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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    The Special One Week 1/2-off sale is still not turned on for me Cryptic.
    Have I been a bad boy?
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    markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    I'm guessing it gets turned on after maint
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    danimb80danimb80 Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    Sorry, I'm not getting it.
    Is 1751 (T1) / 3501 (T2) / 7001 (T3) / 14001 (T4) / 28001 (T5) now the correct discounted price or not?!
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    dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    Should be, though you've applied discounts from the Dilithium Mine that might not apply to everyone.

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    strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 2,666 Bug Hunter
    edited October 2015
    danimb80 wrote: »
    Sorry, I'm not getting it.
    Is 1751 (T1) / 3501 (T2) / 7001 (T3) / 14001 (T4) / 28001 (T5) now the correct discounted price or not?!

    I notice that same pricing on my FED & ROM characters yet my Klingon display's higher prices! NOTE: All my toons are in a large Fleet with DIL discounts from Tier 1 of 4%, Tier 2 of 5%, and Tier 3 of 6%, still the price for DILITHIUM ships is higher for my KLINGON toon.

    Federation & Romulan toons shows:
    1751 (T1) / 3501 (T2) / 7001 (T3) / 14001 (T4) / 28001 (T5)

    Yet my Klingon toons shows:
    2500 (T1) / 5000 (T2) / 10000 (T3) / 20000 (T4) / 40000 (T5)

    I've reported it to developers yesterday, and via in game BUG as well--perhaps we'll see it updated with tomorrow's patch. Clearly the KDF aren't benefiting from the Fleet Dilithium Discount, although not sure if other KDF see this, or a secondary issue is because my Klingon is a Delta Recruit.
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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    All my Toons are in my own Fleet (which is not even at T-1).
    Perhaps that is why I'm not getting the discount?
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    sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    strathkin wrote: »
    danimb80 wrote: »
    Sorry, I'm not getting it.
    Is 1751 (T1) / 3501 (T2) / 7001 (T3) / 14001 (T4) / 28001 (T5) now the correct discounted price or not?!

    I notice that same pricing on my FED & ROM characters yet my Klingon display's higher prices! NOTE: All my toons are in a large Fleet with DIL discounts from Tier 1 of 4%, Tier 2 of 5%, and Tier 3 of 6%, still the price for DILITHIUM ships is higher for my KLINGON toon.

    Federation & Romulan toons shows:
    1751 (T1) / 3501 (T2) / 7001 (T3) / 14001 (T4) / 28001 (T5)

    Yet my Klingon toons shows:
    2500 (T1) / 5000 (T2) / 10000 (T3) / 20000 (T4) / 40000 (T5)

    I've reported it to developers yesterday, and via in game BUG as well--perhaps we'll see it updated with tomorrow's patch. Clearly the KDF aren't benefiting from the Fleet Dilithium Discount, although not sure if other KDF see this, or a secondary issue is because my Klingon is a Delta Recruit.

    I have the same lack of dilithium mine discount for my Klingon despite the T3 mine.
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    danimb80danimb80 Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    I have the same lack of dilithium mine discount for my Klingon despite the T3 mine.
    I think the problem runs much deeper.

    First: we never had dilithium fleet discounts on dilithium ships before. I would have noticed this when I built my ship spreadsheet four weeks ago.

    Second: if we actually had the Discount from the Fleet Dilithium Mine, we would have 15% (sic!). It's 4% from Tier 1, 5% from Tier 2, 6% from Tier 3. That's 15%. NOT 30%.

    I re-calculated a few hours ago, after I posted first. I then figured out, that every price I mentioned, is exactly 30% (+1 Dil) off the discounted price. I wasn't sure if this was some kind of reward, due to a few hours of tribble testing (as we don't get Tribbles anymore).

    As it seems, it's not. It's flat 30% on FED & RRF toons with Tier 3 Dilithium Mine. Which is still double Discount compared to the regular 15%, we didn't even have on Dilithium Ships before. I'm not unhappy with that, but the little anal voice in my head wasn't coping well with those numbers. And obviously other players have reported this issue, without any answer from the PTB.

    So... make it official and give it to KDF toons too, right?
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    strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 2,666 Bug Hunter
    edited October 2015
    danimb80 wrote: »
    I have the same lack of dilithium mine discount for my Klingon despite the T3 mine.
    I think the problem runs much deeper.

    First: we never had dilithium fleet discounts on dilithium ships before. I would have noticed this when I built my ship spreadsheet four weeks ago.

    Second: if we actually had the Discount from the Fleet Dilithium Mine, we would have 15% (sic!). It's 4% from Tier 1, 5% from Tier 2, 6% from Tier 3. That's 15%. NOT 30%.

    I re-calculated a few hours ago, after I posted first. I then figured out, that every price I mentioned, is exactly 30% (+1 Dil) off the discounted price. I wasn't sure if this was some kind of reward, due to a few hours of tribble testing (as we don't get Tribbles anymore).

    As it seems, it's not. It's flat 30% on FED & RRF toons with Tier 3 Dilithium Mine. Which is still double Discount compared to the regular 15%, we didn't even have on Dilithium Ships before. I'm not unhappy with that, but the little anal voice in my head wasn't coping well with those numbers. And obviously other players have reported this issue, without any answer from the PTB.

    So... make it official and give it to KDF toons too, right?

    My expectation is DILITHIUM Ships apply the correct discount to both factions. You are correct the Fleet Discounts from Tier 1-3 do stack, and equally correct the discount is higher than Fleet. It's also true DILITHIUM ships did not previously apply the Fleet Discounts, yet believe they were intended for fleet provisioned items only--Starbase, Mine, Embassy, Sphire & Research Station.

    Yet if Fleet dilithium discounts were applied (moving forward) the correct fleet price would be 2,125, etc... To be fair their are a lot of different mechanic's developers need to be aware of. So let's identify all the issue as were doing, be thankful they reduced the prices long term, and for the remainder of the week a reduced rate. Hopeful we'll see any discrepancy resolved for Klingons in the near future.

    Regardless--I know the team is very hard at work resolving a BUG effecting the MAC emulator. The team at Cryptic has been very kind to EVERYONE this last week. <3 So thank you to those who identified the issue in a professional manner. I only wished we extended a little more kindness in the forums not only to cryptic but other players--it's important to treat others as you'd like to be treated.

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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    Not that anybody cares, but it's working for me now.
    Thank you.
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    monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    strathkin wrote: »
    danimb80 wrote: »
    Sorry, I'm not getting it.
    Is 1751 (T1) / 3501 (T2) / 7001 (T3) / 14001 (T4) / 28001 (T5) now the correct discounted price or not?!

    I notice that same pricing on my FED & ROM characters yet my Klingon display's higher prices! NOTE: All my toons are in a large Fleet with DIL discounts from Tier 1 of 4%, Tier 2 of 5%, and Tier 3 of 6%, still the price for DILITHIUM ships is higher for my KLINGON toon.

    Federation & Romulan toons shows:
    1751 (T1) / 3501 (T2) / 7001 (T3) / 14001 (T4) / 28001 (T5)

    Yet my Klingon toons shows:
    2500 (T1) / 5000 (T2) / 10000 (T3) / 20000 (T4) / 40000 (T5)

    I've reported it to developers yesterday, and via in game BUG as well--perhaps we'll see it updated with tomorrow's patch. Clearly the KDF aren't benefiting from the Fleet Dilithium Discount, although not sure if other KDF see this, or a secondary issue is because my Klingon is a Delta Recruit.

    They are aware of the issue and working to fix it. Sadly it probably won't come until after the promotional discount period ends.



    Edit: It didn't seem to be fixed with the most recent maintenances. Yesterday I still had to pay 5k dilithium for each KDF character to get their starter ship. But still, it wasn't too expensive.
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    ficrficr Member Posts: 235 Arc User
    strathkin wrote: »
    danimb80 wrote: »
    Sorry, I'm not getting it.
    Is 1751 (T1) / 3501 (T2) / 7001 (T3) / 14001 (T4) / 28001 (T5) now the correct discounted price or not?!

    I notice that same pricing on my FED & ROM characters yet my Klingon display's higher prices! NOTE: All my toons are in a large Fleet with DIL discounts from Tier 1 of 4%, Tier 2 of 5%, and Tier 3 of 6%, still the price for DILITHIUM ships is higher for my KLINGON toon.

    Federation & Romulan toons shows:
    1751 (T1) / 3501 (T2) / 7001 (T3) / 14001 (T4) / 28001 (T5)

    Yet my Klingon toons shows:
    2500 (T1) / 5000 (T2) / 10000 (T3) / 20000 (T4) / 40000 (T5)

    I've reported it to developers yesterday, and via in game BUG as well--perhaps we'll see it updated with tomorrow's patch. Clearly the KDF aren't benefiting from the Fleet Dilithium Discount, although not sure if other KDF see this, or a secondary issue is because my Klingon is a Delta Recruit.

    They are aware of the issue and working to fix it. Sadly it probably won't come until after the promotional discount period ends.



    Edit: It didn't seem to be fixed with the most recent maintenances. Yesterday I still had to pay 5k dilithium for each KDF character to get their starter ship. But still, it wasn't too expensive.

    This would explain why my KDF-Rom had a lower price for Rom ships then KDF ships.

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    strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 2,666 Bug Hunter
    edited November 2015
    I saw that post from Borticus [PWDEVELOPER] on Facebook as well. Not sure if the Fleet discounts will ONLY be applied during the 'extra' promotion week? Still let's remain hopeful Klingons get extended this before it goes away, YET remember we all have Captain's of different factions, and obtained many GIFTS from Cryptic the last two weeks. Let's all be thankful for what we got, rather than upset about what we didn't -- their team is a dedicated group of hard working individuals. <3

    They too need downtime after a long day at work, so they remain committed to the next day's challenges. We can't expect every time an issue or unforseen limitation on how a power or faction may have been designed, requires them to give up time with family or spending down time to pursue personal interests--something they allow us to to do with ours. :o
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    ficrficr Member Posts: 235 Arc User
    I've taken advantage of the discount to dump a HUGE amount of dilithium to acquire and dismiss ships across my fleet of alts. I look forward to the next C-store discount to repeat.

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