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Romulan Worlds - New Sector Space Edition

chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
edited August 2015 in Romulan Discussion
I'’ve updated my old list of Romulan systems for the new sector space map, this time including the RSE too. Can'’t necropost of course, so here'’s a new topic.

Because space is a big jumble, I’'ve simply listed RSE, Republic, and neutral systems. My colour key is as follows:
Purple = Star Empire
Green = Republic
no colour = not aligned / not claimed
Red = Klingon
Blue = Federation

Also, I’'m listing these by groups of horizontally-aligned sectors, starting from the top and working down. Just makes it easier to read that way. Where I’'ve made assumptions, I'’ve listed them. In many cases, I’'m expecting that because either the Empire or Republic patrols a system, they likely claim it as their own. There are systems on either side of the conflict where this occurs. I have not conjectured anything that we haven'’t seen in a mission / patrol or are able to read - the information is as best as I can make out with what’'s available.

For the quick count:
Republic systems: 21
Star Empire systems: 12
Independent / Not Occupied*: 29
(note: where a system is not occupied, it's recognized as Republic, by virtue of the Republic being the accepted 'successor' to the RSE by the other major powers)
Sector Row 1: Hobus / Dimorus / Lirss

Hobus Sector
> Nimbus
> Fitzan: mining colony
> Romulus
> Lonco: was meeting place between RSE and Hirogen
> Cero
> Hobus

Dimorus Sector
> Dimorus: site of S’harien Station
> Aihai
> Llaiir
> Sarita: independent colony, appealed for Federation aid
> Vhoran: Federation Science Council allowed access for planetary surveys

Lirss Sector
> Lirss
> K’shan
> Delta Corvi: evacuated after raid - probable for re-colonization
> Fvillhaih
Sector Row 2: Sierra / Vendor / Argama

Sierra Sector
> Chiron
> Rhi

Vendor Sector
> T’liss: contested between RSE and Federation
> Ra’kholh
> Vendor
> Tephrei
> Hadrian: resource-rich worlds
> Aelas

Argama Sector
> Pilatus: site of attempted colony - evacuated after planet-wide seismic event
> Agrama: claimed from Orion Syndicate
> Terrh
> Sienae
Sector Row 3: Rator / Unroth / Gasko / Iconia

Rator Sector
> Rator
> Chulan: also site of Rh’'Ihho Station
> Daise
> Orith
> Hfihar: series of mining sites, various factions

Unroth Sector
> Cirini Prime: independent colony
> Unroth: independent colony - raided by Tal’'Shiar
> Khellian: uninhabited. Starfleet comm stations allowed in area
> Haakona: site of Vault station
> Brea: claimed from Tal'Shiar - habitable
> Muso: independent colony
> Aido

Gasko Sector
> Khaiell: independent colony of Romulan and Vulcan citizens
> Mylasa
> Nopada: formerly RSE (site of Hakeev'’s lab), since raided by Republic
> Gasko: site of Gasko station - inhabitants formerly held by RSE, liberated by Republic

Iconia Sector
> Dera: formerly site of Reman Resistance base - raided by RSE
> Chaltok: Yridian colony
> Aith’ndor
> T’iokol: site of depleted mines - patrolled by RSE
> Iconia
> Dinasia
Sector Row 4: Japori / Azure / H’atoria / Narendra

Japori Sector
> Virinat: evacuated after raid - probable for re-colonization
> Japori: open trading world - patrolled by Republic

Azure Sector
> Jouret: failed and abandoned Federation colony - since claimed by Republic
> Crateris: evacuated after raid - probable for re-colonization
> Acamar
> New Romulus (Dewa)
> Carraya

H’atoria Sector
> Gamma Eridon: habitable, not yet colonized - patrolled by Republic, and satellites in orbit
> H’atoria
> Nequencia : Republic trading world

Narendra Sector
> Narendra
> Galorndon Core
> Archer: under review as candidate for colonization
Other
> Ponor Sector, Rashana: ‘independent’ colony, but maintains ties with RSE
> Mempa Sector, Beta Thoridar
> Pheben Sector, Pheben: mining outpost

I'll be updating this post as I go, or as anyone has further observations / suggestions.
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    These do not represent the current situation. Jouret was once Fed territory; it's now Republic territory. Rator was taken by the Republic. The RSE now has most of the Hobus sector and a bit of the Dimorus sector, as evidenced by the different shades of green shown on the map:
    http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/sto.gamepedia.com/c/cf/In-Game_Galaxy_Map_Season10.png

    Everything else green on the map is either Republic or Borg, and again, different shades of green distinguish between Republic and Borg.
  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    protogoth wrote: »
    The RSE now has most of the Hobus sector and a bit of the Dimorus sector, as evidenced by the different shades of green shown on the map:
    http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/sto.gamepedia.com/c/cf/In-Game_Galaxy_Map_Season10.png

    That's definitely a possibility, but if so the descriptions need some serious updating.

    From what I've been able to piece together, the gap between the green spaces along the Rator/Unroth border with Vendor/Argama roughly aligns with a shift in ownership of systems. There are more RSE holdings (according to their descriptions) north of that border, more Republic to the south, and a sprinkling of independents around it.

    Either way, in many of the RSE systems there is still an RSE presence there as per the available patrol missions. And in many of the Republic systems, I've considered them as such because the Republic patrols them in the old Tau Dewa daily set.

    As for the lighter green in the Hobus area, I always thought that was the radiation clouded area that Hobus created.

    That said, you're definitely right about Jouret - it's where the sphere gate is, and that was established as Republic space per Season 8. I've updated that above.
  • niboclodhopniboclodhop Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Nice work here, Chip. Unfortunately, it does seem that Protogoth is right and that Rator has fallen. On the local map Rator is definitely shaded in the blue, which means it has either outright fallen to the Federation/Republic or is no longer in the -shrinking fast- sphere of influence of the Imperial Romulans.

    On the galaxy map Rator doesn't even appear at all. I'm not sure if it did before, but it seems significant that the capital of the RSE wouldn't appear on the map. It tells me that it is no longer the capital.

    The Imperial Romulan Fleet recognized a while ago that the RSE was for all intents and purposes, dead. It is a shame for those of us who were and still are fans of the old RSE from the TV series. We've dealt with this in our role-plays a couple of ways. In one storyline we have the RSE defeating the Republic and still remaining as a galactic power. It's a Star Trek/Star Wars crossover RP as well.

    In another storyline -our main storyline- we are keeping with the setup as Cryptic has laid it out and the RSE is abandoning its old shrinking amount of territory -just a few systems in the ruined Tarod Sector, really- and striking out to found a new homeworld away from the Alliance and other galactic menaces.

    In another storyline we have joined with the Alpha Coalition to try to limit the expansion of the Federation's alliance and do a few other nefarious things. That storyline has kind of stalled at the moment with the whole Iconian War thing.

    We are looking for more people to role-play with as well. These ideas that I have presented might not interest you too much, but we like to have multiple story lines going, each acting as a separate universe if you will, so we are accommodating and might be able to do some RP with you even if your ideas don't match up exactly with ours.
  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    It's a Star Trek/Star Wars crossover RP as well.

    BLASPHEMY!!! :D

    We are looking for more people to role-play with as well. These ideas that I have presented might not interest you too much, but we like to have multiple story lines going, each acting as a separate universe if you will, so we are accommodating and might be able to do some RP with you even if your ideas don't match up exactly with ours.

    But, in all seriousness, this is something i agitated for two months ago (http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1411541). I havealways been interested in Romulan focused RP, and without someone on the other side to talk to, to give life to them, it ends up getting boring. I'd love to talk about this sometime.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Thanks for this, I'm bookmarking this for our own storylines. I started something similar but ended up getting sidetracked when I had to revise portions of our own roleplay to better resemble the new galactic sector map, which required some alterations (and additions).

    You're doing romulan players a great service.
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  • greatbritongreatbriton Member Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I would also be amenable to any Romulan-focused roleplay if/when an undertaking commences. While I am not as vocal on the forum as many, I like to think of myself as quite the Romulan aficionado (sans the language, which, considering my French exam scores back in the dim past at school, should surprise no-one!)
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  • niboclodhopniboclodhop Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    tolmarius wrote: »
    BLASPHEMY!!! :D




    But, in all seriousness, this is something i agitated for two months ago (http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1411541). I havealways been interested in Romulan focused RP, and without someone on the other side to talk to, to give life to them, it ends up getting boring. I'd love to talk about this sometime.


    Let's talk more about this, Tolmarius. Is there a way to send private messages with this site?
  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Let's talk more about this, Tolmarius. Is there a way to send private messages with this site?

    There is, but my understanding is that this site is going to be phased out soon, and the fora migrated to the fora at Arcgames.com (in fact, the more convenient way of sending PMs here will now direct you to arcgames.com, although you can still send a PM through this site if you know how), so it's probably best to try it there at arcgames.com, or even through the Arc launcher itself.

    To do the PM through arcgames.com, just click on tolmarius' avatar (and you'll probably have to add her to your friends list before you can send her a PM; so sometime later today, once she accepts your add request, you'll be able to PM her there). Also, once you've added her there, you'll be able to not only send a PM, but use the Arc instant messenger feature in the Arc launcher as well.

    To do the PM here will depend on her settings, so you might well still be waiting regardless.
  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Let's talk more about this, Tolmarius. Is there a way to send private messages with this site?

    Well, you can always pm me in game, if you are on, or on arc, since my handle is the same in both.
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  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Nice work here, Chip. Unfortunately, it does seem that Protogoth is right and that Rator has fallen. On the local map Rator is definitely shaded in the blue, which means it has either outright fallen to the Federation/Republic or is no longer in the -shrinking fast- sphere of influence of the Imperial Romulans.

    On the galaxy map Rator doesn't even appear at all. I'm not sure if it did before, but it seems significant that the capital of the RSE wouldn't appear on the map. It tells me that it is no longer the capital.

    Happy you enjoyed it!

    I'm really interested to see what happens with Rator, if it's ever mentioned in-game again. On the old map Rator was right on the line of blue / green as well, because it's right on the edge of (or potentially inside) the Neutral Zone.

    It also doesn't shock me that Rator doesn't show up on the main map. It may still be the homeworld of sorts for the Imperial Remnant, but it isn't a social zone or gameplay-notable location.
    iconians wrote: »
    Thanks for this, I'm bookmarking this for our own storylines. I started something similar but ended up getting sidetracked when I had to revise portions of our own roleplay to better resemble the new galactic sector map, which required some alterations (and additions).

    You're doing romulan players a great service.

    Happy to help! There isn't enough Romulan-focused data available in-game, so if I can produce something, I will.
    tolmarius wrote: »
    But, in all seriousness, this is something i agitated for two months ago (http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1411541). I havealways been interested in Romulan focused RP, and without someone on the other side to talk to, to give life to them, it ends up getting boring. I'd love to talk about this sometime.

    That was a good thread. Definitely worth bringing the subject up again.
  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    chipg7 wrote: »
    It also doesn't shock me that Rator doesn't show up on the main map. It may still be the homeworld of sorts for the Imperial Remnant, but it isn't a social zone or gameplay-notable location.

    I'm personally curious as to what possessed Sela to make Rator the new capital at all. Right on the Federation border. And then she didn't even move it when the Republic became a thing. That put three enemies within striking distance of her palace. (Since I have little doubt that the Republic would have failed to allow a Klingon fleet through to take a crack at Rator). Its really a very poor starategic choice. Just another hit on the Sela Failparade.
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  • niboclodhopniboclodhop Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Thanks for the replies and help. I think I have everything figured out on arcgames.com now.
  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    tolmarius wrote: »
    I'm personally curious as to what possessed Sela to make Rator the new capital at all. Right on the Federation border. And then she didn't even move it when the Republic became a thing. That put three enemies within striking distance of her palace. (Since I have little doubt that the Republic would have failed to allow a Klingon fleet through to take a crack at Rator). Its really a very poor starategic choice. Just another hit on the Sela Failparade.

    It's true... Rator was only one of the planets vying to be the new homeworld. The Path to 2409, vol.9, ch.1 specifies that at least two other worlds were strong contenders. That includes Achenar (Achernar in Star Charts), which is right smack in the middle of Romulan space, and would've made the best strategic location.
  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    tolmarius wrote: »
    I'm personally curious as to what possessed Sela to make Rator the new capital at all.

    Paenhe, a'rhea, ... ahr'feanna hhakh Sila.
  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    We believe that Rhi is also Republic. It has Republic Raptors on many of the buildings, after all, and the Elachi attack it. I can't really see Rhi not siding with the Republic after the attacks, even if it were not already with the Republic.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    In 2394, the colonists of Rhi III voted against rejoining the Romulan Star Empire and submitting to Praetor Taris' rule. Since then, they have struggled to remain independent.

    I could similarly speculate Rhi joined the RSE after the Elachi attacks instead of remaining independant. But it's still just speculation.
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  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    iconians wrote: »
    I could similarly speculate Rhi joined the RSE after the Elachi attacks instead of remaining independant. But it's still just speculation.

    I think there are a lot of colonies that might've joined the Republic by now. Just to list a few:

    - Sarita had appealed for Federation aid right off the bat, so no love for the RSE there
    - Unroth was raided by the Tal'Shiar, so any resettlements would likely be pro-Republic
    - Khaiell is a Vulcan/Romulan colony... 'nuff said

    I'd expect that these and more will be given official Republic status during the next pass-through of the backstory updates, but until then they're oddly 'neutral.' But seeing as we're still only in 2410 I'd expect that negotiations are being held with the governments of these colonies as we speak.
  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    protogoth wrote: »
    Paenhe, a'rhea, ... ahr'feanna hhakh Sila.

    Rhe've, ri'nanov. Ahr'mniurr aei.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Of course. Until that happens, though... it's still speculation. We aren't really aware of who the government representatives are of these colonies, what their pasts are, or how they see the RR or RSE now that things are heating up. We don't know if they have been intimidated into joining the RSE willingly, or were overtaken by Tal Shiar forces in the chaos. Or if they were liberated and found a home with the Republic.

    Or maybe the Iotians were transplanted there by the Iconians and now Rhi is a 1930's gangster planet.

    I do look forward to seeing a new pass for the Romulan storyline though, regardless of how the political map turns out.
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  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    iconians wrote: »
    Or maybe the Iotians were transplanted there by the Iconians and now Rhi is a 1930's gangster planet.

    That's, like, a thing with you, isn't it? :D
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    tolmarius wrote: »
    That's, like, a thing with you, isn't it? :D

    I've made no secret of my love for the Iotians. I love them almost as much as Romulans. Almost.
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    iconians wrote: »
    I've made no secret of my love for the Iotians. I love them almost as much as Romulans. Almost.

    And their culture will now be even better, because they have turned it into what is essentially a TOS themepark. :P
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    protogoth wrote: »
    And their culture will now be even better, because they have turned it into what is essentially a TOS themepark. :P

    That's boring. I hope they're having a civil war between the TOS-evolved Iotians and the Chicago Gangster Iotians.

    Just think of the ground battlezone Cryptic could make out of that. Type-2 Phasers, cheesy 1960's pastels, Thompson Machine Guns and racketeering.

    Drive-by shootings with Hudsons and Galileo-style Shuttles!
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  • greendragon527greendragon527 Member Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/352so7/suricatas_sto_season_10_star_chart_wallpaper/

    What about the above? Rator seems to be on the edge there. Perhaps it's still being hotly contested?
  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/352so7/suricatas_sto_season_10_star_chart_wallpaper/

    What about the above? Rator seems to be on the edge there. Perhaps it's still being hotly contested?

    Rhi is on the other side, and has Republic Raptors all over the place. Which heavily implies it is Republic now, despit the dev's utter silence on anything of that nature.

    It seems that RSE territory encompasses the brighter green there to the north of Rator,
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    chipg7 wrote: »
    It's true... Rator was only one of the planets vying to be the new homeworld. The Path to 2409, vol.9, ch.1 specifies that at least two other worlds were strong contenders. That includes Achenar (Achernar in Star Charts), which is right smack in the middle of Romulan space, and would've made the best strategic location.

    Rator III was the capital of the Imperial Romulan State under Donatra. While Donatra retained Romulus as the capital once the two sides reunited, it stands to reason that Rator remained Donatra's secondary "Winter Court", much like ruling monarchs have estates and secondary palaces where they can rest while still able to perform state functions. After the devastation of the Hobrus event, Rator III would still have the assets and infrastructure to run the government, though at a much reduced capacity.

    In my opinion, the Rator System should be moved to an area in a more centralized to the Romulan sphere of influence. For this reason, it should probably be somewhere between the Romulus/Remus System and Tau Dewa System (New Romulus), but on the RSE side of the divide between the Republic and the Empire. Preferably in the extreme Northwest corner of the Rator System.
  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    davidwford wrote: »
    In my opinion, the Rator System should be moved to an area in a more centralized to the Romulan sphere of influence. For this reason, it should probably be somewhere between the Romulus/Remus System and Tau Dewa System (New Romulus), but on the RSE side of the divide between the Republic and the Empire. Preferably in the extreme Northwest corner of the Rator System.

    By the Star Charts, it's more-or-less where it's supposed to be. Rator is established as being very close to the Neutral Zone.
  • greendragon527greendragon527 Member Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Agreed, perhaps, although highly doubtful, it is a fiercely defended hold out despite Rhi having been taken. Vega is still in Borg hands smack in the middle of Federation territory isn't it? Odd btw that I can't find Vega on the map, given it's importance in STO
  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Agreed, perhaps, although highly doubtful, it is a fiercely defended hold out despite Rhi having been taken. Vega is still in Borg hands smack in the middle of Federation territory isn't it? Odd btw that I can't find Vega on the map, given it's importance in STO

    Vega is on hte map. Its in the Northeast corner of the Risa Sector. That, and given the number of STFs that take place there, and hte lack of any mention of hte Borg being relevant at the moment, I think it can be safely assumed that they were driven off.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    edited June 2015
    tolmarius wrote: »
    Vega is on hte map. Its in the Northeast corner of the Risa Sector. That, and given the number of STFs that take place there, and hte lack of any mention of hte Borg being relevant at the moment, I think it can be safely assumed that they were driven off.

    remember this sentiment when they attack new romulus.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
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