Well, instead of the switch to unsee the ships themselves, they could make a switch to show standard skins instead of this epileptic's nightmare colour schemes on the other players' ships.
Well, instead of the switch to unsee the ships themselves, they could make a switch to show standard skins instead of this epileptic's nightmare colour schemes on the other players' ships.
It will be reasonable compromise.
There is no reason for there to be a "compromise." Your neighbors can drive a clown car if they want to and if you don't want to see it, tough luck. Close your eyes or look away.
Well, instead of the switch to unsee the ships themselves, they could make a switch to show standard skins instead of this epileptic's nightmare colour schemes on the other players' ships.
It will be reasonable compromise.
I'd like to just be able to take other players off my screen when not in a social hub. Much nicer and much more like the show. But one for standard skins would work as well.
Lower Sector player density (it seem to have increased of late for some reason) and a switch to return the light levels back to what the Sector re-vamp was original would be nice too.
They keep allowing stupid customization that let people do things inappropriate to the setting, it would be only fair to allow customization to allow people to adjust their personal experience back to semi-canon as well.
There is no reason for there to be a "compromise." Your neighbors can drive a clown car if they want to and if you don't want to see it, tough luck. Close your eyes or look away.
I have a better idea.
If you want to fly clown ships - go play Circus Trek Online.
And leave Star Trek Online to those how prefer colour schemes, which don't cause the gag reflex.
I have a better idea.
If you want to fly clown ships - go play Circus Trek Online.
And leave Star Trek Online to those how prefer colour schemes, which don't cause the gag reflex.
There's only one problem for you, the devs seem to disagree with you, if that color palette is any indication.
Hmm. You really have to read the thread before answering - quite a number of people find this idea ill-conceived, to tell the least.
It seems like a completely needless concern.
I can make pink ships right now in the game. In fact, I have done so.
At least as "pink" as you can get them with the available patterns. The new system isn't going to change this. It just expands the possible number of colors, but the dominant colors on any ship (otehr than the Risan Corvette and Risan Cruiser, which already have a different palette and have patterns that affect all of the hull) will still be based on the ship materials.
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
Yes, at least if your standard of abuse is "anything I don't like." :rolleyes:
As far as I'm concerned, it isn't in any way possible to "abuse" color schemes.
I agree. I'm in love with the new colors! I'm already flying a purple ship so I don't see much difference... Lol
My problem is with all these hothouse Orchids saying that it should all be taken away so they can better enjoy their 'immersion' at the cost of everyone else's enjoyment. But it's an entitlement mentality that's been ingrained in them since preschool so there's not much we can do about it.
It looks stupid. No, I don't have to impose my will on any of you, "Special Snowflake Look at MEEeeee!!!" types. I am going to make it clear that your ship will look ridiculous and you should feel embarrassed for presenting it (and yourself by extension) in that manner.
posted by samt1996
I've said it once and I'll say it again, if you don't like my artwork than go to a different zone or stay in a mission zone. But I find it silly that I should have to put up with TRIBBLE just because I like having choices and using them.
Your artwork? You must gone through a school system that gave you stickers for "tying" your velcro sneakers. Slapping two prefab colours into two predesignated patterns is not art. If it is my cat is quite the artist. Maybe you should send her some of your stickers.
I thank you for exercising your "freedom" to express yourself and I welcome it. While the stupid colours on ships will be an eyesore it is a more insidious means of getting a "douche" to come forward and self label. Thank you for your willingness to cooperate.
It is not polite to call people douches. I might have selected another word but you seem comfortable throwing it around so it shouldn't have offended your sensibilities. There is nothing wrong with having choices but the choices we do make speak volumes about who we are.
My problem is with all these hothouse Orchids saying that it should all be taken away so they can better enjoy their 'immersion' at the cost of everyone else's enjoyment. But it's an entitlement mentality that's been ingrained in them since preschool so there's not much we can do about it.
What I love about such line of argument that it can reversed and applied to the position of the person, who uses it, in exactly same wording with some minor substitutes. :D:D
Because there is no real backing behind it. :P
My problem is with all these hothouse Orchids saying that it should all be taken away so they can better enjoy their 'immersion' at the cost of everyone else's enjoyment. But it's an entitlement mentality that's been ingrained in them since preschool so there's not much we can do about it.
You try to go in to a Pizza Hut and order fish sticks...don't you.
Hmm. You really have to read the thread before answering - quite a number of people find this idea ill-conceived, to tell the least.
As for the devs, everyone can remember a number of occasions, when they made a wrong decision, which they had later to revise.
And they were quite a number of MMOs, which managed to ruined their own setting, by giving the players inappropriate customization options.
It wouldn't surprise me if they roll back this idea or at least revise it at some point. I can just see it becoming a mess and players running amok with it to comical levels.
I can make pink ships right now in the game. In fact, I have done so.
At least as "pink" as you can get them with the available patterns. The new system isn't going to change this. It just expands the possible number of colors, but the dominant colors on any ship (otehr than the Risan Corvette and Risan Cruiser, which already have a different palette and have patterns that affect all of the hull) will still be based on the ship materials.
It is needless. But you know, mountains out of molehills.
I would guess we'll see all sorts of fruity colour combinations in the first few weeks of such a change being added, and after that everyone will revert back to their standard look.
And in a game that already has plenty of silly looking ship designs and shield textures, who cares if a few ships you encounter for seconds in sector space or in a random pug has pink go faster stripes?
Is it really any worse than a Federation ship using the Dominion shield texture?
It looks stupid. No, I don't have to impose my will on any of you, "Special Snowflake Look at MEEeeee!!!" types. I am going to make it clear that your ship will look ridiculous and you should feel embarrassed for presenting it (and yourself by extension) in that manner.
Your artwork? You must gone through a school system that gave you stickers for "tying" your velcro sneakers. Slapping two prefab colours into two predesignated patterns is not art. If it is my cat is quite the artist. Maybe you should send her some of your stickers.
I thank you for exercising your "freedom" to express yourself and I welcome it. While the stupid colours on ships will be an eyesore it is a more insidious means of getting a "douche" to come forward and self label. Thank you for your willingness to cooperate.
It is not polite to call people douches. I might have selected another word but you seem comfortable throwing it around so it shouldn't have offended your sensibilities. There is nothing wrong with having choices but the choices we do make speak volumes about who we are.
Is there a point lurking beneath the depths of all this piffle? If me flying a pink Bird of Prey (In honor of the latest feature episode no less) offends you so much i suggest you lock yourself in your house and throw away your computer. Because someone is always gonna be doing something that offends you.
As to my 'artwork' anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see the obvious sarcasm dripping from nearly all my posts. :rolleyes:
I will design my ships according to the role-playing I feel like doing that particular day, I suggest you do the same. I don't think nearly as many people are going to abuse this as y'all seem to think.
Choices are indicative of ones personality yes, I'm TRIBBLE and I want to fly a pink ship. You got a problem with that?
It's a good thing the forums are the minority, and that this isn't tied to PvP in any way.
I've seen plenty more players in-game want wider color variety. Sure there's going to be some bad apples, but the novelty of running around in Pink ships outside of Breast Cancer Awareness Month will not last long for most.
I do expect one certain Fleet to go wild with the colors though, and attempt to throw a disco ship rave in space somehow.
As well, Even if you went all white (Veteran Romulan skin), it will still end up muted some in a fair number of space maps.
It's a good thing the forums are the minority, and that this isn't tied to PvP in any way.
I've seen plenty more players in-game want wider color variety. Sure there's going to be some bad apples, but the novelty of running around in Pink ships outside of Breast Cancer Awareness Month will not last long for most.
I do expect one certain Fleet to go wild with the colors though, and attempt to throw a disco ship rave in space somehow.
As well, Even if you went all white (Veteran Romulan skin), it will still end up muted some in a fair number of space maps.
Yeah. Not sure they're really doing the community any favors with this 'colors gone wild' idea. Our ships in the sky will look like overly colorful toys in a sandbox: not really dignified (and thus harming immersion).
I'm all for more ship skins, and more customization in general. Not sure all lolwut clown-colors in the sky is the way to go, though.
Our lastest recruiting poster features one of my warbirds in LIVE (not Tribble) with Veteran skin and Veteran 4 pattern (might have Virgo or Corvus on some section, but I don't remember; I've had that character in that ship since ... well, since before Delta Recruitment, at least), with Violet and Green: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TkjN1Zt33cc/VWs1jV5pz4I/AAAAAAAAB-U/YXjPLsYVh2Q/s1600/Ready_for_ANYthing_-_Recruiting.jpg
This isn't the best pic I could show you, but I would have to upload more. This color thing has been going on for some time already, although considerably more limited in scope. I'm for more player choice and less limitations.
And fwiw, since Klingon blood is pink, maybe Klling'hannsu have different associations with pink than the Terrhasu do.
And fwiw, since Klingon blood is pink, maybe Klling'hannsu have different associations with pink than the Terrhasu do.
Klingons have pink ships for the same reason Romulans have green ones, blood is intimidating.
However Klingon blood is red every single time it's shown except once, and that may just be because of the effects of the lack of gravity or something.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
You try to go in to a Starbucks and order water... don't you.
You go in the ladies' restroom and look for the urinal...don't you.
edit: Er, besides, getting water at a Starbucks would be something one could expect to be able to get. Guess it's not just the entitlement mentality that you don't understand...
Somebody logging into a Star Trek game and expecting it to look like a Star Trek game is kind of entitled to it looking like a Star Trek game.
Somebody logging into a Star Trek game and expecting it not to look like a Star Trek game cause they like something else is kind of experiencing entitlement mentality issues.
You're not the former, you're complaining about the former...makes you the latter.
Maybe we can go into the restroom at Starbucks and get water from the sink? I have a flask I carry around.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
You go in the ladies' restroom and look for the urinal...don't you.
I did by accident once. :eek: Fortunately, it wasn't during lunch rush (post-lunch rush at an out-of-the-way cafe; so little to no customers), and after realizing the error, just ran out and over to the proper restroom.
edit: Er, besides, getting water at a Starbucks would be something one could expect to be able to get. Guess it's not just the entitlement mentality that you don't understand...
Most places stateside that aren't 5 Star exclusive facilities offer free water; often in one of those flimsy disposable plastic cups (most of the time RO; sometimes tap). In fact, the local Starbucks in my area offer free RO filtered water in glass pitchers (you pour it yourself into the flimsy cups), set near the napkins and straws. The pitchers are often stored full in the fridge, so the water is almost always cold.
My problem is with all these hothouse Orchids saying that it should all be taken away so they can better enjoy their 'immersion' at the cost of everyone else's enjoyment. But it's an entitlement mentality that's been ingrained in them since preschool so there's not much we can do about it.
Amazing how you got this figured entirely backwards! It's ere the mentality of "I just want my ridiculous color schemes, because I feel entitled, and damn any and all suspension of disbelief (= immersion) others may get out of the game!"
You're from the generation that invented selfies, right?! Your egocentrism has been ingrained into you since preschool, so no wonder you can only see any attempts to temper it as entitlement of others. Typical.
Hmm, considering that ship customizations has been around since 'way back when' I think 'Immersion' is a bit of a late argument...
Also, many custom variants of starships currently in game (before the updated palette) can be considered 'immersion breaking' or a downright eyesore.
As far as I'm concerned so long as somone flying a great big eyesore doesn't purposefully wave their nacelles in my face I don't care if their ship looks like it should be standing on a corner somewhere...:o
I actually like to have more options in the Tailor (ground and space, Ideally), this is a step in the right direction.
Mind you, I probably won't be using most of the new options, I do like to have an 'authentic' ship to fly around every now and then.
Amazing how you got this figured entirely backwards! It's ere the mentality of "I just want my ridiculous color schemes, because I feel entitled, and damn any and all suspension of disbelief (= immersion) others may get out of the game!"
You're from the generation that invented selfies, right?! Your egocentrism has been ingrained into you since preschool, so no wonder you can only see any attempts to temper it as entitlement of others. Typical.
Define 'rediculous color schemes' because I think they look just fine. Your opinion is that you don't like them, so that means everyone else shouldn't like them. Unfortunately for you, the human race abandoned such archaic practices centuries ago.
I'm likely younger than you but that's beside the point. Way to go pulling the age card, I doff my cap to your unassailable logic. :rolleyes:
You can't see past your own nose better than any other human being, you pass off your opinions as law and get pissy when people tell you they're not. Typical old person, Typical human.
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Can we at least make Sector space even more empty. I don't want to see these clown cars.
I'd love a switch to turn stuff like this off.
Yes, at least if your standard of abuse is "anything I don't like." :rolleyes:
As far as I'm concerned, it isn't in any way possible to "abuse" color schemes.
It will be reasonable compromise.
What about mah delicate Immurshun?!?
There is no reason for there to be a "compromise." Your neighbors can drive a clown car if they want to and if you don't want to see it, tough luck. Close your eyes or look away.
I'd like to just be able to take other players off my screen when not in a social hub. Much nicer and much more like the show. But one for standard skins would work as well.
Lower Sector player density (it seem to have increased of late for some reason) and a switch to return the light levels back to what the Sector re-vamp was original would be nice too.
They keep allowing stupid customization that let people do things inappropriate to the setting, it would be only fair to allow customization to allow people to adjust their personal experience back to semi-canon as well.
If you want to fly clown ships - go play Circus Trek Online.
And leave Star Trek Online to those how prefer colour schemes, which don't cause the gag reflex.
There's only one problem for you, the devs seem to disagree with you, if that color palette is any indication.
As for the devs, everyone can remember a number of occasions, when they made a wrong decision, which they had later to revise.
And they were quite a number of MMOs, which managed to ruined their own setting, by giving the players inappropriate customization options.
It seems like a completely needless concern.
I can make pink ships right now in the game. In fact, I have done so.
At least as "pink" as you can get them with the available patterns. The new system isn't going to change this. It just expands the possible number of colors, but the dominant colors on any ship (otehr than the Risan Corvette and Risan Cruiser, which already have a different palette and have patterns that affect all of the hull) will still be based on the ship materials.
I agree. I'm in love with the new colors! I'm already flying a purple ship so I don't see much difference... Lol
My problem is with all these hothouse Orchids saying that it should all be taken away so they can better enjoy their 'immersion' at the cost of everyone else's enjoyment. But it's an entitlement mentality that's been ingrained in them since preschool so there's not much we can do about it.
Just wait until the LGBT fleets get their hands on the new pallets... 😂
Your artwork? You must gone through a school system that gave you stickers for "tying" your velcro sneakers. Slapping two prefab colours into two predesignated patterns is not art. If it is my cat is quite the artist. Maybe you should send her some of your stickers.
I thank you for exercising your "freedom" to express yourself and I welcome it. While the stupid colours on ships will be an eyesore it is a more insidious means of getting a "douche" to come forward and self label. Thank you for your willingness to cooperate.
It is not polite to call people douches. I might have selected another word but you seem comfortable throwing it around so it shouldn't have offended your sensibilities. There is nothing wrong with having choices but the choices we do make speak volumes about who we are.
What I love about such line of argument that it can reversed and applied to the position of the person, who uses it, in exactly same wording with some minor substitutes.
Because there is no real backing behind it. :P
You try to go in to a Pizza Hut and order fish sticks...don't you.
It wouldn't surprise me if they roll back this idea or at least revise it at some point. I can just see it becoming a mess and players running amok with it to comical levels.
It is needless. But you know, mountains out of molehills.
I would guess we'll see all sorts of fruity colour combinations in the first few weeks of such a change being added, and after that everyone will revert back to their standard look.
And in a game that already has plenty of silly looking ship designs and shield textures, who cares if a few ships you encounter for seconds in sector space or in a random pug has pink go faster stripes?
Is it really any worse than a Federation ship using the Dominion shield texture?
Is there a point lurking beneath the depths of all this piffle? If me flying a pink Bird of Prey (In honor of the latest feature episode no less) offends you so much i suggest you lock yourself in your house and throw away your computer. Because someone is always gonna be doing something that offends you.
As to my 'artwork' anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see the obvious sarcasm dripping from nearly all my posts. :rolleyes:
I will design my ships according to the role-playing I feel like doing that particular day, I suggest you do the same. I don't think nearly as many people are going to abuse this as y'all seem to think.
Choices are indicative of ones personality yes, I'm TRIBBLE and I want to fly a pink ship. You got a problem with that?
You try to go in to a Starbucks and order water... don't you.
I've seen plenty more players in-game want wider color variety. Sure there's going to be some bad apples, but the novelty of running around in Pink ships outside of Breast Cancer Awareness Month will not last long for most.
I do expect one certain Fleet to go wild with the colors though, and attempt to throw a disco ship rave in space somehow.
As well, Even if you went all white (Veteran Romulan skin), it will still end up muted some in a fair number of space maps.
Ah yes, those idiot toothbrush people.
Still a small price to pay.
Our lastest recruiting poster features one of my warbirds in LIVE (not Tribble) with Veteran skin and Veteran 4 pattern (might have Virgo or Corvus on some section, but I don't remember; I've had that character in that ship since ... well, since before Delta Recruitment, at least), with Violet and Green:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TkjN1Zt33cc/VWs1jV5pz4I/AAAAAAAAB-U/YXjPLsYVh2Q/s1600/Ready_for_ANYthing_-_Recruiting.jpg
This isn't the best pic I could show you, but I would have to upload more. This color thing has been going on for some time already, although considerably more limited in scope. I'm for more player choice and less limitations.
And fwiw, since Klingon blood is pink, maybe Klling'hannsu have different associations with pink than the Terrhasu do.
Klingons have pink ships for the same reason Romulans have green ones, blood is intimidating.
However Klingon blood is red every single time it's shown except once, and that may just be because of the effects of the lack of gravity or something.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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You go in the ladies' restroom and look for the urinal...don't you.
edit: Er, besides, getting water at a Starbucks would be something one could expect to be able to get. Guess it's not just the entitlement mentality that you don't understand...
Somebody logging into a Star Trek game and expecting it to look like a Star Trek game is kind of entitled to it looking like a Star Trek game.
Somebody logging into a Star Trek game and expecting it not to look like a Star Trek game cause they like something else is kind of experiencing entitlement mentality issues.
You're not the former, you're complaining about the former...makes you the latter.
Most places stateside that aren't 5 Star exclusive facilities offer free water; often in one of those flimsy disposable plastic cups (most of the time RO; sometimes tap). In fact, the local Starbucks in my area offer free RO filtered water in glass pitchers (you pour it yourself into the flimsy cups), set near the napkins and straws. The pitchers are often stored full in the fridge, so the water is almost always cold.
Amazing how you got this figured entirely backwards! It's ere the mentality of "I just want my ridiculous color schemes, because I feel entitled, and damn any and all suspension of disbelief (= immersion) others may get out of the game!"
You're from the generation that invented selfies, right?! Your egocentrism has been ingrained into you since preschool, so no wonder you can only see any attempts to temper it as entitlement of others. Typical.
Also, many custom variants of starships currently in game (before the updated palette) can be considered 'immersion breaking' or a downright eyesore.
As far as I'm concerned so long as somone flying a great big eyesore doesn't purposefully wave their nacelles in my face I don't care if their ship looks like it should be standing on a corner somewhere...:o
I actually like to have more options in the Tailor (ground and space, Ideally), this is a step in the right direction.
Mind you, I probably won't be using most of the new options, I do like to have an 'authentic' ship to fly around every now and then.
Define 'rediculous color schemes' because I think they look just fine. Your opinion is that you don't like them, so that means everyone else shouldn't like them. Unfortunately for you, the human race abandoned such archaic practices centuries ago.
I'm likely younger than you but that's beside the point. Way to go pulling the age card, I doff my cap to your unassailable logic. :rolleyes:
You can't see past your own nose better than any other human being, you pass off your opinions as law and get pissy when people tell you they're not. Typical old person, Typical human.