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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Other...
    gulberat wrote: »
    Removing structures as opposed to people is another very interesting option: "for want of a nail, the war was lost," after all. Of course, there could still be unexpected blowback from that, meaning that continues to be an excessively risky proposition. But I DO like the out-of-the-box thinking there. :)

    Another major issue is the weapon itself existing at all, as long as it does it poses a huge threat of being used by someone who is NOT concerned with just how much damage any use of this weapon can cause- like the Krenim appear to be from their dialouge.

    Also Erasing Jm'pok, as much of a jerk he is, would have much more moral issues than erasing the iconians, although practically speaking it would be a better option, although not a good one.

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • nathraelnathrael Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    Other...
    Other-The Borg Cube/Sphere that assimilated Donatra

    Romulus would still end up getting hit by the Hobus Nova, but Donatra would likely execute all the Taal'Shiar, and also has the potential to reform the Star Empire into a unified front that could better face the Iconians, rather then having both political sides of a schism fighting each other.
  • crm14916crm14916 Member Posts: 1,535 Arc User
    Herald Sphere
    Now this is a descent poll...

    The Herald Sphere is a construct, so eliminating it doesn't necessarily mean a people don't exist... But eliminating it also means the Iconians don't get to bring their entire Armada here... At least, not for another 200,000 years while they build another...

    CM
    "Equipped with his five senses, man explores the universe around him and calls the adventure science." - Edwin Hubble
  • arachnaasarachnaas Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Defera
    crm14916 wrote: »
    Now this is a descent poll...

    The Herald Sphere is a construct, so eliminating it doesn't necessarily mean a people don't exist... But eliminating it also means the Iconians don't get to bring their entire Armada here... At least, not for another 200,000 years while they build another...

    CM
    The issue is that the Herald sphere is the oldest. They might decide that building spheres is a dumb idea and so we get all the changes that come with that. A similar problem to if you erase the Iconians. The preservers just might not bother, thus wiping out all the main races of the alpha quadrant.

    This weapon is such a minefield of unwanted and unforeseen consequences. I agree with other posters that the most safe thing we can do with it, is erase it again.
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
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    gradii wrote: »
    gulberat wrote: »
    Removing structures as opposed to people is another very interesting option: "for want of a nail, the war was lost," after all. Of course, there could still be unexpected blowback from that, meaning that continues to be an excessively risky proposition. But I DO like the out-of-the-box thinking there. :)

    Another major issue is the weapon itself existing at all, as long as it does it poses a huge threat of being used by someone who is NOT concerned with just how much damage any use of this weapon can cause- like the Krenim appear to be from their dialouge.

    Also Erasing Jm'pok, as much of a jerk he is, would have much more moral issues than erasing the iconians, although practically speaking it would be a better option, although not a good one.

    I'm not sure I would say more issues than committing genocide against the Iconians--I would consider it a bit less since it would only target one individual directly responsible for the direction of the Klingon Empire.

    However, as I said even in my "justification," even though I am able to theorize it and articulate fairly solid reasoning as to why it could work, there is always that X-factor of the unpredictable involved with firing the weapon, and since I cannot guarantee that it would do as I want and restore the Martok administration and from there place the allies in a stronger and more mutually amicable position against the Iconians, it still cannot actually be used.

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