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Is there really going to be another Temporal Ship with New Dawn?

kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
I haven't been able to play it yet on Tribble, because the queues are dead there, but I heard that in the PvE "Counterpoint" there's a massive Mobius in the game. Now, is that just a regular Mobius, or are we going to be getting something like a Temporal Carrier and it be a lock box ship or *shudder* an R&D Pack one, etc?
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    In Counterpoint, it's a Temporal Dreadnought, a fat Mobius with a cockpit on both of its wings, a lance (because Dreadnought), and the rewind and triplicate temporal consoles, and that is heavily implied to have played a role in the Mirror!Iconians' downfall.

    And it's still unknown if we're gonna get it, and if it's gonna be a R&D pack prize (most likely as the next lockbox is most likely a Herald one).
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  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    In Counterpoint, it's a Temporal Dreadnought, a fat Mobius with a cockpit on both of its wings, a lance (because Dreadnought), and the rewind and triplicate temporal consoles, and that is heavily implied to have played a role in the Mirror!Iconians' downfall.

    And it's still unknown if we're gonna get it, and if it's gonna be a R&D pack prize (most likely as the next lockbox is most likely a Herald one).

    Maybe it's one of the few ships that dosen't get stuffed into a box. Terran ships were always for feds only and somehow I doubt cryptic will actually create a rom & kdf counterpart like they did with the other time & mirror ships.
  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    If its a cousin of the Mobius, I for one will be furious if they stick it in an R&D/Doff pack promo.
    Same goes for a T6 wells (should be a lockbox ship like its predecessor), or T6 Vesta (C-store available).
    Any ship that originated in the Zen Store/lockbox or Lobi store should NOT be placed in an R&D/Doff pack promo.

    I will... lose it, if any of these is used as bait for an R&D/Doff pack promo.
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  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    If anything, a free T6 upgrade of a T5-U and urgh...the lock boxes aren't DEVESTATING, but the R&D packs are soul-destroying.

    Does anyone have a photo of this Dreadnought though?
  • captainransomcaptainransom Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    If its a cousin of the Mobius, I for one will be furious if they stick it in an R&D/Doff pack promo.
    Same goes for a T6 wells (should be a lockbox ship like its predecessor), or T6 Vesta (C-store available).
    Any ship that originated in the Zen Store/lockbox or Lobi store should NOT be placed in an R&D/Doff pack promo.

    I will... lose it, if any of these is used as bait for an R&D/Doff pack promo.

    ^^ This is basically guaranteed. $$$ is king. B)
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  • ryugasiriusryugasirius Member Posts: 283 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    Yep, it will be friggin' awesome for SCI/Partgen builds, so 100% it will be lockbox/promobox only -.- i'll probably give up and pay whatever EC I have to to get it on the exchange :/
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  • wintermutevreswintermutevres Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    Yup temporal dread. And I'll eat my socks if Crypric won't put it in r&d or doff promobox.
  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    Yup temporal dread. And I'll eat my socks if Crypric won't put it in r&d or doff promobox.

    Well, at least I've got to spare Annorax to try and swap for it.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    Actually considering the current Temporal ships come from the 29th Century they should be T6 at least already. Do the Ferengi remove less of the technology when providing T6 Temporal Ships than they did providing the T5 Temporal Ship? If so they should have a big storehouse of the stuff they removed from the T6s and provide that for a small upgrade Lobi price to bring it up to T6. ;)
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  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,670 Arc User
    kayajay wrote: »
    I haven't been able to play it yet on Tribble, because the queues are dead there, but I heard that in the PvE "Counterpoint" there's a massive Mobius in the game. Now, is that just a regular Mobius, or are we going to be getting something like a Temporal Carrier and it be a lock box ship or *shudder* an R&D Pack one, etc?

    There's also one bolted to the top of the Klingon Base in the final phase of the Badlands Battlezone. Which, come to think of it, is an interesting place to be bolted too...
  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Actually considering the current Temporal ships come from the 29th Century they should be T6 at least already. Do the Ferengi remove less of the technology when providing T6 Temporal Ships than they did providing the T5 Temporal Ship? If so they should have a big storehouse of the stuff they removed from the T6s and provide that for a small upgrade Lobi price to bring it up to T6. ;)

    I doubt it's not so much that they removed technology as the ships never had those specializations to begin with.

    Just because it's from the future doesn't mean that it's automatically going to be of the highest ship type there is. I'm pretty sure there are probably plenty of starships in the 29th century that, while advanced by our standards, are pretty much the equivalent of a low Tier ship (imagine a 29th century Miranda style ship, and then look me in the eye and tlel me it's going to be higher than T-3, lol).
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  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    ltminns wrote: »
    Actually considering the current Temporal ships come from the 29th Century they should be T6 at least already. Do the Ferengi remove less of the technology when providing T6 Temporal Ships than they did providing the T5 Temporal Ship? If so they should have a big storehouse of the stuff they removed from the T6s and provide that for a small upgrade Lobi price to bring it up to T6. ;)

    I doubt it's not so much that they removed technology as the ships never had those specializations to begin with.

    Just because it's from the future doesn't mean that it's automatically going to be of the highest ship type there is. I'm pretty sure there are probably plenty of starships in the 29th century that, while advanced by our standards, are pretty much the equivalent of a low Tier ship (imagine a 29th century Miranda style ship, and then look me in the eye and tlel me it's going to be higher than T-3, lol).

    The Wells is a temporal SCIENCE vessel, so how Voyager was equipped to open that Ferengi sun-thing and the ship on an intercept course wasn't, it will have advances in other areas. Regular 29th century Starfleet vessels won't be able to travel through time and create temporal shielding, etc and a Wells won't have the latest battle armaments.
  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    It will be interesting though, because of course...the Rommies and KDF have their own versions of Temporal Vessels.
  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,272 Arc User
    If its a cousin of the Mobius, I for one will be furious if they stick it in an R&D/Doff pack promo.
    Same goes for a T6 wells (should be a lockbox ship like its predecessor), or T6 Vesta (C-store available).
    Any ship that originated in the Zen Store/lockbox or Lobi store should NOT be placed in an R&D/Doff pack promo.

    I will... lose it, if any of these is used as bait for an R&D/Doff pack promo.

    ^^ This is basically guaranteed. $$$ is king. B)


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  • svindal777svindal777 Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    If they do a Wells/Mobius T6 update I hope they reverse they way they are obtained. Lobi for Wells, Lockbox for Mobius.
    Well excuse me for having enormous flaws that I don't work on.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    kayajay wrote: »
    Does anyone have a photo of this Dreadnought though?
    Yes:
    From above.
    I would have taken a pic myself during Counterpoint, but with all the weapon fire, you can't see anything.

    #TASforSTO
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  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    Holy temporal batwing, batman!
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  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,413 Arc User
    Not too fond of its looks unfortunately when I first spotted it in tribble. I really hope it won't be the end of the line for the Wells & Mobius, and if it is, it better be a Science dreadnought just like the Annorax with a flight deck. This is because both of those predecessors are pure science or science-heavy destroyer. It would be totally odd and completely disappointing if they finished the T6 as the Mobius as a Dread since the line centers around the canon Wells.

    Then again, it's a mirror ship, so it could be an escort dread or even cruiser dread for all I know, in which case I have no interest considering the Annorax is around.
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  • messahlamessahla Member Posts: 1,160 Arc User
    If its a cousin of the Mobius, I for one will be furious if they stick it in an R&D/Doff pack promo.
    Same goes for a T6 wells (should be a lockbox ship like its predecessor), or T6 Vesta (C-store available).
    Any ship that originated in the Zen Store/lockbox or Lobi store should NOT be placed in an R&D/Doff pack promo.

    I will... lose it, if any of these is used as bait for an R&D/Doff pack promo.

    tbh taylor its seems to be cryptics MO these days sadly enough
  • titansupremetitansupreme Member Posts: 47 Arc User
    If its a cousin of the Mobius, I for one will be furious if they stick it in an R&D/Doff pack promo.
    Same goes for a T6 wells (should be a lockbox ship like its predecessor), or T6 Vesta (C-store available).
    Any ship that originated in the Zen Store/lockbox or Lobi store should NOT be placed in an R&D/Doff pack promo.

    I will... lose it, if any of these is used as bait for an R&D/Doff pack promo.

    Think of all of those who got T5 Bug Ships and then the R&D box scam of a new bug was released.

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  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    If its a cousin of the Mobius, I for one will be furious if they stick it in an R&D/Doff pack promo.
    Same goes for a T6 wells (should be a lockbox ship like its predecessor), or T6 Vesta (C-store available).
    Any ship that originated in the Zen Store/lockbox or Lobi store should NOT be placed in an R&D/Doff pack promo.

    I will... lose it, if any of these is used as bait for an R&D/Doff pack promo.

    Think of all of those who got T5 Bug Ships and then the R&D box scam of a new bug was released.

    Wasn't the Bug Ship a promo thing anyway ?
    I don't remember it ever being in a lockbox.

    I got mine (T5 JHAS) from the Rom doff pack promo long ago... Took me about 80 packs to get it.
    (which is where I learned, never to play the promo thing ever again) :P


    I'll just be super disappointed/letdown if they go the Promo route with any of these (T6 Wells/T6 Vesta/ T6 Mobius) since they never came from promos to begin with.


    * I suppose a "Dread" Mobius would be different, and I could live with it being a promo thing, but a straight "T6 Mobius Destroyer" should be Lobi store accessible* - If they ever get around to making one....



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  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    ltminns wrote: »
    Actually considering the current Temporal ships come from the 29th Century they should be T6 at least already. Do the Ferengi remove less of the technology when providing T6 Temporal Ships than they did providing the T5 Temporal Ship? If so they should have a big storehouse of the stuff they removed from the T6s and provide that for a small upgrade Lobi price to bring it up to T6. ;)

    I doubt it's not so much that they removed technology as the ships never had those specializations to begin with.

    Just because it's from the future doesn't mean that it's automatically going to be of the highest ship type there is. I'm pretty sure there are probably plenty of starships in the 29th century that, while advanced by our standards, are pretty much the equivalent of a low Tier ship (imagine a 29th century Miranda style ship, and then look me in the eye and tlel me it's going to be higher than T-3, lol).

    Most of the advanced technology was indeed removed, but by the Tholians, not the Ferengi. Cryptic explained that much about the temporal vessels.
  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    qjunior wrote: »
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    ltminns wrote: »
    Actually considering the current Temporal ships come from the 29th Century they should be T6 at least already. Do the Ferengi remove less of the technology when providing T6 Temporal Ships than they did providing the T5 Temporal Ship? If so they should have a big storehouse of the stuff they removed from the T6s and provide that for a small upgrade Lobi price to bring it up to T6. ;)

    I doubt it's not so much that they removed technology as the ships never had those specializations to begin with.

    Just because it's from the future doesn't mean that it's automatically going to be of the highest ship type there is. I'm pretty sure there are probably plenty of starships in the 29th century that, while advanced by our standards, are pretty much the equivalent of a low Tier ship (imagine a 29th century Miranda style ship, and then look me in the eye and tlel me it's going to be higher than T-3, lol).

    Most of the advanced technology was indeed removed, but by the Tholians, not the Ferengi. Cryptic explained that much about the temporal vessels.

    Im still wondering what the Tholians actually did with the advanced Tech.
    I thought it might have played a role during the Iconian war.. But that never turned out.

    Still wondering what they're doing with it.
    Seems like a loose end that needs to be tied up imo.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    If its a cousin of the Mobius, I for one will be furious if they stick it in an R&D/Doff pack promo.
    Same goes for a T6 wells (should be a lockbox ship like its predecessor), or T6 Vesta (C-store available).
    Any ship that originated in the Zen Store/lockbox or Lobi store should NOT be placed in an R&D/Doff pack promo.

    I will... lose it, if any of these is used as bait for an R&D/Doff pack promo.
    Think of all of those who got T5 Bug Ships and then the R&D box scam of a new bug was released.
    Wasn't the Bug Ship a promo thing anyway ?
    I don't remember it ever being in a lockbox.
    The first winter event gift boxes. In theory you could get one for free, but realistically, the odds were insignificant.

    This is what the ice race was for the first year. There were no pictures of Q. Doing the race daily would give you either a red or blue gift box. If you were lucky enough to get a red box then there was a tiny chance of getting a bug ship when you opened it.

    Opening a red box would give you a blue box, and maybe something else. Blue>green, and stuff. For some weird reason green boxes were CBoP even though they came out of blue boxes which were not.

    Stuff may or may not include random level appropriate items and assorted (bound) holiday trinkets. Yeah, for year one all holiday trinkets were bound.
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  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    If its a cousin of the Mobius, I for one will be furious if they stick it in an R&D/Doff pack promo.
    Same goes for a T6 wells (should be a lockbox ship like its predecessor), or T6 Vesta (C-store available).
    Any ship that originated in the Zen Store/lockbox or Lobi store should NOT be placed in an R&D/Doff pack promo.

    I will... lose it, if any of these is used as bait for an R&D/Doff pack promo.
    Think of all of those who got T5 Bug Ships and then the R&D box scam of a new bug was released.
    Wasn't the Bug Ship a promo thing anyway ?
    I don't remember it ever being in a lockbox.
    The first winter event gift boxes. In theory you could get one for free, but realistically, the odds were insignificant.

    This is what the ice race was for the first year. There were no pictures of Q. Doing the race daily would give you either a red or blue gift box. If you were lucky enough to get a red box then there was a tiny chance of getting a bug ship when you opened it.

    Opening a red box would give you a blue box, and maybe something else. Blue>green, and stuff. For some weird reason green boxes were CBoP even though they came out of blue boxes which were not.

    Stuff may or may not include random level appropriate items and assorted (bound) holiday trinkets. Yeah, for year one all holiday trinkets were bound.

    *_* wow really ?

    Only started when the game went f2p.
    My oh my, how the times change....

    Did people freak out when they didn't get the Bug Ship for doing the event start to finish ?
    Something tells me, a lot of people would have been unhappy, running an event everyday, only to receive... no ship.
    My God, the forum rage must've been astronomical.
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  • mosul33mosul33 Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    Not too fond of its looks unfortunately when I first spotted it in tribble. I really hope it won't be the end of the line for the Wells & Mobius, and if it is, it better be a Science dreadnought just like the Annorax with a flight deck. This is because both of those predecessors are pure science or science-heavy destroyer. It would be totally odd and completely disappointing if they finished the T6 as the Mobius as a Dread since the line centers around the canon Wells.

    Then again, it's a mirror ship, so it could be an escort dread or even cruiser dread for all I know, in which case I have no interest considering the Annorax is around.

    Heh, kinda like one's joy is another's sorrow... sort-of-speak. I actually like how it looks and would hate to be a sci dread. But I foresee it will be, 2nd sci dread, after Annorax. But that one gets boring after awhile. I would love that ship to be a dread carrier, but that is most likely saved up for a herald ship. And given that dread carriers are considered so powerfull that we only get one at every one and a half years, like it was the case of the JHDC and Narcine, the Temp Dread will most likely be a sci dread :(.
  • atlasmk7atlasmk7 Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    I don't think they would release two science dreadnoughts in a row. I think it will be Tac focused. I love the looks of it too.
  • mosul33mosul33 Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    atlasmk7 wrote: »
    I don't think they would release two science dreadnoughts in a row. I think it will be Tac focused. I love the looks of it too.

    Ohh but they wont. I foresee first it will be the herald dread carrier, then after a few months the tarantula dread cruiser then, probably next year summer/fall, the temporal sci dread. So they wont be released in a row.
  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    But how would they make it diffrent enough from the Annorax? Swap a sci console for a 5th tac? Pilot hybrid instead of Intel?
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  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    Well they could go with a new hybrid seat if they (i am kinda sure we will get a new spec) add a new speciality, along with maybe using the wells/mobious time ships as figates along with having the normal temporal shuttle also.
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