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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Shall I make the obligatory 'Monty Python and The Holy Grail' joke, milord?
    Fitting with the current lag.
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  • sanatobasanatoba Member Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    huskerklg wrote: »
    Has anyone tested Chronoton Torp / mine damage compared to other types on them? Any significant jump like Anti-proton on Borg?

    Time for new energy weapon, chroniton beams and cannons! Or is it Anti-chronoton that we need?




    And what is with the Ferengi Icon? On the poster it is facing one way, for Avatars it is another. don't symbols like this have a certain direction they are suppose to face when used like on flags?

    Anti-chroniton. Definately. My vote is with new anti-chroniton weapons. Anti-chronitons should annihilate chronitons, just like matter and anti-matter. Look what happened in the TNG episode "All Good Things...". It was an ''anti-time" anomaly, probably producing anti-chronitons. If they can do that to the crew of the Enterprise, just imagine what they could do to the time sensitive Iconians!

    And Crusher particles may help too.
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  • christopher0184christopher0184 Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    speaking of donatra what happened to her? we know she escaped after we destroyed the assimilated scimitar.

    I've always wondered about that myself.
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  • khaosworks101khaosworks101 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    The latest issue of Star Trek magazine has a STO fiction ("Without Keys", Part 1 by Christine Thompson of Cryptic) which has Tuvok and VanZyl go into Krenim space to seek an answer as to why the Vaadwaur went after them first.

    The instructive lines are these: "Interestingly, one of the first places Gaul and the Vaadwaur attacked during the war was the Krenim Imperium, and they weren't trying to conquer it. This was a "sweep and clear" mission. As far as we know, the Krenim are functionally extinct."

    So yeah, probably a few scattered refugees out there, but the Krenim are no more.
  • eradicator84eradicator84 Member Posts: 1,116 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Why is the Borg on the unite poster? Unless it's supposed to represent Liberated Borg?
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  • xiaoping88xiaoping88 Member Posts: 1,493 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Why is the Borg on the unite poster? Unless it's supposed to represent Liberated Borg?

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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Fitting with the current lag.

    You sir win the thread everyone else can go home now :D
  • x6460x6460 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Maybe the Gorn Confederation symbol is there because of.

    Time Travel,.. dunno. Going back to before the Klingon Empire did it's assimilation of various races thing maybe?
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    The Gorn may have been conquered by the Klingon Empire, but that doesn't mean they have no government. Every planet in the Federation probably has its own government, there is just another government "above" it. And the Gorn are a large enough group inside the KDF to warrant their own symbol.
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  • oldravenman3025oldravenman3025 Member Posts: 1,892 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    iconians wrote: »
    Didn't the Romulan Republic literally only just recently set up shop on New Romulus? How can you even say it's centuries of your history when the proto-romulans abandoned the world and forgot it ever existed for those centuries waiting for the half-life of radioactive isotopes so you wouldn't be forced to live on a gigantic cancer ball?



    The same D'Tan who thought it'd be a great idea to activate an Iconian Gateway in the same lava tube that created a cataclysmic seismic event on a global scale around 150,000 years ago that coincidentally resulted in the extinction of the Dewans? Despite literally not knowing or anticipating the consequences of said action?



    Alright, forgetting for a moment D'Tan made a bad judgment call on the Iconian Gateway, this is the same D'Tan who was the protege of Spock... you know, the guy who Nero held responsible for Romulus' destruction.

    I still find it difficult to believe that romulans are able to respect (and make Proconsul) a guy connected the extremely controversial Reunification movement and the understudy of the guy that can easily be held accountable for failing to save Romulus.



    Hey, awesome. Admiral Kererek who had an inspiring speech about how we probably couldn't win against the Iconians.



    That's rich coming from the lady who thinks a system of government should be based off of finding an ancient sword.




    Don't forget that our favorite little science lady also takes it upon herself to claim Federation systems for the Republic.
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Don't forget that our favorite little science lady also takes it upon herself to claim Federation systems for the Republic.

    Yeah, that was something that annoyed me - the Federation and Klingon Empire agreed to support the establishment of New Romulus, not cede any of their systems to the Romulan Republic and the Jouret system was definitely a Federation system; it's the site of the Borg attack in TNG: "Best of Both Worlds", the one where the entire colony was scooped out of the ground.
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  • alexhaydenalexhayden Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    So let me get this straight.

    We have a Romulan Scientist despairing over the losses suffered in the opening shots of the Iconian War and musing on the daydream of time travel to change things. This in a galaxy that contains frankly the Federation's worst kept and unsecured secret (One hundred and forty three years and the only security around the Guardian of Forever is a Starfleet General Order?). A galaxy where the Bajorans have for the past thirty seven years held possession of a time travelling orb. A galaxy where each of the three major powers have organizations dealing with time, Section 31 has a working slingshot network set up in the restricted Bepi 113 system, the Tholians are experimenting with time travel and access to the classified files on Spock's time travel computations in 2268 and 2286 plus the players' creation of their own Devidian portals at Drozana could be handed over, bought for the right amount of gold pressed Latinum or simply stolen.

    We are also talking about a galaxy where although the Krenim might well have been wiped out by the Vaadwaur their temporal technology might not, where by the early 25th Century it's entirely possible that the Vorgons are in the early stages of the time travel experiments that they'd perfect by the 27th (unless of course they are busy destroying worlds in the path of their intergalactic highway..), where a historian in a time pod from the 26th Century could appear at any time for a little research into New Romulus' early years, where the mystery benefactor of the Suliban, the Na'kuhl, the Sphere builders or any as yet unmentioned participant of the temporal cold war might be very keen to assist a well intentioned but desperate Romulan scientist alter the timeline and where there is always the possibility of any surviving "siblings" of the Iconians appearing and in their own self interests offering a temporal helping hand...

    Countless choices. So I don't think it's a question of 'if' or 'when' A'dranna will manipulate time..but how.

    Unless of course Laughing Trendy has just dished up a red herring.. 😃
  • claudiusdkclaudiusdk Member Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    /nerdmode on
    Not to sidetrack or anything but: http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/arc/eb/18/eb188e0b03c75b44640097d7f77a0be11430846887.png

    Why is the Borg Collective icon/logo on this image? They aren't working with us. Shouldn't it be The Cooperative logo?
    And I don't think the Star Empire is helping us. Neither is the Dominion or the Breen.

    And the Gorn Confederation logo above the Borg? What happend to the Gorn Hegemony logo?

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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    the only thing of interest in all that are the emblems of the various groups involved.

    ufp, kdf, rr, ire!, breen?!, dominion??, ferengi, vulcan(not sure why they are a seperate part, they are apart of the federation), borg? (liberated or both?), cardassian and a few others.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    alexhayden wrote: »
    So let me get this straight.

    We have a Romulan Scientist despairing over the losses suffered in the opening shots of the Iconian War and musing on the daydream of time travel to change things. This in a galaxy that contains frankly the Federation's worst kept and unsecured secret (One hundred and forty three years and the only security around the Guardian of Forever is a Starfleet General Order?). A galaxy where the Bajorans have for the past thirty seven years held possession of a time travelling orb. A galaxy where each of the three major powers have organizations dealing with time, Section 31 has a working slingshot network set up in the restricted Bepi 113 system, the Tholians are experimenting with time travel and access to the classified files on Spock's time travel computations in 2268 and 2286 plus the players' creation of their own Devidian portals at Drozana could be handed over, bought for the right amount of gold pressed Latinum or simply stolen.

    We are also talking about a galaxy where although the Krenim might well have been wiped out by the Vaadwaur their temporal technology might not, where by the early 25th Century it's entirely possible that the Vorgons are in the early stages of the time travel experiments that they'd perfect by the 27th (unless of course they are busy destroying worlds in the path of their intergalactic highway..), where a historian in a time pod from the 26th Century could appear at any time for a little research into New Romulus' early years, where the mystery benefactor of the Suliban, the Na'kuhl, the Sphere builders or any as yet unmentioned participant of the temporal cold war might be very keen to assist a well intentioned but desperate Romulan scientist alter the timeline and where there is always the possibility of any surviving "siblings" of the Iconians appearing and in their own self interests offering a temporal helping hand...

    Countless choices. So I don't think it's a question of 'if' or 'when' A'dranna will manipulate time..but how.

    Unless of course Laughing Trendy has just dished up a red herring.. 😃

    countless? more like disasterous. its that temptation that those in power are responsible and not to use these advantages that would destroy the timeline just to save themselves. besides you got temporal agents who would stop these changes from happening anyway, or at least correct them.
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  • kianazerokianazero Member Posts: 247 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    There is no Undine logo in the poster. And the logo you're referring to is the logo of the Gorn Confederation which doesn't make sense since:
    1/ It's a logo from the game ST: Starfleet Command
    2/ In STO, the cofnederation is called the Gorn Hegemony and they already have a LOGO in STO
    3/ Said STO logo is used in another recent propaganda poster.

    Wait a minute, from ST: Starfleet Command...this is a stretch

    And I mean a HUGE stretch!

    But could this be a subtle hint that STO has gotten (some of?) the rights to publish Starfleet Command ships, characters, groups, etc?

    I mean, it's more than likely just a mistake, one of the higher-ups told the artist "Yeah, that looks good. Just set up a border of the groups' insignia and we'll put it up." 'Alrighty boss. Ok, got the Fed, KDF, Breen, Borg, umm...lesse, where's that Gorn..government..what was it called? Supremacy? Hegemony? Confederation? Is that one it? Yeah, that should be it.' and it was put in.

    But it could mean that STO has the rights, and that could be awesome.

    Wishful thinking on my part, I know. But still.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    kianazero wrote: »
    Wait a minute, from ST: Starfleet Command...this is a stretch

    And I mean a HUGE stretch!

    But could this be a subtle hint that STO has gotten (some of?) the rights to publish Starfleet Command ships, characters, groups, etc?

    I mean, it's more than likely just a mistake, one of the higher-ups told the artist "Yeah, that looks good. Just set up a border of the groups' insignia and we'll put it up." 'Alrighty boss. Ok, got the Fed, KDF, Breen, Borg, umm...lesse, where's that Gorn..government..what was it called? Supremacy? Hegemony? Confederation? Is that one it? Yeah, that should be it.' and it was put in.

    But it could mean that STO has the rights, and that could be awesome.

    Wishful thinking on my part, I know. But still.

    more like they didnt have the time to work on it in great detail and decided to pull one up off google?

    i mean coming up with a whole array of new faction emblems, that would take some debating and then working out how to best show the faction emblem in the right colors, or adjustments needing to be made, it would need to be signed off on and so on. thats a lot of money, resources and work for something so.. insignifcant. why not just troll google for a quick emblem?
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  • qrtrmstrqrtrmstr Member Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    bberge1701 wrote: »
    No Undine icon there. Clockwise, from upper left:
    • Federation
    • Romulan Republic
    • Klingon Empire
    • Breen
    • Dominion
    • Cardassian
    • Andorian
    • Romulan Star Empire
    • Ferengi
    • Borg
    • (I have no idea what this one is, but it's definitely not Undine)
    • Vulcan

    This is the Undine symbol.

    I have a feeling this is leading us into a new story mission. I believe Al "Captain Geko" Riviera has said there are more coming.

    That one, that you have no idea about, it's the logo for the Gorn faction.
  • canis36canis36 Member Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    yuzral wrote: »
    And for a really 'out there' scenario...obviously we can 'cheat' by sending research projects back into the Iconian's dormant period, doing them there and sending the results forward. But what if we take it a bit further. What if we're the ones who bombed Iconia out in the first place (or at least did a Mass Effect and got the locals riled)?

    DTI are going to have heart attacks.

    I am actually rather fervently hoping that we are, in fact, responsible for the glassing of Iconia in the past. Because that would not only be awesome from a gameplay standpoint, but from a storytelling perspective it would be incredibly interesting.
    jake477 wrote: »
    This A'dranna is very troubling, I wonder if she is driven by guilt or revenge. She opened the Gateways and made it possible for this whole thing to happen and she was also used by the enemy to further their goals. My guess is she uses the Guardian of Forever to correct history like Bones tried and end up costing the war for the Alliance only to have us save her and the Alliance and being thrown back into a no win war.

    The way I see it, the Guardian is just as dangerous as the Gateways whether the intentions are good or bad. We should destroy it or we might find ourselves with B'Vat 2.0.

    A sad reality but a logical reality. A couple of high yield quantums should do it, quick and painless.


    The Guardian is more dangerous than the Gateway network created by the Iconians and that's recognized in-universe by the fact that it's one of a very, very small handfuls of planets that merely going to (not even setting foot on) can net you the death penalty. In the Federation.

    Yeah. Think about that for a minute. Outside of some very extreme circumstances if you don't have permission from the Admiralty going to the planet with the Guardian is an automatic death penalty from a polity that has more than once been compared to a hippy commune.

    As for destroying the Guardian...I don't recall if it was a book, comic book, or a line on-screen in the episode, but I'm fairly certain that it's not possible for any of the known temporal powers (save maybe the Iconians) to destroy the Guardian...and it's own lines in-game make me doubt that even the Q could destroy it.
    huskerklg wrote: »
    One question though, what ruins are they talking about? Ruins on New Romulus? Those wouldn't be Romulan ruins, so it isn't their history being destroyed.

    Actually they are Romulan ruins from a settlement that was briefly built and occupied by the Rihhannsu before they found and settled the twin worlds of Romulus and Remus. They had to abandon it due to rising radiation levels, though the implication is that in the current time such a thing would be a relatively minor problem to deal with thanks to advancing technology.
  • marcusblackwell7marcusblackwell7 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    First off, surprised at the inclusion of the Cardassian, Dominion,Borg and Undine icons on the image.



    I can only find one icon I am not familiar with, the one to the left of "UNITE".

    As for the Krenim, it is already established that the Vaadwaur wiped them out at the beginning of the Delta Rising Expansion to prevent us using the Time-weapon technologies.

    There are only 3 remaining known entities dealing with time left:

    1) Q-Continuum, which has no stake in it and probably will not interfere.
    2) Prophets, again, nonlinear entities that do not concern themselves with our issues.
    3) Guardian of Forever, most likely plot point, but how it would be used is tricky. We've always had to fix whatever was changed by using it.

    I Agree with you why Tease us with all these alies and not have them in game Worf even said the dominon was in danger when he seen gates into there world as well. Odo is the ambassador to the soilds so why give is A FLASE Flag.
  • wayofderawayofdera Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Cryptic,

    Bring back Romulus, all will be forgiven for the last 5 years of bugs and lack of content.;)
  • crowley875crowley875 Member Posts: 187 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I never understood the stardate indications in these blog posts. They're all starting with 87***.*. But ingame everything's at 92***.*? Is it something I missed?
  • alexhaydenalexhayden Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    crowley875 wrote: »
    I never understood the stardate indications in these blog posts. They're all starting with 87***.*. But ingame everything's at 92***.*? Is it something I missed?


    Nope.

    If you follow the Next Generation rule on Seasons / Stardates, then 40 years after the seventh season (2370) would put you in 2410 and a stardate starting in 87. Pretty much as Laughing Trendy has been doing. But as you pointed out the stardates ingame are a bit out of sync and would correspond to the year 2415.

    Soooo...you can either go with the option of assuming the game is progressing in real time and the Iconian War is happening in 2415, or that there are major gremlins in your ship's computer and the stardate entries on your log in 2410 are out by five years.

    Or you could just accept it as what is technically known as a "**** up".
  • shevetshevet Member Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Having read that lot, the first thing that popped into my mind was "hmm, she wants to turn back time".

    The second thing that popped into my mind was the song, "If I Could Turn Back Time", together with a mental image of A'dranna singing it, dressed in Cher's outfit.

    Please let me know where I should send the bill for therapy.
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  • alchevsk1992alchevsk1992 Member Posts: 280 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    nynik wrote: »
    unless it is there to represent those Gorn who are part of a separatist movement to reinstate the Hegemony on Nimbus III - who I murdered mercilessly as a Starfleet officer late last night.

    Lol, you killed it with that line :D
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  • alchevsk1992alchevsk1992 Member Posts: 280 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    xiaoping88 wrote: »
    That scenario is almost as ludicrous as Russia invading all of Europe and the US at once... you know, like in these ultra realistic CoD games. :rolleyes:

    I played that CoD game and I was stupefied by what I saw. I'm Russian and I even think that it is beyond impossible for Russia to do that. These CoD games make so much fantasy bull.

    But I agree the Krenim aren't wiped out, but simply conquered. Hopefully there would be a mission where you have to go to Krenim - Vaadwaur occupied space and attempt to drive them out or try to rescue the Krenim people.
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Gotta remember;
    Despite the True Way and Alpha Jem'hadar's actions the Cardassian Union is a Federation ally/protectorate and the Dominion are probably on the Iconians' hit list after Vandros IV ("Sphere of Influence" even states that the Iconians want to keep the locations of Gateways in Dominion space secret until they've acchieved overwhelming force against the Dominion), the 'Borg Hand' actually belongs more to Hugh and the Cooperative than the Collective since it first appeared in TNG: "Descent" as the symbol for Lore's splinter group of Borg, and STO: "Mindscape" did end with the Undine Command Bioship 'repurposing' Cooper after Tuvok convinced it that cooperation was strength, even against the Iconians.
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  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Yup. against the Iconians time would be a valid weapon.

    If this war will lead to the the use of time as a weapon, then it's use will almost certainly lead to the Temporal Cold War. The beginnings of it as least.
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    edited May 2015
    Is there a 16:9 version of this to use as desktop wallpaper?
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    edited May 2015
    If you ask an Iconian what time is it, does it kill them? :P
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