As far as I'm concerned so long as somone flying a great big eyesore doesn't purposefully wave their nacelles in my face I don't care if their ship looks like it should be standing on a corner somewhere...:o
If the entire sky becomes an 'eyesore', though, it will become hard to look elsewhere, though.
Normally the Devs themselves are guarding against such pollution. Not sure what got into them, but they seem to have let go of that.
For future reference, when it got completely out of hand, I preemptively say, "I informed you thusly." :P
If the entire sky becomes an 'eyesore', though, it will become hard to look elsewhere, though.
Normally the Devs themselves are guarding against such pollution. Not sure what got into them, but they seem to have let go of that.
For future reference, when it got completely out of hand, I preemptively say, "I informed you thusly." :P
The entire sky is a big place, moreso since Season 10, I barely see my own ship flying through space now.
Unfortunately, unless the entire Tailor system is either severely hobbled or removed there will always be eyesores, such is the nature of individual free will.
Not everyone will like to conform to what one person believes 'should' be the way to act or look.
Trying to make everyone say the same thing, stand the same way, or dress the same way, sounds an awful lot like... well, a form of government highly criticized here in the U.S.
The entire sky is a big place, moreso since Season 10, I barely see my own ship flying through space now.
Unfortunately, unless the entire Tailor system is either severely hobbled or removed there will always be eyesores, such is the nature of individual free will.
Not everyone will like to conform to what one person believes 'should' be the way to act or look.
Trying to make everyone say the same thing, stand the same way, or dress the same way, sounds an awful lot like... well, a form of government highly criticized here in the U.S.
It's a Star Trek game.
You're a member of Starfleet, the Klingon Defense Force, or the Romulan Republic.
Player's aren't asking people to conform to what they believe...
...they're just pointing out the obvious - that as typical, some folks completely miss the obvious.
Trying to make everyone say the same thing, stand the same way, or dress the same way, sounds an awful lot like... well, a form of government highly criticized here in the U.S.
^^ And this, man-friend, is called a 'Hyperbole.' Someone not wanting all too crazy colors in the sky is a far, far stretch from 'Trying to make everyone say the same thing, stand the same way, or dress the same way.'
And ship-customization is already limited, btw; if not, ppl would immediately take it upon themselves to create the weirdest monstrosities. Which is what my reservations about too outlandish colors is all about, of course.
^^ And this, man-friend, is called a 'Hyperbole.' Someone not wanting all too crazy colors in the sky is a far, far stretch from 'Trying to make everyone say the same thing, stand the same way, or dress the same way.'
And ship-customization is already limited, btw; if not, ppl would immediately take it upon themselves to create the weirdest monstrosities. Which is what my reservations about too outlandish colors is all about, of course.
Aye, I have no issues with you having an opinion or being concerned.
However, this is a game with aliens in it 'outlandish' is a matter of perspective, yes?
There are many races in the Federation, even more than a couple in the Empire and Republic, it is entierly feasable that the representatives from such races petitioned their governing bodies to allow for more latitude for ships commanded by members of their races.
For instance, Vulcan, a founding member of the Federation, yet Starfleet Vulcans cannot fly a Starfleet designed ship with Vulcan hull themes... Although, seeing a brown Sovereign flying through space would be somewhat... unsettling. lol
Aye, I have no issues with you having an opinion or being concerned.
However, this is a game with aliens in it 'outlandish' is a matter of perspective, yes?
There are many races in the Federation, even more than a couple in the Empire and Republic, it is entierly feasable that the representatives from such races petitioned their governing bodies to allow for more latitude for ships commanded by members of their races.
For instance, Vulcan, a founding member of the Federation, yet Starfleet Vulcans cannot fly a Starfleet designed ship with Vulcan hull themes... Although, seeing a brown Sovereign flying through space would be somewhat... unsettling. lol
I'm actually not that all invested in the matter. In my first post about it, for instance, I merely said something like: "Not sure they're really doing the community any favors with this 'colors gone wild' idea." And that is the gist of it: if the Devs really want to go ahead with this, fine, but, from the examples VD showed, for instance, I do think this has the potential to get out of hand fast.
I'm all for more ship-customization, btw; always have been.
I'm actually not that all invested in the matter. In my first post about it, for instance, I merely said something like: "Not sure they're really doing the community any favors with this 'colors gone wild' idea." And that is the gist of it: if the Devs really want to go ahead with this, fine, but, from the examples VD showed, for instance, I do think this has the potential to get out of hand fast.
I'm all for more ship-customization, btw; always have been.
... *Facepalm*
I suggest we discontinue arguing then, as I am also on-board with more customization options.
And I'm somewhat confused as to what people are complaining about here anyway... Haha! :P
if the Devs really want to go ahead with this, fine, but, from the examples VD showed, for instance, I do think this has the potential to get out of hand fast.
I have a weird feeling it'll turn into a comical mess fast as well. I could see CBS looking at their precious Trek IP with pink BoP's and yellow Galaxy's and rapidly conclude this was not a good idea.
I have a weird feeling it'll turn into a comical mess fast as well. I could see CBS looking at their precious Trek IP with pink BoP's and yellow Galaxy's and rapidly conclude this was not a good idea.
Until they see the quarterly sales and celebrate with an impromptu money fight.
I have a weird feeling it'll turn into a comical mess fast as well. I could see CBS looking at their precious Trek IP with pink BoP's and yellow Galaxy's and rapidly conclude this was not a good idea.
That was one of the concerns I had too: that CBS might frown upon this. I doubt they'd revoke the license, but I could see them calling Cryptic to order on this, though.
I have a weird feeling it'll turn into a comical mess fast as well. I could see CBS looking at their precious Trek IP with pink BoP's and yellow Galaxy's and rapidly conclude this was not a good idea.
Yes like it isn't already. with inappropriate ship names and mini gremlins walking around Earth Space Dock.
Someone flying Pink Birds of Prey isn't going to affect your game play in the slightest, unless you start complaining about "muh Immersion" in which case there is no helping you.
Not to mention that there are no hull patterns in Ship customisation that entirely cover the hull so it's still not possible to change the colour of your ship entirely only the little markings on it.
I have a weird feeling it'll turn into a comical mess fast as well. I could see CBS looking at their precious Trek IP with pink BoP's and yellow Galaxy's and rapidly conclude this was not a good idea.
Don't get me wrong I hate humanity as a whole but I don't think it'll be that big a deal as some here seem to think. I WILL fly a pink Ship for a few days just because I can, but as others have said the novelty will quickly wear thin. Most are here to play a Trek game and so I think they will keep their customizations tasteful, but in any case I'm not going to concern myself with what other players do. I'm just going to enjoy myself!
Bright colors do not = Bad BTW
There were some pretty interesting looking ships in canon, this is just one step closer to being able to create them! Kinda like the alien generator, probably should've brought that up several posts ago. 😂
Until they see the quarterly sales and celebrate with an impromptu money fight.
CBS is all about money, sure. However, they generally have the wherewithal to realize that safeguarding the integrity of the IP *is* actually making them more money in the long term. Which is why they put limits on how many exotic lockbox ships Cryptic can put into the sky, and why we don't have a T5 Connie, etc. And why maybe pink BoP's are not a good idea. :P
That was one of the concerns I had too: that CBS might frown upon this. I doubt they'd revoke the license, but I could see them calling Cryptic to order on this, though.
I am obviously assuming CBS approved it in the first place but perhaps haven't grasped the scope of what it will mean ingame and what players could with the option ingame. If they are as anal about things as we've been led to believe, I can't help but wonder how they'll feel if they look in on some of these ships with cheap, outrageous colour schemes once it goes live.
Maybe they won't care but to their credit, they've been tight in certain aspects of the IP.
It's a Star Trek game. Want to go play Super Generic My Pony Spaceships...find another ****ing game.
Correction, it's a Star Trek game that's meant to expand the IP universe. Why don't you go watch TNG on loop and whine about Lockbox ships and everything else 'non-canon' where nobody can hear you.
Correction, it's a Star Trek game that's meant to expand the IP universe. Why don't you go watch TNG on loop and whine about Lockbox ships and everything else 'non-canon' where nobody can hear you.
Let's see:
Player A's complaint is making the game less and less like Star Trek.
Player B's complaint is somebody doesn't want to let them fly around with pink racing stripes.
Given this post, your earlier posts, and most posts I've seen from you...
Seriously though, are you finished with the personal attacks or are you going to degenerate into a childish rage?
I have a problem...when people do not seem to be able to grasp the simplest things. It's a patience thing.
Tom: Here's an apple.
Jerry: That's an orange.
Tom: No, it's an apple.
Jerry: Here, look, pictures of apples and oranges. That's an orange.
Tom: Nope, it's an apple.
* * * * *
It's seriously that simple. Starfleet, KDF, and Rom Republic ships wouldn't sport those. They're part of organized military groups. The group that would likely have the most customization would be the KDF because of the various houses. Now, this isn't talking about kit bashes - cause that gets into potential different classes of ships, testing various things, and the like. All sorts of nifty customization to be found there and more would be welcome.
The ship colors though...they're vessels of a specific organized body. Fleet Symbols replacing Faction Symbols? Yep, those kind of things would be something one might expect to see. Hell, even additional small images for things to be personalized...something one would expect to see.
Non-Starfleet/KDF/Romulan ships...all sorts of colors and stuff could happen there. Somebody wants lime racing stripes with purple polka dots on their Vaadwaur Astika? Why not? Go to town.
Player A's complaint is making the game less and less like Star Trek.
Player B's complaint is somebody doesn't want to let them fly around with pink racing stripes.
Given this post, your earlier posts, and most posts I've seen from you...
...I'm guessing you're a certified dumbass.
I have a problem...when people do not seem to be able to grasp the simplest things. It's a patience thing.
Tom: Here's an apple.
Jerry: That's an orange.
Tom: No, it's an apple.
Jerry: Here, look, pictures of apples and oranges. That's an orange.
Tom: Nope, it's an apple.
Yeah I have an answer alright.
I said That you should worry about how your own ship looks and not others, not "I want a brightly coloured pink spaceship"
Resorting to name caling to silence someone shows more about you than me. And putting words in my mouth also says more about you.
Editing an already quoted post... Below the belt much?
You can see the differences between the quoted post and what was edited. As in, the edited bit was after the asterisks cause the rest is the same in the quoted post.
Like I said, you're a certified dumbass...almost everything you post is /facepalm.
You can see the differences between the quoted post and what was edited. As in, the edited bit was after the asterisks cause the rest is the same in the quoted post.
Like I said, you're a certified dumbass...almost everything you post is /facepalm.
I can appreciate you want to defend lore or whatever and keep the game from turning into a circus act but name calling won't get us anywhere.
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If the entire sky becomes an 'eyesore', though, it will become hard to look elsewhere, though.
Normally the Devs themselves are guarding against such pollution. Not sure what got into them, but they seem to have let go of that.
For future reference, when it got completely out of hand, I preemptively say, "I informed you thusly." :P
Somebody call Mulder!
The entire sky is a big place, moreso since Season 10, I barely see my own ship flying through space now.
Unfortunately, unless the entire Tailor system is either severely hobbled or removed there will always be eyesores, such is the nature of individual free will.
Not everyone will like to conform to what one person believes 'should' be the way to act or look.
Trying to make everyone say the same thing, stand the same way, or dress the same way, sounds an awful lot like... well, a form of government highly criticized here in the U.S.
It's a Star Trek game.
You're a member of Starfleet, the Klingon Defense Force, or the Romulan Republic.
Player's aren't asking people to conform to what they believe...
...they're just pointing out the obvious - that as typical, some folks completely miss the obvious.
Indeed, where's a Vulcan when you need one...
^^ And this, man-friend, is called a 'Hyperbole.'
And ship-customization is already limited, btw; if not, ppl would immediately take it upon themselves to create the weirdest monstrosities. Which is what my reservations about too outlandish colors is all about, of course.
Aye, I have no issues with you having an opinion or being concerned.
However, this is a game with aliens in it 'outlandish' is a matter of perspective, yes?
There are many races in the Federation, even more than a couple in the Empire and Republic, it is entierly feasable that the representatives from such races petitioned their governing bodies to allow for more latitude for ships commanded by members of their races.
For instance, Vulcan, a founding member of the Federation, yet Starfleet Vulcans cannot fly a Starfleet designed ship with Vulcan hull themes... Although, seeing a brown Sovereign flying through space would be somewhat... unsettling. lol
I'm actually not that all invested in the matter. In my first post about it, for instance, I merely said something like: "Not sure they're really doing the community any favors with this 'colors gone wild' idea." And that is the gist of it: if the Devs really want to go ahead with this, fine, but, from the examples VD showed, for instance, I do think this has the potential to get out of hand fast.
I'm all for more ship-customization, btw; always have been.
Rather, I'd say, hulls go yellow of ppl that bravely run away. :P
... *Facepalm*
I suggest we discontinue arguing then, as I am also on-board with more customization options.
And I'm somewhat confused as to what people are complaining about here anyway... Haha! :P
I have a weird feeling it'll turn into a comical mess fast as well. I could see CBS looking at their precious Trek IP with pink BoP's and yellow Galaxy's and rapidly conclude this was not a good idea.
Until they see the quarterly sales and celebrate with an impromptu money fight.
That was one of the concerns I had too: that CBS might frown upon this. I doubt they'd revoke the license, but I could see them calling Cryptic to order on this, though.
Yes like it isn't already. with inappropriate ship names and mini gremlins walking around Earth Space Dock.
Someone flying Pink Birds of Prey isn't going to affect your game play in the slightest, unless you start complaining about "muh Immersion" in which case there is no helping you.
Not to mention that there are no hull patterns in Ship customisation that entirely cover the hull so it's still not possible to change the colour of your ship entirely only the little markings on it.
Don't get me wrong I hate humanity as a whole but I don't think it'll be that big a deal as some here seem to think. I WILL fly a pink Ship for a few days just because I can, but as others have said the novelty will quickly wear thin. Most are here to play a Trek game and so I think they will keep their customizations tasteful, but in any case I'm not going to concern myself with what other players do. I'm just going to enjoy myself!
Bright colors do not = Bad BTW
There were some pretty interesting looking ships in canon, this is just one step closer to being able to create them! Kinda like the alien generator, probably should've brought that up several posts ago. 😂
CBS is all about money, sure. However, they generally have the wherewithal to realize that safeguarding the integrity of the IP *is* actually making them more money in the long term. Which is why they put limits on how many exotic lockbox ships Cryptic can put into the sky, and why we don't have a T5 Connie, etc. And why maybe pink BoP's are not a good idea. :P
Cause the best reasoning to do something worse is that it's already bad?
Honestly, it's getting to the point where even if they lost the license at some point...they could carry on with the game claiming that it's a parody.
That depends on what you consider "Bad".
An improvement to customisation is a good thing in my eyes, worry about how your ship looks not other people's ships. :rolleyes:
It's a Star Trek game. Want to go play Super Generic My Pony Spaceships...find another ****ing game.
I am obviously assuming CBS approved it in the first place but perhaps haven't grasped the scope of what it will mean ingame and what players could with the option ingame. If they are as anal about things as we've been led to believe, I can't help but wonder how they'll feel if they look in on some of these ships with cheap, outrageous colour schemes once it goes live.
Maybe they won't care but to their credit, they've been tight in certain aspects of the IP.
Correction, it's a Star Trek game that's meant to expand the IP universe. Why don't you go watch TNG on loop and whine about Lockbox ships and everything else 'non-canon' where nobody can hear you.
Ooooh! looks like I hit a nerve.
Seriously though, are you finished with the personal attacks or are you going to degenerate into a childish rage?
Let's see:
Player A's complaint is making the game less and less like Star Trek.
Player B's complaint is somebody doesn't want to let them fly around with pink racing stripes.
Given this post, your earlier posts, and most posts I've seen from you...
...I'm guessing you're a certified dumbass.
I have a problem...when people do not seem to be able to grasp the simplest things. It's a patience thing.
Tom: Here's an apple.
Jerry: That's an orange.
Tom: No, it's an apple.
Jerry: Here, look, pictures of apples and oranges. That's an orange.
Tom: Nope, it's an apple.
* * * * *
It's seriously that simple. Starfleet, KDF, and Rom Republic ships wouldn't sport those. They're part of organized military groups. The group that would likely have the most customization would be the KDF because of the various houses. Now, this isn't talking about kit bashes - cause that gets into potential different classes of ships, testing various things, and the like. All sorts of nifty customization to be found there and more would be welcome.
The ship colors though...they're vessels of a specific organized body. Fleet Symbols replacing Faction Symbols? Yep, those kind of things would be something one might expect to see. Hell, even additional small images for things to be personalized...something one would expect to see.
Non-Starfleet/KDF/Romulan ships...all sorts of colors and stuff could happen there. Somebody wants lime racing stripes with purple polka dots on their Vaadwaur Astika? Why not? Go to town.
Question asked, question answered. :P
Yeah I have an answer alright.
I said That you should worry about how your own ship looks and not others, not "I want a brightly coloured pink spaceship"
Resorting to name caling to silence someone shows more about you than me. And putting words in my mouth also says more about you.
Oh and I'm not certified yet.
My Degree in "Dumass" hasn't arrived yet.
Go back and look at the post you quoted.
A reply to...Originally Posted by samt1996
A reply to...Originally Posted by induperator
Not just a reply to...Originally Posted by induperator
Pay attention.
I don't harbor the ill will to you that I do to him.
I just disagree with you. I think he's a certified dumbass.
Editing an already quoted post... Below the belt much?
You can see the differences between the quoted post and what was edited. As in, the edited bit was after the asterisks cause the rest is the same in the quoted post.
Like I said, you're a certified dumbass...almost everything you post is /facepalm.
I can appreciate you want to defend lore or whatever and keep the game from turning into a circus act but name calling won't get us anywhere.