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Admiralty PSA: How to Prepare

orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
edited October 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Before Season 11:
-Don't discharge ANY ship that you can't immediately reclaim for free between now and Season 11
-Save all boxed ships that you can't immediately reclaim for free between now and Season 11
-If you do not have a Kamarang or Support Cruiser either commissioned or boxed, do the mission "Temporal Ambassador" and save the ship box
-Stock up on lockbox/lobi ships
-Make sure you have at least 1 ship slot on each character
-Recognize that each ship type(besides T5-Upgraded status) has a different representative Admiralty card within the Admiralty system(ex. having both "Exploration Cruiser" and "Exploration Cruiser Retrofit" will give you two separate Admiralty cards)

During Season 11:
-Claim/discharge all C-store ships for their Admiralty cards(Romulans! Don't forget your allied factions' tiers 1-4 ships!)*
-Claim/discharge all event ships for their Admiralty cards*
-(1,000-day Veterans) Claim/discharge BOTH Vet Destroyers for their Admiralty cards*
-(Federation or Fed-allied RRF Steam pack owners) Claim BOTH Steamrunner variants for their Admiralty cards(or just the T1 if you're Romulan)*
-Open all ship boxes that you have stored away that you don't plan on selling
-Repeat all of the above for each character
-All of the above apply even if you have a different version of the ship already commissioned

* Open the Admiralty UI BEFORE discharging to verify the card generated.
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    One question: if a lockbox or event ship is your currently ACTIVE ship that you are piloting, will you also get a card for it, or will you have to switch ships at least once after Season 11 goes online?

    Edit: Okay, now two questions. If you chunked the Ambassador box, will redoing the mission give you another one or are you out of luck?

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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,469 Arc User
    gulberat wrote: »
    One question: if a lockbox or event ship is your currently ACTIVE ship that you are piloting, will you also get a card for it, or will you have to switch ships at least once after Season 11 goes online?

    Edit: Okay, now two questions. If you chunked the Ambassador box, will redoing the mission give you another one or are you out of luck?

    All your active ships get a card straight out, apparently. If the mission still grants the ship, you'll be fine. Not done it in ages, so can't verify.
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  • alex284alex284 Member Posts: 366 Arc User
    The mission gives a ship on replay. Just did it a couple weeks ago.
  • tinkerstormtinkerstorm Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    orangeitis wrote: »
    Before Season 11:
    -Don't discharge ANY ship that you can't immediately reclaim for free between now and Season 11
    Way too late for characters that have been around for years, as in since Open Beta. How valuable are lower tier ships in the admiralty system?

  • welcome2earfwelcome2earf Member Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    Is this a ploy to get us to buy more ship slots? Or do we simply commission the unused ship in an open slot, get the card, then decommission, rinse/repeat?
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    Orange, good advice. Might I suggest highlighting criticial words for emphasis?


    Also, it occurred to me with people talking about the Ambassador / Kamarag. It would be great if we got Admirality Cards for stories that involve us playing missions where we fly other ships. Like Feds getting T1 B'rel Cards or for new players, getting cards for the Samsar.
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    azurianstar wrote: »
    Orange, good advice. Might I suggest highlighting criticial words for emphasis?


    Also, it occurred to me with people talking about the Ambassador / Kamarag. It would be great if we got Admirality Cards for stories that involve us playing missions where we fly other ships. Like Feds getting T1 B'rel Cards or for new players, getting cards for the Samsar.

    Or that Vaadwaur ship (was that a Manasa?) in Dragon's Deceit... :)

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  • kamiyama317kamiyama317 Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    I was hoping we would use our actual spare ships for stuff. I was planning on getting them all their own sets and equipment because I thought it might give me an edge.

    Instead we get the card and scrap them. This just means people will be accumulating even more unused ships than ever before and throwing them away.

    Man think about how wasteful the Federation is:

    We destroy ships by the tens of thousands looking for that one rare purple loot drop
    We send millions of officers to their deaths in starbase grinders to make bricks to build our starbases
    Now we will be buying up ships by the hundreds of thousands and throwing them away once we get the commemorative trading card that comes with it.

    So much waste. Modern day Earth is better at resource management than the Federation.
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  • royalsovereignroyalsovereign Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    gulberat wrote: »
    azurianstar wrote: »
    Orange, good advice. Might I suggest highlighting criticial words for emphasis?


    Also, it occurred to me with people talking about the Ambassador / Kamarag. It would be great if we got Admirality Cards for stories that involve us playing missions where we fly other ships. Like Feds getting T1 B'rel Cards or for new players, getting cards for the Samsar.

    Or that Vaadwaur ship (was that a Manasa?) in Dragon's Deceit... :)
    It wasn't an actual ship tho, just a holo-emitter disguise, IIRC.
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  • alex284alex284 Member Posts: 366 Arc User
    kamiyama317 wrote: »
    I was hoping we would use our actual spare ships for stuff. I was planning on getting them all their own sets and equipment because I thought it might give me an edge.

    And if we had to get sets (and weapons and consoles and upgrade it all) people would complain that Cryptic is just doing a huge money grab.
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  • kamiyama317kamiyama317 Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    alex284 wrote: »
    kamiyama317 wrote: »
    I was hoping we would use our actual spare ships for stuff. I was planning on getting them all their own sets and equipment because I thought it might give me an edge.

    And if we had to get sets (and weapons and consoles and upgrade it all) people would complain that Cryptic is just doing a huge money grab.

    I think it would have been fun. I have a bunch of sets and gear in my bank that just collect dust anyway.
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    royalsovereign wrote: »
    gulberat wrote: »
    azurianstar wrote: »
    Orange, good advice. Might I suggest highlighting criticial words for emphasis?


    Also, it occurred to me with people talking about the Ambassador / Kamarag. It would be great if we got Admirality Cards for stories that involve us playing missions where we fly other ships. Like Feds getting T1 B'rel Cards or for new players, getting cards for the Samsar.

    Or that Vaadwaur ship (was that a Manasa?) in Dragon's Deceit... :)
    It wasn't an actual ship tho, just a holo-emitter disguise, IIRC.

    Oh...which was the mission where you actually pilot the Manasa?

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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    tinkerstorm wrote: »
    orangeitis wrote: »
    Before Season 11:
    -Don't discharge ANY ship that you can't immediately reclaim for free between now and Season 11
    How valuable are lower tier ships in the admiralty system?
    Actually, they can be pretty valuable for assignments that don't require a lot of points, because the lesser the tier (OK, rarity and it's not the same as tier, but...) the faster they can come out of maintenance, so you can spare a higher-ranked ship from a long maintenance, even if you think you can get a better score with it.

    It's all about whether you want a higher crit chance on one mission or a higher but smaller crit chance on several.
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  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    they can keep their c..p, i won't use this ridiculous system.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    The lower tier ships seem particularly interesting if you expect to micro-manage more (which probably will net you more rewards overall) - they have lower maintenance times, that means you can use them more oftne. If you only got Tier 5 and Tier 6 ships available to you, you'll probably not be able to do that, because after they completed their mission they will require almost a day of maintenance.
    kamiyama317 wrote: »
    I was hoping we would use our actual spare ships for stuff. I was planning on getting them all their own sets and equipment because I thought it might give me an edge.

    Instead we get the card and scrap them. This just means people will be accumulating even more unused ships than ever before and throwing them away.

    Man think about how wasteful the Federation is:

    We destroy ships by the tens of thousands looking for that one rare purple loot drop
    We send millions of officers to their deaths in starbase grinders to make bricks to build our starbases
    Now we will be buying up ships by the hundreds of thousands and throwing them away once we get the commemorative trading card that comes with it.

    So much waste. Modern day Earth is better at resource management than the Federation.
    You're taking the game mechanics a bit too literal here. If you had the ship commissioned at least once, that means you can now send them off on Admiralty mission. If you retain them in your inventory, it just means that you have reserved the right to take command of the ship for yourself when you feel like it.​​
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    kamiyama317 wrote: »
    I was hoping we would use our actual spare ships for stuff. I was planning on getting them all their own sets and equipment because I thought it might give me an edge.

    Instead we get the card and scrap them. This just means people will be accumulating even more unused ships than ever before and throwing them away.

    Man think about how wasteful the Federation is:

    We destroy ships by the tens of thousands looking for that one rare purple loot drop
    We send millions of officers to their deaths in starbase grinders to make bricks to build our starbases
    Now we will be buying up ships by the hundreds of thousands and throwing them away once we get the commemorative trading card that comes with it.

    So much waste. Modern day Earth is better at resource management than the Federation.
    You're taking the game mechanics a bit too literal here. If you had the ship commissioned at least once, that means you can now send them off on Admiralty mission. If you retain them in your inventory, it just means that you have reserved the right to take command of the ship for yourself when you feel like it.​​

    But that doesn't sound anywhere near as funny as scrapping the ships so you can play cards with the other admirals.

    Just like boff candidates handing you instruction manuals and going home doesn't sound anywhere near as funny as space magically transforming them into manuals.
  • kamiyama317kamiyama317 Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    This is a list of Fed side tier 5 ships that don't cost dilithium or Zen. Everything can be purchases with EC or fleet credits (fleet modules can be purchased with EC).

    Can be bought straight from exchange

    Mirror Assault Cruiser
    Mirror Star Cruiser
    Mirror Heavy Cruiser Retrofit
    Mirror Battlecruiser
    Mirror Advanced Escort
    Mirror Patrol Escort
    Mirror Escort Retrofit
    Mirror Deep Space Science Vessel
    Mirror Reconnaissance Science Vessel
    Mirror Science Vessel Retrofit
    APU Cruiser
    Kazon Heavy Raider
    Malon Battlecruiser
    Nihydron Destroyer

    Can be bought from ship requisitions officer

    Rank 40 - One free standard tier 5 ship

    Obelisk Carrier - 2 fleet modules, 20000 fleet credits, tier 1 shipyard (costs two less fleet modules than a fleet ship)

    All fleet ships from the shipyard, including the Fleet Support Cruiser Retrofit (Ambassador class), cost 4 fleet modules and 20000 fleet credits as well as a tier 1 to 5 shipyard.

    If I missed any other tier 5 ships please let me know.
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    tinkerstorm wrote: »
    orangeitis wrote: »
    Before Season 11:
    -Don't discharge ANY ship that you can't immediately reclaim for free between now and Season 11
    Way too late for characters that have been around for years, as in since Open Beta. How valuable are lower tier ships in the admiralty system?
    They're weaker, but they can be used more often.
    welcome2earf wrote: »
    Is this a ploy to get us to buy more ship slots? Or do we simply commission the unused ship in an open slot, get the card, then decommission, rinse/repeat?
    The devs said its purpose was to give older inactive ships more of a purpose. Though I suppose there could be multiple reasons. I wouldn't call it a "ploy" though, as it's acknowledged that they do need to keep the game funded.
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    The lower tier ships seem particularly interesting if you expect to micro-manage more (which probably will net you more rewards overall) - they have lower maintenance times, that means you can use them more oftne. If you only got Tier 5 and Tier 6 ships available to you, you'll probably not be able to do that, because after they completed their mission they will require almost a day of maintenance.
    kamiyama317 wrote: »
    I was hoping we would use our actual spare ships for stuff. I was planning on getting them all their own sets and equipment because I thought it might give me an edge.

    Instead we get the card and scrap them. This just means people will be accumulating even more unused ships than ever before and throwing them away.

    Man think about how wasteful the Federation is:

    We destroy ships by the tens of thousands looking for that one rare purple loot drop
    We send millions of officers to their deaths in starbase grinders to make bricks to build our starbases
    Now we will be buying up ships by the hundreds of thousands and throwing them away once we get the commemorative trading card that comes with it.

    So much waste. Modern day Earth is better at resource management than the Federation.
    You're taking the game mechanics a bit too literal here. If you had the ship commissioned at least once, that means you can now send them off on Admiralty mission. If you retain them in your inventory, it just means that you have reserved the right to take command of the ship for yourself when you feel like it.​​
    That and we're not sending anyone to their death when we contribute our DOFFs to our fleets. We're merely assigning them to our starbases and holdings. Basically transferring personnel.
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  • littlesarbonnlittlesarbonn Member Posts: 486 Arc User
    Is there a number limit to the amount of Admiralty ships you can have? Not sure if I read that anywhere.
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    littlesarbonn wrote: »
    Is there a number limit to the amount of Admiralty ships you can have? Not sure if I read that anywhere.

    Far as I know there was no disclosed limit. Else they surely would've monitized it like DOFF limits and BOFF slots.
  • breadandcircusesbreadandcircuses Member Posts: 2,355 Arc User
    azurianstar wrote: »
    littlesarbonn wrote: »
    Is there a number limit to the amount of Admiralty ships you can have? Not sure if I read that anywhere.

    Far as I know there was no disclosed limit. Else they surely would've monitized it like DOFF limits and BOFF slots.

    That was answered by basically saying that there's no practical limit... in that the limit has been set to be higher than the maximum number of ships available per faction. The off the cuff number was 9,999 or something, but for all intents and purposes we can't actually reach that number. There was no direct monetization intended when Bort was answering questions, but indirect monetization by adding value to ships is present and intentional.
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  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    I'm going to prepare by not preparing. I used to collect ship's so I have quite a few so I'm not really worried. I'm really torn with this new system. I'm kind of excited to do "admiral" stuff, but at the same time it's just ship doffing and even with good rewards that sounds...boring. I'll reserve judgement of course, but my expectations are set pretty low.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    kamiyama317 wrote: »
    This is a list of Fed side tier 5 ships that don't cost dilithium or Zen. Everything can be purchases with EC or fleet credits (fleet modules can be purchased with EC).

    Can be bought straight from exchange

    Mirror Assault Cruiser
    Mirror Star Cruiser
    Mirror Heavy Cruiser Retrofit
    Mirror Battlecruiser
    Mirror Advanced Escort
    Mirror Patrol Escort
    Mirror Escort Retrofit
    Mirror Deep Space Science Vessel
    Mirror Reconnaissance Science Vessel
    Mirror Science Vessel Retrofit
    APU Cruiser
    Kazon Heavy Raider
    Malon Battlecruiser
    Nihydron Destroyer

    Can be bought from ship requisitions officer

    Rank 40 - One free standard tier 5 ship

    Obelisk Carrier - 2 fleet modules, 20000 fleet credits, tier 1 shipyard (costs two less fleet modules than a fleet ship)

    All fleet ships from the shipyard, including the Fleet Support Cruiser Retrofit (Ambassador class), cost 4 fleet modules and 20000 fleet credits as well as a tier 1 to 5 shipyard.

    If I missed any other tier 5 ships please let me know.
    There are also some fleet ships that can be bought for 200,000 FC and no ship modules.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    tinkerstorm wrote: »
    orangeitis wrote: »
    Before Season 11:
    -Don't discharge ANY ship that you can't immediately reclaim for free between now and Season 11
    Way too late for characters that have been around for years, as in since Open Beta. How valuable are lower tier ships in the admiralty system?
    A lot of them have useful abilities T1 and 2 usually have abilities for increasing crit odds.
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  • bioixibioixi Member Posts: 764 Arc User
    I made a list 1 month ago, prices might be outdated, but here are the ships you can buy from the exchange:

    Fed
    Mirror Universe Patrol Escort 2.2M
    Mirror Universe Deep Space Science Vessel 2.2M
    Mirror Universe Reconnaissance Science Vessel 2.2M
    Mirror Universe Assault Cruiser 2M
    Mirror Universe Star Cruiser 2.1M
    Mirror Universe Advanced Escort 2M
    Mirror Escort Retrofit 2M
    Mirror Universe Science Vessel Retrofit 2M
    Mirror Universe Heavy Cruiser Retrofit 4.4M

    Romulan

    Mirror Universe Mogai Heavy Warbird Retrofit 7M
    Mirror Universe Dhelan Warbird Retrofit 7M
    Mirror Universe T'varo Light Warbird Retrofit 3.25M
    Mirror Universe Ha'feh Assault Warbird 2.3M
    Mirror Universe Ha'nom Guardian Warbird 2M
    Mirror Universe Ha'apax Advanced Warbird 2M

    Klingon
    Mirror Universe Vo'Quv Carrier 4M
    Mirror Universe Vor'cha Battle Cruiser (Not available in exchange at the moment)
    Mirror Universe Negh'Var Heavy Battle Cruiser 11.4 M
    Mirror Universe Somraw Raptor Retrofit 8.5M
    Mirror Universe Qin Heavy Raptor 2.5M
    Mirror Universe Ki'tang Bird-of-Prey Retrofit 4.9M


    Other
    Kazon Heavy Raider 2.5M
    APU cruiser 1.5M
    Malon Battlecruiser 1.8M
    Nihydron Destroyer 2M
  • tinkerstormtinkerstorm Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    kamiyama317 wrote: »
    This is a list of Fed side tier 5 ships that don't cost dilithium or Zen. Everything can be purchases with EC or fleet credits (fleet modules can be purchased with EC).

    Can be bought straight from exchange

    Mirror Assault Cruiser
    Mirror Star Cruiser
    Mirror Heavy Cruiser Retrofit
    Mirror Battlecruiser
    Mirror Advanced Escort
    Mirror Patrol Escort
    Mirror Escort Retrofit
    Mirror Deep Space Science Vessel
    Mirror Reconnaissance Science Vessel
    Mirror Science Vessel Retrofit
    APU Cruiser
    Kazon Heavy Raider
    Malon Battlecruiser
    Nihydron Destroyer
    We can expect the exchange prices on those to skyrocket, if they have not already.
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    warpangel wrote: »
    There are also some fleet ships that can be bought for 200,000 FC and no ship modules.

    What tiers are these ships? And what rarity will they count as in the Admiralty system (as opposed to the kind that require ship modules)?

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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    gulberat wrote: »
    warpangel wrote: »
    There are also some fleet ships that can be bought for 200,000 FC and no ship modules.

    What tiers are these ships? And what rarity will they count as in the Admiralty system (as opposed to the kind that require ship modules)?

    T5. Don't know what their card rarity is, I don't have any tribble toons that are in a fleet.
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