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theonlyhamster
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A T6 scimitar would be quite a prospect plus after seeing this image (see below) it got me thinking
(image found at: adamburn.deviantart.com/art/Star-Trek-Online-Kilij-Romulan-Dreadnought-452909611)
here is my proposal:
a T6 scimitar that does similar to what the original scimitar could perform
i will be trying to match the scimitar's abilities to what it performed in the movie only with a STO twist
any thought on this would be apprieciated
before I detail the ship on its stats, i would like to state that a thalaron pulse as an inbuilt ability would be a must
so without further or do here is my ship for a T6 scimitar plus a T6 starship trait
5 fwd/3 aft weapon slots (for consistancy)
+10 to weapons
+5 to engines and aux
boff slots
commander tactical
lt commander engineering/pilot (the scimitar in the movie was way to manouverable compared to what the T5 version does, to keep it looking consistant some pilot abilities would suit this slot well making the scimitar all that more manouverable)
lt commander universal (for flexibility) :P
lt science
ensign tactical/command (for that little bit of pizazz and damage)
starship mastery (same as T5 scimitar only with T6 trait)
thalaron pulse now deals a base 30,000 radiation damage and is built in
T6 trait thalaron emitters - all energy weapons now have a 1-30% chance to deal radiation damage to the target (ignores shields), and a 20%-50% on torpedoes (ignores shields), this is based off of your auxiliary power (60 aux power giving highest proc and damage possible) delt as DoT. This radiation cannot be cleansed by hazard emitters.
scimitar 3 piece set instead of thalaron pulse now does the following only on T6 varient: (2 piece remains the same)
50% crit severity
10% crit chance
20 resistance rating to radiation and kinetic damage
25% flight turn rate and strength and speed
shields hardness doubles and shield modifier is 1.2
energy weapons now deal 20% shield penetrating damage above 110 weapon power and have a 1% chance to deal 1000 radiation damage to the target.
The scimitar can now use partial cloak coverage causing 50% accuracy penalty to enemies
(the scimitar was way to durable for the enterprise to defeat doubling the shield hardness and capacity felt necessary, as for the crits the scimitar could deal massive damage to the 3 ships it fought and took minimal repercussions, hence the 20 resistance to radiation and kinetic damage. it was also very agile, i also felt that giving the 3 piece set the ability to decloak parts of the ship (demonstrated in the movie) would make it more accurate)
console slots
4x device slots
4x engineering slots
1x science slot
5x tactical slot
(the scimitar never showed any science capabilities so making it a full on damage taking and dealing machine makes more sense (IMO))
any ship that will look as cool as this IMO would be brilliant yet deadly
please do tell me your varient and how it would compliment the scimitar's original performance in the movie
yours sincerely @thehampster01
(edit 5x engineering slots :P)
(image found at: adamburn.deviantart.com/art/Star-Trek-Online-Kilij-Romulan-Dreadnought-452909611)
here is my proposal:
a T6 scimitar that does similar to what the original scimitar could perform
i will be trying to match the scimitar's abilities to what it performed in the movie only with a STO twist
any thought on this would be apprieciated
before I detail the ship on its stats, i would like to state that a thalaron pulse as an inbuilt ability would be a must
so without further or do here is my ship for a T6 scimitar plus a T6 starship trait
5 fwd/3 aft weapon slots (for consistancy)
+10 to weapons
+5 to engines and aux
boff slots
commander tactical
lt commander engineering/pilot (the scimitar in the movie was way to manouverable compared to what the T5 version does, to keep it looking consistant some pilot abilities would suit this slot well making the scimitar all that more manouverable)
lt commander universal (for flexibility) :P
lt science
ensign tactical/command (for that little bit of pizazz and damage)
starship mastery (same as T5 scimitar only with T6 trait)
thalaron pulse now deals a base 30,000 radiation damage and is built in
T6 trait thalaron emitters - all energy weapons now have a 1-30% chance to deal radiation damage to the target (ignores shields), and a 20%-50% on torpedoes (ignores shields), this is based off of your auxiliary power (60 aux power giving highest proc and damage possible) delt as DoT. This radiation cannot be cleansed by hazard emitters.
scimitar 3 piece set instead of thalaron pulse now does the following only on T6 varient: (2 piece remains the same)
50% crit severity
10% crit chance
20 resistance rating to radiation and kinetic damage
25% flight turn rate and strength and speed
shields hardness doubles and shield modifier is 1.2
energy weapons now deal 20% shield penetrating damage above 110 weapon power and have a 1% chance to deal 1000 radiation damage to the target.
The scimitar can now use partial cloak coverage causing 50% accuracy penalty to enemies
(the scimitar was way to durable for the enterprise to defeat doubling the shield hardness and capacity felt necessary, as for the crits the scimitar could deal massive damage to the 3 ships it fought and took minimal repercussions, hence the 20 resistance to radiation and kinetic damage. it was also very agile, i also felt that giving the 3 piece set the ability to decloak parts of the ship (demonstrated in the movie) would make it more accurate)
console slots
4x device slots
4x engineering slots
1x science slot
5x tactical slot
(the scimitar never showed any science capabilities so making it a full on damage taking and dealing machine makes more sense (IMO))
any ship that will look as cool as this IMO would be brilliant yet deadly
please do tell me your varient and how it would compliment the scimitar's original performance in the movie
yours sincerely @thehampster01
(edit 5x engineering slots :P)
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As far as a T6 scimitar, wouldn't a "I win" button be easier?
true to the point however this is for those who what to speculate how the T6 scimitar could truely represent the scimitar from the movie not when it would be implemented
never said it was official it just got me thinking :P
Don't forget there are two other variants in the set which will increase the Science Slots and the other the Engineering Slots. Also this will be an 11 Console ship not 10.
Be prepared for people to crucify you for making an OP ship even more so.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
lol don't mind if i do :P plus thanks for pointing out that it should be an 11 slot and the 2 other varients and thats why i'm leaving it open for people to leave their own thoughts
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
The T5U is already the top dog DPS wise.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
honestly... the scimitard doesnt need a t6 makeover... greed will make it happen but I can also hope the physical server for STO explodes that day so players don't have to put up with it and I can watch the forums burn in flames from all the people that pre-ordered it demanding cryptic fix the game so they can pew pew pvpeen
How are you on an Anti-PVP tangent when it no longer exists in this game?
As for the prospect of a T6 Scimitar, it's going to happen should there ever be a Flagship T6 makeover. I can see Odyssey, Bortasqu', Scimitar getting the T6 makeover at the same time. But that linked "Scimitar" image? Gah!
Though i would wonder what kind of seating, abilties, and stats would a tier six adapted dreadnaught have compared to the normal dreadnaught.
Also on the note of adapted it would be so interesting an fun to see a pack be in the lockbox that gives you a selection of adapted varients of existing parts for ships of certain type, as i wonder what an adapted Gal-x or patrol escort might look like if it was done as a adapted version (not like using the borg set mind you, but like the adapted ships fromt eh tal shiar box).
The ship isn't nearly as overpowered as some people make it out to be. Is it powerful? Yes it is.. it's the king of T5, but it's equaled and even surpassed by several T6 ships. It has some nice abilities, no doubt, but it handles like a brick suspended in liquid cement and managing power levels on it is tough even with a leech console. It's also fairly soft for a ship of it's size. A T6 won't break the game as long as the Trait is within reason, that will be the deal breaker. Those who think it's an 'I win button' haven't actually flown one. At this point in the game, the Scimitar is nothing special anymore.
On another note, as someone that does fly a Scimitar on one of my alts, I'm a little tired of your constant insults to those of us who like the ship. I generally like your posts and agree with a lot of what you say, but your bashing of Scimitar captains and the constant 'Scimitard' comments are wearing thin. You like the Nova, you don't have people piling on you for that. You take every possible chance to insult those that like the ship and frankly, it's beneath a poster of your caliber.
Some of us actually like the look of the Scimitar and enjoy flying it. You should try being less judgmental of those that enjoy the ship.
Remember when it was first released and every noob and his mom was flying it? Exploding Scimitars everywhere.
you see that happening a new T6 Scimi having +1 console + Intell station (2x oss) lol I don't even wanna speculate what kind of DPS that would bring ....
It was a funny time. Much rage on the forums about it being so squishy.
I admit, I still laugh to myself when I see someone use that Thalaron Pulse. I can't believe anyone actually uses that thing.. but if they have fun blowing up for so little payoff then I guess good for them.
The only good console is probably the one that allows shields to stay up under cloak.
Has saved me a few times, I know that!
I was active in PVP at the time when LOR released with the soon-to-follow Scimitars. When those ships released, the moment I logged in I hit the queues. My goal was to be the first one in my fleet that destroyed one in PVP, which I was able to accomplish. I can't remember what ship I used to do it though. All I remember was how easy it was, simply just by going behind it.
I still remember some poor saps trying to use Thalaron Pulse in a PUG Cap 'N 'Splode match. May as well hit Self Destruct.
TBH, I feared the Dhelan, Ha'feh, Mogai, T'Varo more than I did Scimitars in PVP. The others hit hard and handled far better and were elusive, especially T'Varo and Dhelan.
Unless you were in a tight knit premade group where friends will protect you, Scimitars were juicy targets in PVP. I considered them to primarily be "PVE Boats."
It would make sense from the flagship status to get the Scimi more into Eng territory (more durability), reduce Tac abilities (no 5 consoles), maybe add Sci options, switch layout to 4/4. Definitely use a "command" leaning when it comes to the new specs. Maybe even a commander command. I'd allow for a Lt Uni/Intel, but certainly not pilot. A flagship is normally not used as the first attacking ship. It should be large and imposing and able to hold its own, not necessarily swift. Battle cloak is a rom thing, gotta live with it, but lose cloaked barrage. Apart from that: focus on durability.
It may need a buff to make it at least somewhat sellable in another department, but I think the "Scimitard" moniker also comes from the tac-BFAW-pewpew more than from the looks (and using a variation of a name to ridicule others makes you lose half an argument, be it "Scimitard", "Craptic", "Obummer", it only shows that you have nothing to really support your statement but unoriginal attempts at insulting - end of detour). I think some real Command style team buff ability would best fit it.
And since players probably expect the console set from the present Scimitar/Falchion/Tulwar group to be upwards compatible, make it actually worthwile to use it apart from the admittedly fun graphics. Not on par with top DPS builds, but useful
Sure, I can see that. But now it's only one of several ships that can do the exact same thing. At one time, it was the hands down king, but honestly.. at this point in the game, it's just another 'face in the crowd.'
Also, as hard as it may be to believe, there are people that don't fly it in a min/maxed DPS build. There are people that liked the ship in the movie and like the way it looks. I just think it's unfair to lump all Scimitar Pilots into one broad category, especially when it's based on a perception of it being extremely overpowered which it isn't anymore.
I do however, agree with you on the T6 Scimitar, I'm a little nervous there. If they give the T6 an intel seat and a powerful, offensive minded trait.. then it's over for sure. They need to be very very careful with the T6 Scimitar. If it dominates all T6 the way the T5 once did, then we have a problem. I don't want to see that happen either.
P.S. Please don't take this as me calling you out, I actually like you man. It's honestly just an open discussion with no hostility. Hopefully, that comes across accurately.