Should the Kobali Samsar Cruiser be made available to players through the Lobi Store?
Available: Yes
Lobi Store: No
I'd not call the lobi store making a ship 'available'. How much real $ does it take to get 800-1000 lobi? (Shut up w/ your "but I can get keys off the Exchange". Someone had to buy them; if not you.) Lobi ships are insanely priced when you do the math vs C-store. And you only get 1 of them not it unlocked for all your toons on the account.
Be better off making them C-store after awhile (6-12 months) or, God forbid!, via dilithium. You miss the event you can get it eventually, assuming you'd want it a year later when it's been over-shadowed by everything released since then.
Hell, if I remember right, the Kobali Cruiser wasn't even 'new' anymore before the event was even done! Cryptic released a new set of C-store ships a week before the normal player even finished the event!
Whats so great about it when you can get it for free?
Not so much the ship. The console offers a very good heal and can be used on any ship. When combined with another Command Cruiser console it also gives a set bonus that's like an extra RCS / turn console.
I don't think it should be, at least not unless they put all the Breen and Risian (including the Nandi) ships into the Lobi store as well.
I don't actually know why the Obelisk and Dyson got special treatment. Maybe because the anniversary event doesn't run as long as the other ones? Still, I think all event ships should be treated the same.
I'm undecided on whether its console (or even warp/singularity core) should be put in the Lobi store. It is part of a set, but there are other sets that have some pieces locked away, like the Breen Warp/Singularity core, even though the rest of the pieces for the Breen equipment set are from episode rewards.
I think that there should be equal treatment of all event ships, whether they be summer, winter, or anniversary ships. If they want to put them all in the Lobi store, I would be happy with that too, but I don't think any one event ship (or two or three) should be singled out for special treatment.
I'm annoyed that I'd like to use the complete Breen set on my Delta Recruits, but they were timed to be created AFTER we were able to get some of the good things...like the Samsar, etc.
As expected, those who already have the ship don't want anyone else to even have access to it.
I don't have the ship and I don't care about getting it. My problem is, Cryptic made 3/4 of a set available through a mission I did later on. Nowhere was stated that the last part was unobtainable, and I have no way of ever completing it (I believed it would be a reward on a subsequent mission). I discovered that only by searching the forums/wiki, so I feel kind of tricked.
It's part of a set so yes the console at least should be made available and warp core as well. If you already have the ship why does it matter if someone else is able to get the ship later on? You still got yours for free, still got it during the event, and still can say you were one of the people there that got it during the anniversary. I fail to see in what way it hurts in still allowing people access to the complete set save by not allowing people the ego boost of rubbing something exclusive in other people's faces.
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I'm annoyed that I'd like to use the complete Breen set on my Delta Recruits, but they were timed to be created AFTER we were able to get some of the good things...like the Samsar, etc.
You can claim them from the event store (which shouldn't need to be unlocked with the one token turn in mission for this purpose) in the Event tab under Reputations as long as one captain on the account had unlocked them.
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As expected, those who already have the ship don't want anyone else to even have access to it.
I don't have the ship and I don't care about getting it. My problem is, Cryptic made 3/4 of a set available through a mission I did later on. Nowhere was stated that the last part was unobtainable, and I have no way of ever completing it (I believed it would be a reward on a subsequent mission). I discovered that only by searching the forums/wiki, so I feel kind of tricked.
They did this with the other exclusive Warp Cores but put them behind $250 pay walls instead.
FYI - For all those complaining about Breen warp core and event ships they already own, but not on Delta recruit. You can get those in the event store. Just unlock it on your newer toons when the Winter event comes in about 2 months.
FYI - For all those complaining about Breen warp core and event ships they already own, but not on Delta recruit. You can get those in the event store. Just unlock it on your newer toons when the Winter event comes in about 2 months.
That should be fixed now. You should just be able to view the Event Store and claim any available ships.
Exclusivity never made much sense in these digital worlds. It's time and effort that will eventually fade as new things replace them. Then no one sees them unless it's an "I've been here since..." conversation.
Special or first release versions I get, but after that they should be available in some fashion, especially if they are part of a set.
In the real world I get it craftsmen move on, material/techniques change but these are just data.
Well, they never specifically said they will put it on the lobi store but the general consensus was that they will put it on eventually.
I have access to it but I wouldn't mind giving newer players the possibility to access it. It's a T6 ship it would be good for the admiralty thingy.
I don't think it should be, at least not unless they put all the Breen and Risian (including the Nandi) ships into the Lobi store as well.
I don't actually know why the Obelisk and Dyson got special treatment. Maybe because the anniversary event doesn't run as long as the other ones? Still, I think all event ships should be treated the same.
I'm undecided on whether its console (or even warp/singularity core) should be put in the Lobi store. It is part of a set, but there are other sets that have some pieces locked away, like the Breen Warp/Singularity core, even though the rest of the pieces for the Breen equipment set are from episode rewards.
I think that there should be equal treatment of all event ships, whether they be summer, winter, or anniversary ships. If they want to put them all in the Lobi store, I would be happy with that too, but I don't think any one event ship (or two or three) should be singled out for special treatment.
On your "all event ships need to be treated the same" aspect:
Do keep in mind that most of the "anniversary" ships prior to Salami becoming our EP - specifically Oddy/Bortasq', T5 Ambassador, and Obelisk were rewards for running a specific mission once. All of these ships are available in one way, shape, or form at a fleet shipyard.
The remaining "anniversary" ship, the DSD, was placed behind a "summer/winter event-esque" grind (albeit with a 400 token bonus with the first running of the event mission) making it a 15 day grind to acquire. To place "value" to this 15 day grind, it was elected to put the event DSD behind a lobi paywall if you elected to not complete the grind.
Prior to Salami's induction as EP, all "summer / winter" grind ships could be reslotted in subsequent events allowing those who missed out the first time a second chance at getting it - eventually even getting made into "grind 25 runs on one character, then future characters / alts could get the ship with but one day's race".
SalamiInferno is the EP who's "reintroducing" "miss event, miss out". However, he's also addressed the perennial "what about my future alts" cry with the "event reclamation store". He's also the EP who "removed" the ability to slot previous year summer/winter event ships, and has so far given us at least one summer event to complete any outstanding projects, and is probably going to do so with this upcoming winter event. Do also note that this year's Ferengi console links to a "rare" lockbox ship, not to a previous set.
As to Salami's plans to give "newer players" access to the "event component" of the Breen "mission reward" set (aka the Saar'Then's console) and/or the Kobali Samsar parts necessary for the Command Cruiser set(s) - well, we haven't heard and therefore threads like this are created.
Personally, I'd say precedent was set with the DSD and the Samsar's "C-store set completion needs" deserves some sort of access via the Lobi store - whether it's just the component(s) or the entire ship is made available on the C-store. As to the Breen component, we don't know if it'll join the "winter event store" as a purchasable thing, if we're going to have one last chance to slot the project for it, or if it will remain forever out of the hands of those who didn't at least slot the Saar'Theln last year...
Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...
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As someone who owns one I could't care less about exclusivity if someone needs the console for the set.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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"As someone who owns one I could't care less about exclusivity if someone needs the console for the set"
. . . then they should have gotten it while it was available.
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Im getting the impression most of the 'no's are people who are stingy and think that somehow those consoles make them special snowflakes.
This is seriously the only reason to say no.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Im getting the impression most of the 'no's are people who are stingy and think that somehow those consoles make them special snowflakes.
And you would be incorrect.
What exactly is wrong with people wanting to earn something special or unique? You assume that this is their way of saying they're somehow better then others, but you couldn't be further from the truth. When event ships are limited time offerings, it makes them more special, it makes the items unique and worth getting. Just because people want to earn something special or unique doesn't mean it's just about flaunting it in front of others.
In this case, the problem is that the console is part of a set that players can't complete. While I personally, would like to see the Samsar console available as a mission reward for 'Dust to Dust,' it would also be acceptable to make the console a lobi item.
In order to preserve the unique nature and appeal of the ship, I personally would prefer to see the ship not be available again. Call me 'stingy' and throw your petty insults if it makes you feel better, but it's not about that and never has been. The console needs to be available, the ship does not.
If the event ships are that important to you, do the events.
If people knew that these limited time only items would be given away or sold in the future, just how many people would actually participate in said events? For one, I wouldn't unless it was a shiny that I would consider a "must have".
People have put out the time and effort to earn these limited time only awards. Exclusivity is their right for that reason. If people who didn't participate get their way and get that same access, it undermines the very definition of limited time and sets a dangerous precedent.
Taking it to the extreme here, but what's next? Do people at L60 and T5 rep across the board have to stop playing those characters until someone who complains get to L60 and has T5 rep across the board too? Will we lose our Shard of Possibilities since nobody else is able to get it?
I am all for a replay of the events in the future but am definitely against catering to those who complain about not getting the shiney because they were either not playing the game at the time or were simply too damn lazy to earn things the same way other players did.
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If people knew that these limited time only items would be given away or sold in the future, just how many people would actually participate in said events? For one, I wouldn't unless it was a shiny that I would consider a "must have".
People have put out the time and effort to earn these limited time only awards. Exclusivity is their right for that reason. If people who didn't participate get their way and get that same access, it undermines the very definition of limited time and sets a dangerous precedent.
Taking it to the extreme here, but what's next? Do people at L60 and T5 rep across the board have to stop playing those characters until someone who complains get to L60 and has T5 rep across the board too? Will we lose our Shard of Possibilities since nobody else is able to get it?
I am all for a replay of the events in the future but am definitely against catering to those who complain about not getting the shiney because they were either not playing the game at the time or were simply too damn lazy to earn things the same way other players did.
What if you only join the game after said event? Someone might have because they heard about this fantastic ship you could play, etc.
NO! If you were to lazy to earn the ship by doing the event tough! I'm sick of these cry babies going whaaa whaaa "I missed the event because (enter lame reason here) I want what the players who did the event have without having to do the event or make an effort." Is the concept of "Limeted Time Offer, Limeted Edtion, Event items are available only by completeing the event." beyond your grasp?
You lazy whales think you can just buy anything. I'm laughing at you. You spoiled lazy whales can't buy these because you are to lazy to take 10 minutes a day for 10 days to earn an item and unlock it on your account. Stop whining man up and take responsibility that you were to lazy to earn something. Stop thinking everyone should have everything handed to them with no effort on the receivers part.
No and the best part is that it won't be made available. The devs already said that they want more exclusivity for event items and that these items will not be available again.
It's real easy to play have and have not when you're the have right?
I am sick and tired of every MMO I play being polluted by immature children who want the shiny for themselves and only themselves, refusing to acknowledge that other people may not have been able to play during these events.
Guy I am not an elitest BUT I am sick of players like you and the OP who think they deserve what others have worked hard for either by grinding an episode arc or buy taking 10 minutes a day for 10 days to earn an item. Even more so when I see these whiners post hundreds and hundreds of remarks in the forums. The time people like you take to post is time you could use to do the event. But no you sit read the threads and type and post for well over 10 minutes , 10 minutes that you could have used to run the event and earn the ship. But hey doing nothing and getting rewards is the ideal way isn't it? Seems the phrase working for something evades you.
As I said earlier, I am all for replays of these limited availability events. Personally, I am against Cryptic putting set pieces into these events, but I understand why they do it.
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Yes. It's fine and dandy to give some things for free during an event or promotion... but don't restrict new players from getting things. Let them buy them at the very least.
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The outfit should definitaly added for players to get, as for the ship, they could put it in the lobi store but it would probaly be the same price as the other 800/900 lobi ships
I can't imagine why anyone would really be against making previous ships accessible to other people. What does someone else having the opportunity to earn a ship have to do with you? You must think it has something to do with you to suggest that these players should be denied that opportunity and access to the ship(s) in question. No one is taking anything away from you by making these ships accessible again, even if you already have the ship. So what is the big deal, exactly? You're affected in virtually no way at all by letting others have another (or in many cases, a first) opportunity to acquire the ship(s).
Moreover, it's a complete and functional game asset that isn't even being allowed to realize its full potential as a draw to players so long as its kept inaccessible. Additional benefit to the game and the developers is being denied by keeping the asset inaccessible, and that doesn't make a lot of sense when it could be used to generate interest, participation, activity, and perhaps even revenue (directly or indirectly).
I'm not much of a fan of the lobi store in general, due to its relation to lockboxes, but this attitude of absolute exclusivity is rather absurd.
I totally agree it should be put atleast in the LOBI or Buy it. It makes no sense to have these 3 ships the Presidio, Concorde, Geneva & part of the console is missing? How is that fair to new players who buy these 3 new ships? What about the players who missed it? I think it is misleading & cheating a person out of his/her money because they are not getting the full package it is just plain wrong. Why buy the 3 ships if you can not get the entire package? 99% ooooooop's sorry you can not get the Universal – Regenerative Integrity Field & the Kobli Warp Cores. Why? Because it is a one time deal? Well that is plain business stupid! I have the Presidio but not even getting the other 2 just pointless if I can not have the entire package. I can only suggest STO players to petition this very hard...
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Not so much the ship. The console offers a very good heal and can be used on any ship. When combined with another Command Cruiser console it also gives a set bonus that's like an extra RCS / turn console.
I don't actually know why the Obelisk and Dyson got special treatment. Maybe because the anniversary event doesn't run as long as the other ones? Still, I think all event ships should be treated the same.
I'm undecided on whether its console (or even warp/singularity core) should be put in the Lobi store. It is part of a set, but there are other sets that have some pieces locked away, like the Breen Warp/Singularity core, even though the rest of the pieces for the Breen equipment set are from episode rewards.
I think that there should be equal treatment of all event ships, whether they be summer, winter, or anniversary ships. If they want to put them all in the Lobi store, I would be happy with that too, but I don't think any one event ship (or two or three) should be singled out for special treatment.
I don't have the ship and I don't care about getting it. My problem is, Cryptic made 3/4 of a set available through a mission I did later on. Nowhere was stated that the last part was unobtainable, and I have no way of ever completing it (I believed it would be a reward on a subsequent mission). I discovered that only by searching the forums/wiki, so I feel kind of tricked.
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You can claim them from the event store (which shouldn't need to be unlocked with the one token turn in mission for this purpose) in the Event tab under Reputations as long as one captain on the account had unlocked them.
They did this with the other exclusive Warp Cores but put them behind $250 pay walls instead.
That should be fixed now. You should just be able to view the Event Store and claim any available ships.
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Special or first release versions I get, but after that they should be available in some fashion, especially if they are part of a set.
In the real world I get it craftsmen move on, material/techniques change but these are just data.
I have access to it but I wouldn't mind giving newer players the possibility to access it. It's a T6 ship it would be good for the admiralty thingy.
On your "all event ships need to be treated the same" aspect:
Do keep in mind that most of the "anniversary" ships prior to Salami becoming our EP - specifically Oddy/Bortasq', T5 Ambassador, and Obelisk were rewards for running a specific mission once. All of these ships are available in one way, shape, or form at a fleet shipyard.
The remaining "anniversary" ship, the DSD, was placed behind a "summer/winter event-esque" grind (albeit with a 400 token bonus with the first running of the event mission) making it a 15 day grind to acquire. To place "value" to this 15 day grind, it was elected to put the event DSD behind a lobi paywall if you elected to not complete the grind.
Prior to Salami's induction as EP, all "summer / winter" grind ships could be reslotted in subsequent events allowing those who missed out the first time a second chance at getting it - eventually even getting made into "grind 25 runs on one character, then future characters / alts could get the ship with but one day's race".
SalamiInferno is the EP who's "reintroducing" "miss event, miss out". However, he's also addressed the perennial "what about my future alts" cry with the "event reclamation store". He's also the EP who "removed" the ability to slot previous year summer/winter event ships, and has so far given us at least one summer event to complete any outstanding projects, and is probably going to do so with this upcoming winter event. Do also note that this year's Ferengi console links to a "rare" lockbox ship, not to a previous set.
As to Salami's plans to give "newer players" access to the "event component" of the Breen "mission reward" set (aka the Saar'Then's console) and/or the Kobali Samsar parts necessary for the Command Cruiser set(s) - well, we haven't heard and therefore threads like this are created.
Personally, I'd say precedent was set with the DSD and the Samsar's "C-store set completion needs" deserves some sort of access via the Lobi store - whether it's just the component(s) or the entire ship is made available on the C-store. As to the Breen component, we don't know if it'll join the "winter event store" as a purchasable thing, if we're going to have one last chance to slot the project for it, or if it will remain forever out of the hands of those who didn't at least slot the Saar'Theln last year...
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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. . . then they should have gotten it while it was available.
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I love the way you think...
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
This is seriously the only reason to say no.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
And you would be incorrect.
What exactly is wrong with people wanting to earn something special or unique? You assume that this is their way of saying they're somehow better then others, but you couldn't be further from the truth. When event ships are limited time offerings, it makes them more special, it makes the items unique and worth getting. Just because people want to earn something special or unique doesn't mean it's just about flaunting it in front of others.
In this case, the problem is that the console is part of a set that players can't complete. While I personally, would like to see the Samsar console available as a mission reward for 'Dust to Dust,' it would also be acceptable to make the console a lobi item.
In order to preserve the unique nature and appeal of the ship, I personally would prefer to see the ship not be available again. Call me 'stingy' and throw your petty insults if it makes you feel better, but it's not about that and never has been. The console needs to be available, the ship does not.
If the event ships are that important to you, do the events.
People have put out the time and effort to earn these limited time only awards. Exclusivity is their right for that reason. If people who didn't participate get their way and get that same access, it undermines the very definition of limited time and sets a dangerous precedent.
Taking it to the extreme here, but what's next? Do people at L60 and T5 rep across the board have to stop playing those characters until someone who complains get to L60 and has T5 rep across the board too? Will we lose our Shard of Possibilities since nobody else is able to get it?
I am all for a replay of the events in the future but am definitely against catering to those who complain about not getting the shiney because they were either not playing the game at the time or were simply too damn lazy to earn things the same way other players did.
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What if you only join the game after said event? Someone might have because they heard about this fantastic ship you could play, etc.
Samsar is a lobi level ship so it will never be available in C-store.
You lazy whales think you can just buy anything. I'm laughing at you. You spoiled lazy whales can't buy these because you are to lazy to take 10 minutes a day for 10 days to earn an item and unlock it on your account. Stop whining man up and take responsibility that you were to lazy to earn something. Stop thinking everyone should have everything handed to them with no effort on the receivers part.
Guy I am not an elitest BUT I am sick of players like you and the OP who think they deserve what others have worked hard for either by grinding an episode arc or buy taking 10 minutes a day for 10 days to earn an item. Even more so when I see these whiners post hundreds and hundreds of remarks in the forums. The time people like you take to post is time you could use to do the event. But no you sit read the threads and type and post for well over 10 minutes , 10 minutes that you could have used to run the event and earn the ship. But hey doing nothing and getting rewards is the ideal way isn't it? Seems the phrase working for something evades you.
As I said earlier, I am all for replays of these limited availability events. Personally, I am against Cryptic putting set pieces into these events, but I understand why they do it.
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Moreover, it's a complete and functional game asset that isn't even being allowed to realize its full potential as a draw to players so long as its kept inaccessible. Additional benefit to the game and the developers is being denied by keeping the asset inaccessible, and that doesn't make a lot of sense when it could be used to generate interest, participation, activity, and perhaps even revenue (directly or indirectly).
I'm not much of a fan of the lobi store in general, due to its relation to lockboxes, but this attitude of absolute exclusivity is rather absurd.