Should the Kobali Samsar Cruiser be made available to players through the Lobi Store?

nungu83 · September 2015

Would be great to have this available for players who missed the anniversary event. We already have the Advanced Obelisk Carrier, Dyson Science Destroyer, etc.

artan42 · September 2015

Yes

Yes, as its console is part of a set.

shpoks · September 2015

Yes

artan42 wrote: »

Yes, as its console is part of a set.

^ Yes, for the same reason.

risian4 · September 2015

Yes

Yes, and I'd like to add that it should be an account unlock, like all the other event ships. Buy it on one character with lobi, unlock it for all your characters either in the event reputation store or some other way.

Or give us a chance to get it somewhere around February 2016.

timelord79 · September 2015

No

No for the ship. It's an anniversary event ship and should stay as such. But go ahead and put the console into the Lobi Store, will be cheaper than the whole ship that way anyway.

thunderfoot · September 2015

No

No. One of the things which MMOs probably have to offer is exclusives. Putting the Console in the Lobi Store would be a generous alternative, though. The Samsar is a teaser T6 ship offered for a limited time as a way for then current players to get a taste of them. I've got no problem with not having everything this game offers. People who purchased the Box version of this game have things I will never get. They purchased the Box version so they should get something to set them apart from the rest of us. Why? Because they earned it. In the same vein, people who have played this game from the begiining long before I arrived also have items I cannot get. Again they earned these items. Exclusivity isn't a bad thing. There shoud be items in this game which tell others you've paid your dues and put in your time.

I have the Samsar on three of my four characters. I played it enough to earn the Ship Trait and than parked it for the ships those chars have which I prefer. It is an okay ship but it really is just another tanky cruiser. Which having all four pieces of the Set makes more so.

risian4 · September 2015

Yes

thunderfoot006 wrote: »

No. One of the things which MMOs probably have to offer is exclusives. Putting the Console in the Lobi Store would be a generous alternative, though. The Samsar is a teaser T6 ship offered for a limited time as a way for then current players to get a taste of them. I've got no problem with not having everything this game offers. People who purchased the Box version of this game have things I will never get. They purchased the Box version so they should get something to set them apart from the rest of us. Why? Because they earned it. In the same vein, people who have played this game from the begiining long before I arrived also have items I cannot get. Again they earned these items. Exclusivity isn't a bad thing. There shoud be items in this game which tell others you've paid your dues and put in your time.

I have the Samsar on three of my four characters. I played it enough to earn the Ship Trait and than parked it for the ships those chars have which I prefer. It is an okay ship but it really is just another tanky cruiser. Which having all four pieces of the Set makes more so.

Yeah, but here we're talking about a ship that's part of a set. An expensive set I might add. The other 3 pieces of that set are obtained by paying 5000 zen for the Command cruisers. Besides, if they'd redo the event next year, people would still have to work for it to get it. Some people were just unlucky and couldn't play when they first did the event, is it fair that they're paying 5000 zen for a set that they have no chance of ever completing?

At the very least they should make the console obtainable in some way.

salazarraze · September 2015

No

No and the best part is that it won't be made available. The devs already said that they want more exclusivity for event items and that these items will not be available again.

nandospc · September 2015

Yes

Yes, absolutely.

nungu83 · September 2015

Yes

I certainly understand the allure of exclusive items, but doesn't it make better sense to fully separate the exclusive event ships/equipment from the mainstream story arc gear, rather than mixing them (like the Breen and Kobali sets in particular). At least with the Breen set, one has the hope of getting the Cryoplasma Warp Core in the next Q event. Why not make the Kobali Warp/Singularity Core and Regenerative Integrity Field console available in the same way? Keep the ship exclusive by all means. (Wish I'd added that third option in the poll now!)

thunderfoot · September 2015

No

"risian4 wrote: »

Yeah, but here we're talking about a ship that's part of a set. An expensive set I might add. The other 3 pieces of that set are obtained by paying 5000 zen for the Command cruisers. Besides, if they'd redo the event next year, people would still have to work for it to get it. Some people were just unlucky and couldn't play when they first did the event, is it fair that they're paying 5000 zen for a set that they have no chance of ever completing?

At the very least they should make the console obtainable in some way.

No one is required to purchase 5,000 Zen worth of items to play this game. All purchases are entirely optional. Based upon a player's wants. Which are not needs.

Luck has nothing to do with a player's available time to play this game, either.

Had you paid attention while reading my post you would have not overlooked the part where I wrote having the Console avaialble in the Lobi Store would be a generous alternative.

EDIT: One more thing - Seeing 5,000 Zen as expensive is a relative vierwpoint. While I am not a true whale, I do meet most of the criteria.

shpoks · September 2015

Yes

timelord79 wrote: »

No for the ship. It's an anniversary event ship and should stay as such. But go ahead and put the console into the Lobi Store, will be cheaper than the whole ship that way anyway.

thunderfoot006 wrote: »

No. One of the things which MMOs probably have to offer is exclusives. Putting the Console in the Lobi Store would be a generous alternative, though.

Like I said, yes - because of the console. I couldn't care less about the ugly necromancer ship, the less I see them in space the better.

However the console should be made purchasable with lobi at least, because people that missed the anniversary or new players that are considering getting the command cruisers will be put off by the fact that they can never complete the console set only because they joined or found out about the game later then others. And as we know - the majority of the STO playerbase are hopeless completionists, so having the command ships without the entire set would be a thorn in the eye to many people leading to them not purchasing those ships (which are completely awesome BTW) and not spending Zen just because of that.

I'm all for promotional/exclusive ships remaining limited and special in a way, but in this case either the complete ship or the console at the very least should be made available in the Lobi Store. Frankly, linking a console from a promotional and limited ship to a set of consoles from a cross-faction mega pack purchasable with real money from the Zen Store is right there among the Top 5 stupid things Cryptic has done in STO - I said that the first time I saw this back during the anniversary.

captainhunter1 · September 2015

Put the console in the C-store?

devilzaphan · September 2015

No

Agreed put the console in the lobi store.

lianthelia · September 2015

Not that I'm saying yes or no...but do people actually use the console? I thought the general consensus was to just run stat consoles and avoid on activation consoles like the plague...especially this big 3 and 4 piece sets?

I don't think I've ever seen anyone use those deployable platforms...

gradii · September 2015

Yes

As well as all lockbox and previous event rewards.

deleroux · September 2015

I missed my opportunity to get the Samsar. Don't have one. And I don't really care to see lobi become any more valuable than it already is. I want less content to come from lockboxes, not more.

cidjack · September 2015

No

Seriously, if a limited time only ship available and you don't spend the time to get it, you don't get it. It should not be turned into a Pay to play ship.

thatcursedwolf · September 2015

Yes

I got mine so I'm A-OK with others getting theirs.

I'm also all for a way for people to get the Risian ships.

Exclusivity for the sake of pointless exclusivity is pointless.

gradii · September 2015

Yes

thatcursedwolf wrote: »

I got mine so I'm A-OK with others getting theirs.

I'm also all for a way for people to get the Risian ships.

Exclusivity for the sake of pointless exclusivity is pointless.

1000 times this.

lizwei · September 2015

Yes

salazarraze wrote: »

No and the best part is that it won't be made available. The devs already said that they want more exclusivity for event items and that these items will not be available again.

It's real easy to play have and have not when you're the have right?

I am sick and tired of every MMO I play being polluted by immature children who want the shiny for themselves and only themselves, refusing to acknowledge that other people may not have been able to play during these events.

deleroux · September 2015

lizwei wrote: »

salazarraze wrote: »

No and the best part is that it won't be made available. The devs already said that they want more exclusivity for event items and that these items will not be available again.

It's real easy to play have and have not when you're the have right?

I am sick and tired of every MMO I play being polluted by immature children who want the shiny for themselves and only themselves, refusing to acknowledge that other people may not have been able to play during these events.

It doesn't really make a lot of sense from a development standpoint. I mean, I can understand the appeal of season/holiday events and rewards to encourage more play during those times. But to make them one-time only doesn't seem very efficient with the resources they claim to have to invest to produce a new ship asset. It makes more sense to bring that reward back annually to get more mileage out of it, and to get greater returns on the resources invested in it.

It'd be like spending a months of development on a series of story missions only to run them for a month and then remove them from the game forever, as opposed to recycling them to periodically generate interest for players. Why? Doesn't make any sense.

toiva · September 2015

Yes

The console should be available, they did it with the DSD, they should probably do the same with the Samsar.

(It doesn't really affect me personally, I've got it unlocked.)

winteranesti · September 2015

Yes

I say yes. If I was a new player looking at the command ships wanting to complete the set only to find out one piece is missing due to an event I missed based on bad timing on joining the game, I would loose interest in the set completely. That set has great eye candy fun and I bought the huge across all factions ship packs based on wanting to complete it for all my toons. Having to pay lobi for a ship to me to complete the set is penalty enough for new players who missed out the 1st time for free. This will also allow for the possibility of new sales on the ship packs which benefits Cryptic for being generous enough to allow players to play catch up due to timing. I also support allowing the anniversary missed ships to be account wide unlocks. What makes STO great is having the ability of an alternative way of getting things if you missed it the first time. I am against being exclusive. I too unlocked this and many other ships across my account. I wouldn't mind others getting the same opportunity.

monkeybone13 · September 2015

Yes

Because I'm not a stuck up elitist selfish prick that only cares about my own enjoyment of the game.

I'd rather see other people enjoy something that I have, then be the only one that has it. It's no fun when other people are sad because they can't get something that I have.

As others have pointed out, the console that comes with the Kobali Samsar is part of the set that comes with the Command Battlecruisers in the c-store, and there are 3 of those ships per faction. It also comes with the warp/singularity core that goes with the set you get from that 1 episode. Not allowing people to get the console means they'll never be able to complete either equipment set, for those who didn't get the ship during the event.

They did put the Dyson Science Destroyer from the 4th anniversary in the lobi store so you can complete the set that goes with the Dyson ships in the c-store as well as the set you get from that 1 story episode. I don't understand why they've completely ignored the Samsar. They could at least put it in the lobi store.

cidjack · September 2015

No

As this thread current opinion is that "everything should be available to everyone at all times" lets not forget all the other items that players can no longer obtain, that have had zero threads asking for it:

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Phoenix

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Fleet_Tribble

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Ophidian_Cane

Let me another point, You didn't play during the time it was available, so you did not earn it during that time. What makes you so special to recieve it now?

seaofsorrows · September 2015

No

No.

Event ships should be special, once they window closes they should be gone.

They should put the console in the Lobi store, but not the ship. Honestly, who would pay 900 Lobi for a Samsar anyway?

asuran14 · September 2015

I am not sure on making the event ship availible, but maybe they coud add the console to either to the lobi-store or add it as a reward from the episode "Dust to Dust" making it availible to the players that want it to complete the command-battlecruiser set. Though i could and wouold not mind if they put a upgraded version of the Kobali event ship like a dreadnaught or flight-deck carrier version that has the console along with a additional new console/weapon/hanger-pet. This way even those that got the event ship would be tempted to buy it in the lobi-store.

rattler2 · September 2015

Yes

lianthelia wrote: »

Not that I'm saying yes or no...but do people actually use the console? I thought the general consensus was to just run stat consoles and avoid on activation consoles like the plague...especially this big 3 and 4 piece sets?

I don't think I've ever seen anyone use those deployable platforms...

The console is a pretty nice heal on any ship. Slap one on an escort and it can be a lifesaver. Saved my butt plenty of times. Also most of the new ship consoles are coming out with passives as well as activatable abilities. Don't know if the Samsar's console has that or not right off the top of my head.

As for my standpoint. The Kobali ship not only comes with that console, but the Kobali Warp Core as well. So I say come up with some way for people to complete the Kobali set as well as the console set.

asuran14 · September 2015

I kinda like the platforms consoles and they do have passive bonuses alongside their activate ability, and the set bonus. Where the Kobali/Regenerative intergerity field console it has a hull healing buff passive on it, and also a the damage converting to high hull heal active ability too. My only thing that makes me feel the Kobali console alittle less than great is that the other console set pieces are only usable on the command battlecruisers, if they allowed the platform consoles to be used on atleast the kobali samar as well (i would not mind being able to use tham on my galaxy or a command-cruiser varient of the Galaxy).

starswordc · September 2015

Yes

They made the Obelisk and free Dyson available, why should the Zombie Meat Wagon be any different?

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