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Tales of the War #3

pwlaughingtrendypwlaughingtrendy Member Posts: 2,966 Arc User
The ruins are gone. Centuries of our history immolated in minutes. It seems like anything the Heralds touch dissolves into ashes.

Our cities survived, but will we?

~LaughingTrendy
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  • hyperionx09hyperionx09 Member Posts: 1,709 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    This one is pretty interesting.

    Will she go down Taris' route (use of Iconian tech)? OR B'vat's (attempt to use time)?

    Or will she prove resistant enough to the forbidden and truly see it used for something beneficial?

    Hidden shelters seems like one valid idea, or channelling their flares into some other zone.

    BTW Trendy, it seems the story is missing something after "How about emergency shelters for civilians hidden". It just jumps to the next line.
  • strorusstrorus Member Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    One Word... "Krenim"
  • pwlaughingtrendypwlaughingtrendy Member Posts: 2,966 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    This one is pretty interesting.

    Will she go down Taris' route (use of Iconian tech)? OR B'vat's (attempt to use time)?

    Or will she prove resistant enough to the forbidden and truly see it used for something beneficial?

    Hidden shelters seems like one valid idea, or channelling their flares into some other zone.

    BTW Trendy, it seems the story is missing something after "How about emergency shelters for civilians hidden". It just jumps to the next line.
    Yesssssssssssss there was a word that was eaten away. Darn you, editor!
  • ussackermanussackerman Member Posts: 275 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2015
    First off, surprised at the inclusion of the Cardassian, Dominion,Borg and Undine icons on the image.



    I can only find one icon I am not familiar with, the one to the left of "UNITE".

    As for the Krenim, it is already established that the Vaadwaur wiped them out at the beginning of the Delta Rising Expansion to prevent us using the Time-weapon technologies.

    There are only 3 remaining known entities dealing with time left:

    1) Q-Continuum, which has no stake in it and probably will not interfere.
    2) Prophets, again, nonlinear entities that do not concern themselves with our issues.
    3) Guardian of Forever, most likely plot point, but how it would be used is tricky. We've always had to fix whatever was changed by using it.
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,165 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Heh interview me.. and I'll tell of how I was trampled to near death by the pink/purple cat things of New Romulus.

    You know things are bad when the wildlife is like "**** this."
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    *Shudders*

    A'dranna's track record of judgement isn't the best - she pushed for the Gateway activation in the first place despite objections from the engineering team (Malem, wasn't that the head engineer's name?), she was ready to put the Republic at odds with both the Federation and Klingon Empire over the Journet Gateway, if I remember what was found in Storage Facility Z98 correctly she's the one that the Solanae and Iconians used to sabotage the Gateway activation...

    And this 'Tale' gives me a bad feeling of what might happen if she ever discovers the Gateway planet and the Guardian of Forever - as we've seen in "City on the Edge of Forever" (TOS), "Yesteryear" (TAS) and "City on the Edge of Never" and "Past Imperfect" (STO - Fed), the Guardian has the power to do exactly what A'dranna (and Taris, for that matter) wants... and scientist or not, she doesn't really seem like the type to think through the repercussions...
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  • nyniknynik Member Posts: 1,628 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I think I need to buy more Ferengi war bonds.
  • giliongilion Member Posts: 686 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Wait a second, didnt Captain Paris say that the Gateway on New Romulus was destroyed during Blood of the Ancients? So why are the ruins still being held and how can she still be doing research?
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  • bberge1701bberge1701 Member Posts: 726 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2015
    First off, surprised at the inclusion of the Cardassian, Dominion,Borg and Undine icons on the image.

    No Undine icon there. Clockwise, from upper left:
    • Federation
    • Romulan Republic
    • Klingon Empire
    • Breen
    • Dominion
    • Cardassian
    • Andorian
    • Romulan Star Empire
    • Ferengi
    • Borg
    • (I have no idea what this one is, but it's definitely not Undine)
    • Vulcan

    This is the Undine symbol.

    I have a feeling this is leading us into a new story mission. I believe Al "Captain Geko" Riviera has said there are more coming.
  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited May 2015
    As for the Krenim, it is already established that the Vaadwaur wiped them out at the beginning of the Delta Rising Expansion to prevent us using the Time-weapon technologies.

    Actually, I don't think it said "wiped out." Just something like "conquered." Plus, "Dust to Dust" mentioned that Voyager was in Vaadwaur-controlled Krenim space... so it isn't out of the question, still.

    I'm more concerned with how Kestrel and the writing team would handle the Krenim, given the "magic reset button" Brannon Braga hit at the end of "Year of Hell." Sure, the audience knows about the Krenim and their capabilities, but the prime universe timeline should not. Voyager's only encounter that stuck was the 5-minute conversation that steered them away from Krenim space completely.
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  • megawolf0megawolf0 Member Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Somehow, I think she might be willing to do anything. And I don't know what, but I've a feeling there might be another episode involving her.
  • nyniknynik Member Posts: 1,628 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    bberge1701 wrote: »
    No Undine icon there. Clockwise, from upper left:
    • Federation
    • Romulan Republic
    • Klingon Empire
    • Breen
    • Dominion
    • Cardassian
    • Andorian
    • Romulan Star Empire
    • Ferengi
    • Borg
    • (I have no idea what this one is, but it's definitely not Undine)
    • Vulcan

    This is the Undine symbol.

    That is the symbol for the old Gorn Confederation (Hegemony?), which doesn't exist now - unless it is there to represent those Gorn who are part of a separatist movement to reinstate the Hegemony on Nimbus III - who I murdered mercilessly as a Starfleet officer late last night.
  • josephenglishjosephenglish Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Yeah I don't know what that one is either :/
  • bunansabunansa Member Posts: 928 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    That one symbol no one can figure out is the Dolphins singing so long and thanks for all the fish
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,165 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Yeah, it's the Gorn logo.
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  • guljarolguljarol Member Posts: 980 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Oh, lovely! Ms Overcondifent "I will work" Scientist thinks she can do it? Don't let her anywhere near anything important or we're going to become a homeless people again. First Hobus, then A'dranna. :eek:
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    First off, surprised at the inclusion of the Cardassian, Dominion,Borg and Undine icons on the image.



    I can only find one icon I am not familiar with, the one to the left of "UNITE".

    There is no Undine logo in the poster. And the logo you're referring to is the logo of the Gorn Confederation which doesn't make sense since:
    1/ It's a logo from the game ST: Starfleet Command
    2/ In STO, the cofnederation is called the Gorn Hegemony and they already have a LOGO in STO
    3/ Said STO logo is used in another recent propaganda poster.

    Also, I already mentioned that in another thread, but whoever thinks an alliance with the Borg is a good idea is a fool.

    Last time we allied with the Borg, we antagonized the only species immune to their assimilation and able to curbstomp them, forced them back to their own space, which allowed the Borg to continue assimilating more species.
    #TASforSTO
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  • xiaoping88xiaoping88 Member Posts: 1,493 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    nynik wrote: »
    That is the symbol for the old Gorn Confederation (Hegemony?), which doesn't exist now - unless it is there to represent those Gorn who are part of a separatist movement to reinstate the Hegemony on Nimbus III - who I murdered mercilessly as a Starfleet officer late last night.

    Isn't that the general Gorn symbol in STO?

    @Krenim: They were defeated by the Vaadwaur, not wiped out. Krenim space is supposedly vast. The Vaadwaur may have Iconian tech, but they were likely not able to wipe the Krenim completely out in a matter of weeks - while also waging war against all other major powers of the region, including the Borg and the Voth.

    That scenario is almost as ludicrous as Russia invading all of Europe and the US at once... you know, like in these ultra realistic CoD games. :rolleyes:
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  • ussackermanussackerman Member Posts: 275 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2015
    bberge1701 wrote: »
    No Undine icon there. Clockwise, from upper left:
    • Federation
    • Romulan Republic
    • Klingon Empire
    • Breen
    • Dominion
    • Cardassian
    • Andorian
    • Romulan Star Empire
    • Ferengi
    • Borg
    • (I have no idea what this one is, but it's definitely not Undine)
    • Vulcan

    This is the Undine symbol.

    I have a feeling this is leading us into a new story mission. I believe Al "Captain Geko" Riviera has said there are more coming.

    Yep. Realized my error...I thought the Breen emblem was Undine.

    Also, found the missing emblem....Memory Beta site says it is Gorn.
  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Man, I like A'dranna and I am thinking here 'So I guess we used up the old Taris and needed a new one?'

    Just for how this sort of thing usually goes. Not that the pursuit of knowledge is a bad goal or I think they're implying it here, just that A'dranna's going to forget safeguards.

    At least she's aware she's on dangerous ground, so better than Taris there.

    (Also, glad the gateway complex is confirmed to have survived. I worked hard to grind that rep).
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  • gravtronf2pgravtronf2p Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    "And if it did, would it be more power than anyone has a right to have?"

    Yes! So, after much thought and deep reflection, I have decided to take one for the team and take control of time travel. I know you all are thinking, "Who is this."
  • lordinsanelordinsane Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    xiaoping88 wrote: »
    @Krenim: They were defeated by the Vaadwaur, not wiped out. Krenim space is supposedly vast. The Vaadwaur may have Iconian tech, but they were likely not able to wipe the Krenim completely out in a matter of weeks - while also waging war against all other major powers of the region, including the Borg and the Voth.

    That scenario is almost as ludicrous as Russia invading all of Europe and the US at once... you know, like in these ultra realistic CoD games. :rolleyes:
    Even ignoring likelihood and what'd be ludicrous, if I recall correctly the description for Zahl explicitly confirms the survival of at least some Krenim, in the form of refugees.
  • oldkhemaraaoldkhemaraa Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Iconians... How to eliminate them...

    Move them in time.... They go insane...Catatonic..

    Something using croniton particles as a weapon to create a temporal interruption on the target should do the trick nicely.

    Do the heralds have the same vulnerability?

    Desperate Romulan scientists worry me.
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  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Interesting :)

    And quite dangerous, which makes it even more interesting :D
    What if we could create gateways of our own to get our ships into battle, or open gateways into nebulas to act as shields against the Heralds' solar flares? How about emergency shelters for civilians hidden away?

    Admiral Jegan Terel, who used to lead the Science department in the Dyson sphere and oversee all the efforts of adapting Dyson sphere technology, will be ready to assist A'dranna.



    Sidenote: adding these gateways to the game would be a nice opportunity for an Exploration revamp ;)
  • bioixibioixi Member Posts: 764 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Iconians... How to eliminate them...

    Move them in time.... They go insane...Catatonic..

    Something using croniton particles as a weapon to create a temporal interruption on the target should do the trick nicely.

    Do the heralds have the same vulnerability?

    Desperate Romulan scientists worry me.

    Use your triolic pattern enhancer, it displaces you a second in time, that should do the trick.
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Part of the reason I suspect the Guardian involves the Delta Recruit objective for "City on the Edge of Never", where it refers to the Iconians as the 'First Children', most likely the first creations of the Preservers, and comments that they were/are not permitted time travel because of their attitudes, basically.

    The fact that the Guardian seems to be a Preserver artifact, combined with the Iconians' targeting the only other major known Preserver artifact (The Archive), and has a relationship to time which is what A'dranna's 'Tale of War' talks about makes me think it will play some part in The Iconian War...
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  • xenificationxenification Member Posts: 615 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Iconians... How to eliminate them...

    Move them in time.... They go insane...Catatonic..

    Something using croniton particles as a weapon to create a temporal interruption on the target should do the trick nicely.

    Do the heralds have the same vulnerability?

    Desperate Romulan scientists worry me.

    dont need time travel or anything like that to kill iconians.


    they have chroniton particles in their minds or something right?

    so why not just make weapons that destroy chroniton particles...

    didnt we have something like that with the temporal lock box?
  • nathraelnathrael Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    A'dranna? Seriously? I have just lost any remaining respect I had for Romulan Republic security or counter-intelligence. In Sphere of Influence you find Solenae records about how A'dranna was captured and mind probed. Is a probe the only thing that was done? How can you be sure she was not altered, programmed, etc?

    The woman is compromised, and any intelligence service worthy of the name would see to it she did not have any security clearance whatsoever.

    First Sela's escape, now "Miss Iconia". Outlook is pretty grim...


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  • canis36canis36 Member Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    A very interesting log today.

    It makes me immensely curious as to what's going to happen in future episodes. And somewhat hopeful. We've had a few time-travel stories so far, but mostly they've been about stopping others from changing the past or reversing changes that have already been made.

    This suggests we might end up doing something a little different in the future.
  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    A'dranna wrote:
    I feel like I want to plunge my hands into time itself, shape and bend it to my will, change all that's happened and all that will happen … but I can't. The technology to do that simply doesn't exist.

    Ah, so this is likely why our Delta recruits' future selves are first seen in what appears to be the New Romulus gateway chamber.
    This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
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