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thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,165 Arc User
The weapon is ready... you're about to fire the Krenim weapon... What's your target and why?

"You may fire at will, Commander."
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Thank you for the Typhoon!

"The shot" 77 votes

Iconia (Which I think is inside the Herald Sphere.... not sure)
10%
mattjohnsonvaa3001darkknightucfthay8472sistericr0mulannpcjacklewis404azurealli4nce 8 votes
Herald Sphere
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Solanae Sphere
1%
shpoks 1 vote
Defera
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arachnaasmajosea61dirlettiabds007 4 votes
Hobus Star (Whatever is left of it.)
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Vaadwaur Prime
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New Talax
10%
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Other...
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    Herald Sphere
    I think that should erase the current Iconians from time without erasing the rest, meaning all the present should still happen. ​​
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


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    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    Other...
    Self Destruct Mechanism.
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  • sirmaydaysirmayday Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    Other...
    Eliminating Iconia, or even stymying any of the Iconian plans prior to Season 10, would undo most or all of STO to this point, since they've had a hand (however indirectly) in every major plot. I think I'd rather just wing T'Ket with it, thruth be told, but I don't know if so small a target is legitimate, and I don't know that erasing him/her/it would really be such a good idea.
  • trekkattrekkat Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Other...
    Other. Not all of New Talax, just Nelix.

    Edit:

    And Harry. Just to be safe.
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,165 Arc User
    Iconia (Which I think is inside the Herald Sphere.... not sure)
    artan42 wrote: »
    I think that should erase the current Iconians from time without erasing the rest, meaning all the present should still happen. ​​

    The things been sitting in the Andromedea Galaxy for the past 200k years.

    You might even fix the radiation the Kelvins were complaining about. :)
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    Thank you for the Typhoon!
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    Other...
    Earth.... just to watch the feds break every rule, regulation and morality to save it again, while my home system remains the biggest graveyard out there. (Romulus and Remus)
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    Herald Sphere
    thay8472 wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    I think that should erase the current Iconians from time without erasing the rest, meaning all the present should still happen.

    The things been sitting in the Andromedea Galaxy for the past 200k years.

    You might even fix the radiation the Kelvins were complaining about. :)

    Everybody's a winner. I might then strap a slipstream drive on my Weapon Ship and go erase the Kelvins as well, maybe the T'Kon as well, and the Organians, the ALL OF REALITY ITSELF!!!!!​​
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    Herald Sphere
    I'd start with the Herald Sphere and then proceed to take out any spheres they move in to position to replace it, in theory this should neutralise the Iconian offensive capacity while not having major effects on the rest of the galaxy. The damage to Andromeda, if there is any, is indeterminable but certainly for the foreseeable future irrelevant to us.
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  • tacticalrooktacticalrook Member Posts: 810 Arc User
    Earth, clearly.
    /channel_join grind
  • dirlettiadirlettia Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    Defera
    Definitely Defera, just so I can get on with fightig the real war instead of constantly excuting that annoyingly cowardly species.

    Still waiting to be able to use forum titles
  • arachnaasarachnaas Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    Defera
    I think I have run those borg missions too many times. Darn fish people being all neutral and fishy.
    Not serious at all, I don't think we should fire the thing.
  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    Other...
    Earth! Death to the Federation! Long Live the Klingon Empire!
  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    Hobus Star (Whatever is left of it.)
    I'll go Hobus.

    Ancient history would be unchanged pretty much. The Star Empire would still be around, as would Spock to further improve relations. Without all the hullabaloo involving the Republic the gate network wouldn't have been discovered or activated, and the spheres may have remained dormant.​​
  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    Other...
    Other: Kagran. He needs to go.
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  • kerygankerygan Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    New Talax
    new Talax , but if thats not possible , America will sufice.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,672 Community Moderator
    Herald Sphere
    coupaholic wrote: »
    I'll go Hobus.

    Ancient history would be unchanged pretty much. The Star Empire would still be around, as would Spock to further improve relations. Without all the hullabaloo involving the Republic the gate network wouldn't have been discovered or activated, and the spheres may have remained dormant.​​

    Or... when the Iconians show up we'll be worse off because of lack of knowledge of how the Sphere's operate, and we wouldn't have the Romulans as allies because the Tal Shiar has taken control of the Empire and now serves the Iconians after dissolving the Senate to claim full control.
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    Earth! Death to the Federation! Long Live the Klingon Empire!

    Without the Federation, the Klingon Empire might not even exist either. Consider Praxis. Without the Federation helping them after Praxis exploded... the Empire would be doomed to die. Also... it was an Earth ship that revealed the Suliban threat to the Klingons. Without Enterprise, the Klingon Empire might have fallen into Civil War in the 22nd Century thanks to manipulation by the Suliban.

    And to anyone considering Iconia itself as a target... if we do consider the Jenolan Sphere to be Iconian in origin, the Jenolan sphere would vanish, meaning the USS Jenolan would continue on its way and Scotty would not survive into the 24th Century. Also... the gates discovered by Picard and Sisko woudn't exist, the USS Yamato wouldn't discover Iconia and be destroyed by a virus...

    The Iconians were involved with so many things that wiping them out from history would threaten us as well.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Without the iconians period life doesn't evolve throughout the galaxy as we know it (they don't form their empire, they don't simultaneously wipe out a lot of other species on their way down, the entire ST universe doesn't happen.) Without the individual spheres the plot of STO doesn't happen, so there's a lot less preparation and unification happening prior to the iconian invasion. That's worse.

    What I hope this is starting to hint to people is that the time weapon is a red herring. Its the easy way out presented blatantly half-way through this season (10.5!) with a background in canon that explicitly states "this won't work."

    Its the bait before the switch to the plan that DOES stop the Iconians (and has the capacity to fill out the remaining half-season).
    valoreah wrote: »
    I hope we can fire it at Kurland so we can get a better voice actor for him.​​
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Hobus Star (Whatever is left of it.)
    rattler2 wrote: »
    coupaholic wrote: »
    I'll go Hobus.

    Ancient history would be unchanged pretty much. The Star Empire would still be around, as would Spock to further improve relations. Without all the hullabaloo involving the Republic the gate network wouldn't have been discovered or activated, and the spheres may have remained dormant.​​

    Or... when the Iconians show up we'll be worse off because of lack of knowledge of how the Sphere's operate, and we wouldn't have the Romulans as allies because the Tal Shiar has taken control of the Empire and now serves the Iconians after dissolving the Senate to claim full control.
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    Earth! Death to the Federation! Long Live the Klingon Empire!

    Without the Federation, the Klingon Empire might not even exist either. Consider Praxis. Without the Federation helping them after Praxis exploded... the Empire would be doomed to die. Also... it was an Earth ship that revealed the Suliban threat to the Klingons. Without Enterprise, the Klingon Empire might have fallen into Civil War in the 22nd Century thanks to manipulation by the Suliban.

    And to anyone considering Iconia itself as a target... if we do consider the Jenolan Sphere to be Iconian in origin, the Jenolan sphere would vanish, meaning the USS Jenolan would continue on its way and Scotty would not survive into the 24th Century. Also... the gates discovered by Picard and Sisko woudn't exist, the USS Yamato wouldn't discover Iconia and be destroyed by a virus...

    The Iconians were involved with so many things that wiping them out from history would threaten us as well.
    Nonsense! That's recent history.... None of that would have happened if the Iconians hadn't wiped out the Tkon. so if we erase the Iconians, then the Tkon would still rule this region.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,672 Community Moderator
    Herald Sphere
    Assuming it was the Iconians who took out the Tkon.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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  • nategamersnategamers Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    Other...
    I choose this because.

    It will miss the herald sphere and hit planet earth advancing them years into the future where we now have tier 20 ships with 360 everything and huge ships that can destroy worlds all for the loving price of zen that will cost anywhere from 100,000 zen at the lowest.

    But wait theirs more! We also now have ship ally pets that will do your biding like hanger pets, but will be more useful at the loving price of 50,000 zen.



    P.S. if anything is going to come from this its going to be $.$ dollar signs in their eyes.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,502 Arc User
    Other...
    Voted something else. In order to make the shot count and not eradicate all life in the known universe at the same time, the history of the iconians needs to be examined.

    A time travel mission to get the info from the preservers is still a possibility.
    Then again, perhaps all that is needed is to erase the "other" who saved the iconians in the past and hope it is not your character. Wouldn't it be a nice twist if it was the player who saved the iconians in the past and thus sparked the current conflict.​​
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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    Other...
    Target: The capacitors of the Iconian Dreadnought over Laenas III, timed to occur .5 seconds before they whack the Preserver Archive.

    Due to "malfunction", all "previous" plans will remain in place, however, with the "time bought" from the Archive not being whack-a-moled, we can communicate with the Preservers who reign in their "wayward children" and usher in a new era of "we'll be way over here messing with reality, you have fun with the Borg..."​​
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    Other...
    Target: Tovan Khev
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    Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!

  • arachnaasarachnaas Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    Defera
    Target: Tovan Khev

    I will swap Toven Khev for T'Ket. Then we can run all over looking for the Other, and when we find them there will be two lines of dialog before I never hear about it again.

  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    Target: Tovan Khev

    There must always be a Tovan Khev.

    Captain Jack's got nothing on Tovan when it comes to not being able to be killed.
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  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    Hobus Star (Whatever is left of it.)
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Or... when the Iconians show up we'll be worse off because of lack of knowledge of how the Sphere's operate, and we wouldn't have the Romulans as allies because the Tal Shiar has taken control of the Empire and now serves the Iconians after dissolving the Senate to claim full control.

    Now you're just being pessimistic. This is Star Trek remember, the good guys always win :smiley:

    The Iconians spent so much time trying to fragment the factions of the quadrant to make sure history is not repeated. How can you be sure they'd still bundle back into our space where a very much more unified and able force is waiting for them? They were able to put their differences aside when The Dominion came knocking.

    As for the Romulans, how can you be so sure the Tal Shiar would have taken over? If it were that simple would they not be in control already? Not triggering that specific supernova from that specific system, one that itself no longer exists, would have all sorts of knock-on implications. Different plans may play out differently. Perhaps Hakeev's lies would have been discovered soon enough to take him out of the picture? Perhaps Taris would realise working with Iconians is a stupid idea?​​
  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,286 Arc User
    Other...
    Wow so many OTHER...hilarious poll normal-2.gif​​
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  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Other...
    Bajor.

    Because TRIBBLE Bajor.

    Edit: Well that's a weird word to censor. Oh well. "Forget Bajor" then.
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