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This just in!
[url="http://"]http://screenrant.com/star-trek-uncharted-fan-pitch/[/url]
SO lets see, Andromeda..check, race responsible for seeding life in our galaxy, check.
WAIT A MOMENT!.. that would be the preservers, or the Iconians, but aren't we currently fighting the Iconians (who have been hanging out in Andromeda for most of the last 200,000 years? Proposed series is set 200 years after kirk (just before or after STO?)
Have to see how it plays out, and if the network picks it up... someone tell Christine T If the network goes for it I got a feeling she's going to have to be the go to gal for contiguity!
Nice to have scooped a least a few of you!
*Kui grins!*
Lets not over speculate. Won't know any more for a bit...But I got a feeling that the STO Dev team may be following this!
[url="http://"]http://screenrant.com/star-trek-uncharted-fan-pitch/[/url]
SO lets see, Andromeda..check, race responsible for seeding life in our galaxy, check.
WAIT A MOMENT!.. that would be the preservers, or the Iconians, but aren't we currently fighting the Iconians (who have been hanging out in Andromeda for most of the last 200,000 years? Proposed series is set 200 years after kirk (just before or after STO?)
Have to see how it plays out, and if the network picks it up... someone tell Christine T If the network goes for it I got a feeling she's going to have to be the go to gal for contiguity!
Nice to have scooped a least a few of you!
*Kui grins!*
Lets not over speculate. Won't know any more for a bit...But I got a feeling that the STO Dev team may be following this!
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EDIT: Manually typed link, answer is: unrelated to STO, Ten Forward's that way -->
This one does though...
http://screenrant.com/star-trek-uncharted-fan-pitch
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
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like this one that turned out to be totally false.
http://www.latino-review.com/news/star-trek-exclusive-trek-is-going-to-return-to-tv
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
It is kinda-sorta unusual for a studio to offer something like this.
Pretty cool.
I guess we can only hope that they are serious about it and aren't just fishing for ideas to borrow.
(Like CBS did to Roddenberry when they turned down "Wagon Train to the Stars" and then green-lit "Lost in Space")
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Everything from Latino Review is false. It's like the Weekly World News of movie review sites.
As for this pitch, I have to wonder how long it'll take CBS to wise up and realize that there's demand for a Star Trek series again. The fact that these articles keep popping up all over is evidence enough that there is.
Also, this thread should be in Ten Forward since it has nothing to do with the game directly.
Isn't paramount movies only ?? cbs have the rights for the series !!
Unfortunately a lot of things from games are invalidated by shows.
I hate to say it, but most games can draw on canon, but very few, if any, are ever considered canon. I think the only two are Aliens: Colonial Marines and Star Trek (reboot universe game).
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STO is not canon, by definition alone. Only the shows and movies by CBS and Paramount are canon. Nothing else which includes novels, games, even promotional material. STO is a licensed game and as such CBS has a loose control over it including veto rights but don't confuse that with being canonical. In fact, STO contradicts canon on so many levels it would hurt the franchise more if they would actually adapt it.
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I just don't hold out much hope for a new series anymore.
not until I see a new series listed on the tv guide will I take any notice of any more of these star trek news items.
I`ve just had my hopes raised too many times to get excited about this any more.
I have finally come to the conclusion that the next movie if that indeed happens itself will be the last we will ever see of star trek as far as live action goes.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I hope STO doesn't become cannon. STO conflicts with cannon quite a lot of times and the storyline is not so great. Cryptic basically picks some new species every once in a while for us to fight. They make a lot of decisions that seem ignorant/misinformed or extreme stretches. Putting a whole bunch of species (and planets, spacey things, etc.) that Voyager encountered in one tiny part of the delta quadrant and referring to that as the whole quadrant.
There are things such as:
-Preservers=Ancient Humanoids --- The Preservers were definitely alive when there was other sentient life in the galaxy, and iirc the Ancient Humanoids were dying out as life began, and seeded their genes everywhere.
-Species 8472 can shapeshift --- iirc the 8472 used genetic modifications or something similar and could not change shape whenever they wanted to (Cryptic seems to have them doing very Founderish things)
-The Federation fighting the Klingons --- It's unlikely that the Federation would not believe the Klingons when they tell them they have found infiltrators, especially after the friendship they developed after the Dominion War
The whole deal with the Iconians:
Making them not only evil, but actually making them god-like/magical, doesn't feel very Trek at all and doesn't seem related to how the Iconian plot in TNG ended. Then they pick some species and make them servitors. The "Elachi", "Solonae", and "Bluegills" (still don't understand the name of the last one) were just species, and it seems like a stretch to make them all servitors. The Solonae were just experimenting, the Bluegills were attempting to live with the Federation iirc, and the Elachi were just there once. They could still exist and be a discovered world by the point of a future series.
Personally, I think the sphere builders from ENT would have made better enemies, and since we know little about them, there is some room to work with. They used the Xindi, why not other species? They could have made the Dyson spheres (they did make spheres after all). There could also be potential for diplomacy with the servitors to allow for a more Trek feel.
Sorry about the rant.
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No idea how to respond to this one. They still require Isomorphic Injections to maintain it. A ship in the Cardassian arc had cargo holds full of the stuff. I think it wasn't that the Federation didn't believe the Klingons per se. The Klingons found evidence, and took the direct route of attacking governments (Gorn) and asked the Federation to help with nothing more than the Empire's word on the infiltrators. Starfleet just didn't see how much of a threat the Undine were. Captain Shon even admits that Starfleet didn't recognize the threat until later.
The Iconians weren't ever seen in TNG. Just their tech. And any sufficiently advanced Tech can be idistinguisable from magic. A modern shotgun would look like some kind of magic Boomstick to Medieval Europeans.
The Solanae IMO was an interesting nod to an episode of TNG, so I don't really find that to be a fault. And they still fill the same role they had in the episode.
The Bluegills were actually trying to conquer the Federation from within, not live peacefully. Having them come back in STO gives one possibility on their origins. Although the bioweapon idea seems a little interesting...
The Elachi... well... we saw them once in Enterprise... and learned... well... almost nothing about them. They were a clean slate really.
Who says the Sphere Builders won't show up anyways?
And... sometimes we all need a good rant.
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It's a novelverse reference. The parasites were called Bluegills in the books and were allegedly Trill symbiont augments.
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We had two shows not centered on the Enterprise. DS9 and Voyager.
Its just that Enterprise is the most recognizable in Star Trek because TOS was on the Enterprise, TNG was on the Enterprise, and Enterprise was on the Enterprise. That name is pretty much the icon of Star Trek.
The main problem I see with reaching Andromeda though is the Galactic Barrier.
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With all the projects out there, I find Axanar and Michael Dorn's Worf series to be really good ideas. Though I don't think Mr. Dorn or the other actors could pull off the timeline between the end of TNG and Nemesis. But I do like the focus on Klingon culture, because we only seen Star Trek mainly from the Federation's perspective.
Remember what preceded the Dominion war? War with the Klingons. What about? They claimed evidence of shape shifters in the Cardassian government. That also broke many more decades of peace between the two factions than existed prior to STO and one brokered under better circumstances than just after an alliance of absolute necessity. It also wasn't as well setup by DS9 (the path to 2409 did make a point about building political tensions (internal and external.))
How many genuine god like beings has ST featured? Its a good week if a non-corporeal being who plays with the fates of all around it doesn't turn up. IMO the iconians being proto-Q demonstrates a missing stage in the Lemarkian evolution of the ST universe. It may not be customary (with one example we've just seen the before or after, not the in-between), but it works. In that its just what I'd like to see out of a continuation of the property (much like the connection between some of the more interesting aliens of the week. It creates a structure to the IP which highlights how it isn't JUST trying to fill a release schedule.)
The TNG iconian episode, by the way, ended ambiguously. Picard speculated that the Iconians may not have been as malicious as portrayed by their opponents. He had no direct evidence to support that, its just a general point you can make about what tends to happen in historical conflicts (and there are certainly plenty of examples to the contrary where bad deeds were recorded with reasonable accuracy). Rather, he had some pretty strong evidence to support the alternative hypothesis (highly aggressive data systems, unquestionably designed to infect starships but without regard to their vital systems) and DS9 backed that up with the all too easy military application of the Iconian gateways (even if you could speculate that it wasn't their main function, its very difficult to say that it wasn't the gates' function at all.)
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A Deltan and an Orion along with one that can change gender is a bit too much. I do like the transhumanist movement idea and the merging of tech with organic to get the best of both worlds.
And I agree they probably want to get the domain name for star trek beyond.