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Cardassian faction

crzymn45crzymn45 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I dont know if this has been said already so here goes: during the mission ancient blood the talk about the best commanders from the rom, kling, fed, allaince yet their is a cardasian commander there as well. there are a few cardasian ships at the final battle at earth. coming with the new season there is a revamp of the cardasian struggle and they are changing the npc cardasians to look better. didnt they do the same with the npc roms before they added the republic?

I think this may be leading up to a new faction. thoughts?
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  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    Maybe only if it was a full faction, not some half baked faction that is associed with feds or kdfs. But that is unlikely.
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  • tsiretsire Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    It could be very possible, considering so many people have been asking/demanding to play the cardassians. My hope is that they give them the same treatment that they did for the romulans...with the exception of having to choose between the feds and the kdf, I would like a third option...to just have cardassia stand on its own. It would be nice to see other species/civilizations that are allied with the feds or kdf but are pursuing their own agenda.
  • crzymn45crzymn45 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    I agree with both of you. and considering the iconians didnt kill their homeworld I dont see how they can make you go with a fed/kling choice
  • crzymn45crzymn45 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    I just realized that due to their tactics cardasians would very likley have a more engi-sci oriented ships. unless I am looking at this wrong.
  • shrimphead2015shrimphead2015 Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    I think the Cardassians would be a a very interesting faction to add to the game . Just to see their homeworld in detail and to get their unique story would be enough for me. I just hope it is not an aligned faction, I think that was a mistake with the Romulan faction but since the cat is out of the bag I guess we are stuck with that for now. If they had to have a split with the Cardassian faction at least have it a True Way segment and a "Republic" segment but keep it local and no "Kanye" consoles please (sorry , I couldn't resist)!
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    Oooohhh boy, am I beginning to wish for the "we wantz cardazzians" posts to be included into the FCT...
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  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    With how the Dominion left their homeworld an systems, along with fall of their regime they might have the same issue, not enough of a force or base to be really a stand alone faction. Also with how few the options for other races an ships within the faction, look at roms for this they are very limited with race choices an ship choices, that it might not be as appealing in the end. I think they would need to form several other races into somewhat of a unified alaince with the cardassians leading the way (mayybe against a new dominion spear-head) to give more depth an range to the faction.
  • bioixibioixi Member Posts: 764 Arc User
    asuran14 wrote: »
    With how the Dominion left their homeworld an systems, along with fall of their regime they might have the same issue, not enough of a force or base to be really a stand alone faction. Also with how few the options for other races an ships within the faction, look at roms for this they are very limited with race choices an ship choices, that it might not be as appealing in the end. I think they would need to form several other races into somewhat of a unified alaince with the cardassians leading the way (mayybe against a new dominion spear-head) to give more depth an range to the faction.

    That was 35 years ago, they had more time to rebuild than the Romulans.

    About species: Cardassian, alpha Vorta and Alpha Jem'hadars (the game says they are employed by the Cardassians as mercenaries and security guards), Lissepians and Xepolites are Cardassian trade partners, and there are a few other alpha quadrant species that can be added to the Cardassian Union, Lurians for example and many other STO species.

    About ships, that might be a problem, there are only 3 canon Cardassian ships, Romulans have this problem as well since there are only 3 named canon Romulan ship classes (the D'deridex, the Scimitar and the Valdore), that means devs will need to be super-creative or will have to make Cardassians as another minifaction (which sounds more reasonable).
  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    Some sort of Cardassian faction is inevitable. Unfortunately, it will probably *not* be a full faction, and will be forced to ally with the Feds or KDF like the Roms.
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  • crzymn45crzymn45 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    they could also take a minimalist approach to what they did with the roms.
  • sle1989sle1989 Member Posts: 552 Arc User
    They are revamping the Cardassian missions, I believe it is simply attached to that. We may also be getting an updated Cardassian Lockbox (That's pure speculation on my part, haven't heard anything official on that).
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  • crzymn45crzymn45 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    all i am doing is speculation as well. i am just saying that there are some similarities between this and what they did for the rom missions.
  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    Issue with the Minimalist approach is that many did not like the approach, as well as lead to it being so minor ship an race choice wise that almost would have been better to roll them into other factions kinda. With the Cardassians it is even worse really as are they going to either one open the dominion ships to the cardassian faction or make new Alpha dominion ships just for the cardassian/jem'hadar faction? Where as they could put those into a lock box without the hassle. This is why i think a multi-race faction of several more known races allying with the cardassians would make sense to give them more veriety, and also keep them from the welfare ship choices of rom faction, in that the roms choices of ships are inflated by non-rom faction ships.

    For the lockboxes i could see them using updated dominion, cardassian, and then one or two new boxes for the season. It is just the limited number of true ships of those groups we know exist in the series. I mean if you look at Midnight episode we see them bring out a new Jem'hadar battleship design that was not used before.
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    I would rather just be able to give my Fed-Cardassian a true Cardassian uniform. After all that I've done with him over the years, I don't want to reroll him.

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  • crzymn45crzymn45 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    or they could just get creative and actually flesh out their ships. they dont have the "they are all warbirds" excuse that they had with romulans.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    anazonda wrote: »
    Oooohhh boy, am I beginning to wish for the "we wantz cardazzians" posts to be included into the FCT...

    ^this... seriously
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  • kirimuffinkirimuffin Member Posts: 695 Arc User
    thegrandnagus1 wrote: »
    Some sort of Cardassian faction is inevitable. Unfortunately, it will probably *not* be a full faction, and will be forced to ally with the Feds or KDF like the Roms.

    If it was a full faction, Rom players (myself included) would be angry that they didn't go back and do the same with the Romulans. So, they probably won't.

    'Sides, I still rather like the idea of having an account-wide Leech on my Cardies...
  • avengerkid1993avengerkid1993 Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    A Cardassian faction would be great, but there's a problem: devs already released the Galor-class as a lockbox ship. The same is for the Dominion ships (that could be used by cardassians - it would be logical that they still have some projects in shipyards).

    I hope to see the cardassian faction as soon as possible, but i don't think to see it very soon :(
  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    avengerkid1993 wrote: »
    A Cardassian faction would be great, but there's a problem: devs already released the Galor-class as a lockbox ship. The same is for the Dominion ships (that could be used by cardassians - it would be logical that they still have some projects in shipyards).

    I hope to see the cardassian faction as soon as possible, but i don't think to see it very soon :(

    The lock box Galor means nothing. All they have to do is give the lockbox version some unique console or gear or ability that you would never be able to get from the standard Galor.
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  • mayito2009mayito2009 Member Posts: 643 Arc User
    2 years back we asked for new faction and still 2 years later we are in the same place, so dont keep the fire burning it may never come to pass.
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  • farshorefarshore Member Posts: 353 Arc User
    thegrandnagus1 wrote: »
    avengerkid1993 wrote: »
    A Cardassian faction would be great, but there's a problem: devs already released the Galor-class as a lockbox ship. The same is for the Dominion ships (that could be used by cardassians - it would be logical that they still have some projects in shipyards).

    I hope to see the cardassian faction as soon as possible, but i don't think to see it very soon :(

    The lock box Galor means nothing. All they have to do is give the lockbox version some unique console or gear or ability that you would never be able to get from the standard Galor.

    Like Spiralwave Phasers? The Lockbox Galor has Fleet T5U baked into it. It also works with Dominion ship consoles. A T4 or T5 Galor would be no different than the Galaxy and Sovereign class ships we get free while leveling.
  • xayssxayss Member Posts: 391 Arc User
    i remeber happend the same with romualns caps they revamp and fact.......
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  • kitsunesnoutkitsunesnout Member Posts: 1,210 Arc User
    I think another fraction at this point would stretch development too thin when you look at how hard it is already for them to keep the KDF and Romulans up to date with new ships alongside the federation which gets the most attention, they should just be a playable species added to existing factions and include their ships in the store occasionally and call it a day, but we could certainly have an adventure zone on Cardassia perhaps.
  • mayito2009mayito2009 Member Posts: 643 Arc User
    kitsunesnout wrote: »
    I think another fraction at this point would stretch development too thin when you look at how hard it is already for them to keep the KDF and Romulans up to date with new ships alongside the federation which gets the most attention, they should just be a playable species added to existing factions and include their ships in the store occasionally and call it a day, but we could certainly have an adventure zone on Cardassia perhaps.

    I agree with that, make more playable races without the whole story changes, maybe an episode that will unlock a new race, with homeworld etc maybe 3 ships plus a small craft for each playable race.
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  • crzymn45crzymn45 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    i would rather have the faction. but thats me.
  • mvp333mvp333 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    dalnar83 wrote: »
    Maybe only if it was a full faction, not some half baked faction that is associed with feds or kdfs. But that is unlikely.

    It has been explained several times why something like that would make no sense... Cardassia isn't strong enough to constitute its own full faction. If anything, the Cardassian Union is one of the minor powers that should have actually gotten the treatment that the RR did; unlike the Romulans it didn't take a bunch of silliness to explain why they're essentially a subfaction. The Romulans, on the other hand, should at least get their own fleets/starbases somehow and a bunch more ships, which would make for a nice .5 update.
  • crzymn45crzymn45 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    but the cardasians still have their homeworld. so they could tie in fed and kling by saying join the fed in they give great tech or tech deal with kling and stay independant.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    crzymn45 wrote: »
    but the cardasians still have their homeworld. so they could tie in fed and kling by saying join the fed in they give great tech or tech deal with kling and stay independant.

    Except, STO lore is pretty clear on the fact that they are already aligned with the federation, depending on them for defense... so...
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • farshorefarshore Member Posts: 353 Arc User
    anazonda wrote: »
    crzymn45 wrote: »
    but the cardasians still have their homeworld. so they could tie in fed and kling by saying join the fed in they give great tech or tech deal with kling and stay independant.

    Except, STO lore is pretty clear on the fact that they are already aligned with the federation, depending on them for defense... so...

    As of the end of the Iconian war, the Alliance are in no shape to be of help to anyone. Not only were their fleets utterly decimated, but many of their worlds were destroyed. Hundreds of billions of people are dead, and they're basically lucky to still have their homeworlds. As such, the Cardasians could make a strong case for rebuilding their own military, and approaching the Federation/Alliance as equals.
  • crzymn45crzymn45 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    farshore wrote: »
    anazonda wrote: »
    crzymn45 wrote: »
    but the cardasians still have their homeworld. so they could tie in fed and kling by saying join the fed in they give great tech or tech deal with kling and stay independant.

    Except, STO lore is pretty clear on the fact that they are already aligned with the federation, depending on them for defense... so...

    As of the end of the Iconian war, the Alliance are in no shape to be of help to anyone. Not only were their fleets utterly decimated, but many of their worlds were destroyed. Hundreds of billions of people are dead, and they're basically lucky to still have their homeworlds. As such, the Cardasians could make a strong case for rebuilding their own military, and approaching the Federation/Alliance as equals.
    this.
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