily WAYYYY over the top OP version the OP wants.
While it is true that the Roms are somewhat neglected, it still is imperative for minmaxing that you roll one of them. This doesn't need to be perpetuated. And I would like to know which ships are "way better" than a T5U Scimitar. It would be of no use to Feds (would anybody think of the klingons?) to have more ship choice if none of them came close to what a potential T6 Scimi does.
Scimitar got taken out with blind, noob usage of BFAW, timely use of Boarding Party III, and Picard Ramming Speed III by an obsolete T5U Sovereign.
Also, Shinzon had single cannons equipped on the Scimitar. Shinzon was a noob.
Yeah, but he had, what?, 63 of them on his ship. That's alot of weapon slots!