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New R&D Jem'hadar ship guaranteed with purchase of pack?
captainhunter1
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As per the title, is the new Jem'hadar ship(s) guaranteed with purchase of the R&D pack?
The wording from both blogs so far about it seem to say that. Here's the latest one:
When you purchase a Research and Development Pack from the C-Store and open it, you will receive either 10 Lobi Crystals or a choice of either the Jem’Hadar Strike Ship or the Jem’Hadar Recon Ship, in addition to the Research and Development Pack. https://arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9527423
It doesn't say CHANCE of getting, it says CHOICE.
I'm pretty sure this isn't what they meant (from the history of lockboxes and packs), but they really need to clarify it before the do-do hits the fan over it.
The wording from both blogs so far about it seem to say that. Here's the latest one:
When you purchase a Research and Development Pack from the C-Store and open it, you will receive either 10 Lobi Crystals or a choice of either the Jem’Hadar Strike Ship or the Jem’Hadar Recon Ship, in addition to the Research and Development Pack. https://arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9527423
It doesn't say CHANCE of getting, it says CHOICE.
I'm pretty sure this isn't what they meant (from the history of lockboxes and packs), but they really need to clarify it before the do-do hits the fan over it.
My consolidated list of game improvements for STO:
arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
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But it's not entirely inaccurate.
Anyway its been like that for a long time now.
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This is exactly what I'm talking about.
It's very ambiguous. It's like you can either take the Lobi OR your choice of one of the two ships.
They should have worded it as, "...you will receive either 10 Lobi Crystals or A CHANCE at a choice of either the Jem’Hadar Strike Ship or the Jem’Hadar Recon Ship."
arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
Yeah, some 99 times more likely
No, the way they worded it is fine. You get either X or a choice between Y and Z. The choice between Y and Z being the big prize. Your alteration doesn't reflect what you get. Yours is you either get X or a chance at a choice between Y and Z, and that isn't how it works with these. If you don't get the ship choice box, you get 10 Lobi as a consolation prize.
That's really not ambiguous. I'm not saying that Cryptic/PWE doesn't botch the English language (they seem to hate the hyphen, for example)... this is not one of those cases.
The usage of "or" tells you that you will get either one, or the other... not both. The usage of "You will receive..." indicates that the player does NOT make this choice. The idea they're communicating is that you WILL receive SOMETHING by opening the promo pack... it will just either be the Lobi, or the ship.
Your edit, on the other hand, could be interpreted as offering a third option of "nothing"... you're inadvertently implying a second chance-generation, where none exists. It's bad grammar... or, at least, unnecessary wording.
Again, where's the word CHANCE in any of that?
It's sounds as if you are guaranteed the ship(s) if you don't choose the Lobi.
arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
No, it sounds like what it states, you are guaranteed either the Lobi or the box with choice of ships. One or the other, but not both.
No, it doesn't. You're assuming a choice where none exists, or is stated. The only choice you'll get is which Attack Ship variant you'll receive.
Do you honestly think Cryptic is that dumb? It will probably cost you over a $100 at the very least to gamble a single productive chance to open the ship
if anyone was wondering why cryptic does talk to us here, heres your reason. can't even release a newsblog without someone finding a reason to rage. cryptic gives enough reasons to rage you don't need to try this hard.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
No it does not. "You will receive either A or B." The word choice is only used in the description of B.
No ambiguity, just wishful thinking or a desire to rage.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
nope. cause we do this every promo and most lockboxs... some people just can't handle not getting the grand prize right out the gate... or its some odd temporal loop thingy :P
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
It is not misleading in any way, it clearly states:
If you Buy X, you will get A or you will get B or C.
http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/can-i-start-a-sentence-with-a-conjunction
Grammar 101 here
Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
You seem to be able to write and read English. So I assume you must understand what the word OR means. Their English is fine.
Think about a logic problem in its most basic form, the if/then statement. IF A happens, then B must be different.
In this case, A, represented by the Lobi, is outcome 1. B, represented by the choice of the ships, is possible outcome 2
So in this case, if A=True, then B=False. Likewise, if A=False, then B MUST equal True.
If for some strange reason this still escapes you, I apologize.
LLAP
The way it's written is correct.
The way you have proposed is incorrect and misleading.
If you don't get the Lobi, you get a choice of a ship. The way you have worded it would indicate that you either get the Lobi, a Ship or nothing. In your wording, if you don't get the lobi then you get a chance at a ship, so should you not succeed in your chance you would be left with nothing.
Honestly, the wording of the current promotion is fine. It clearly says you get 'EITHER' Lobi 'OR' the choice of a ship.
I'm not sure what part of the words 'EITHER' and 'OR' people don't get. Every time there is a promotion someone starts this exact same thread.
I don't recall if this happened with the Dread but this exact post has been made in the past...
Lobi's not one of your choices. They're the strike ship or the recon ship. If you read the sentence, choice comes after lobi, so it's not one of your choices.