Even if it is titanium it's a good defense against melee weapons.
Whatever material it is, I'd say its greatest use is indeed with melee weapons and shrapnel/flak/IED's. While I personally think it may cut down the intensity of an energy beam hit, I think of it as being quite limited in that capacity.
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Whatever material it is, I'd say its greatest use is indeed with melee weapons and shrapnel/flak/IED's. While I personally think it may cut down the intensity of an energy beam hit, I think of it as being quite limited in that capacity.
Yeah, electric or heat weapons would be lethal against metallic armor.
Shrapnel and flak, too; just like a longbow against a medieval knight. Melee weapons, there it's a great defense.
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Your link is busted.
Found a link for info on the Hazard Suit. I can make a pretty decent replica using parts available in game too.
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Starfleet made a gun (admittedly with some modifications) that can SHOOT THROUGH WALLS!
Then didn't use said gun at ALL during a war they were losing, or at best, at a stalemate in for a majority of the time they were fighting.
Point being, they might be smart, but they aren't necessarily brimming with common sense there in Starfleet.
Starfleet didn't. The TR-116 was a prototype of a very primitive type of firearm when dampening fields were interfering with conventional energy weapons, though they developed the regenerative phaser (and had the compression rifle before which did the same thing, so technically the TR-116 had no reason to exist in the first place, but I guess the episode wouldn't have worked with another device as well ) so the TR-116 was completely obsolete (I'm only spelling it out because so many people want ballistic weapons for STO which is and has always been nonsense).
The modification was made by a criminal who stole the prototype, it was never meant to have that and was an illegal modification. And why does Starfleet not just adapt illegal, criminal techniques to serve their goals? Principles, integrity - things that in our present day don't mean a thing, we idolize pragmatic types who "do what has to be done" - fictional Starfleet doesn't, however. And I think this is good. And as we see they didn't have to and never had to, Starfleet, the way it is, prevailed through all wars it was ever involved in.
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Rather sounds like the Cardassian uniforms -- armoured jackets, seemingly-armoured boots, pants which look like stab-resistant cloth -- were a direct reaction to the kind of tactics which Bajoran resistance would have used on them...
I always liked Trip's comment that his uniform was rated as fire-proof, but he wasn't going to set himself alight to find out
I think the authors of Star Trek never thought too hard about topics like that. Characters wear plot armour anyway. A Redshirt couldn't be saved if he was sitting in a panzer klein and a murderous teenager was the villain of the story, and the best sniper in the world would miss the main protagonist.
If I were to think such things through, I'd say that Starfleet uniforms provide a lot more protection than they did in the shows. They should be bullet proof and even offer some protection against energy weapons.
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I can't help but think that Starfleet personnel probably go sans armour for the very reason real-world seamen do - it weighs you down and hurts your mobility. Yes, you can argue that in the 25th Century they have materials that get around this problem, but few that can resist energy weapons. Starfleet mostly functions in space, and PSGs provide better protection than those few materials and without the encumbrance. On a ship, mobility is more important than survivability - personnel need to reach their stations and if they are hit, assistance is in much closer range than in ground-based warfare.
I can't help but think that Starfleet personnel probably go sans armour for the very reason real-world seamen do - it weighs you down and hurts your mobility. Yes, you can argue that in the 25th Century they have materials that get around this problem, but few that can resist energy weapons. Starfleet mostly functions in space, and PSGs provide better protection than those few materials and without the encumbrance. On a ship, mobility is more important than survivability - personnel need to reach their stations and if they are hit, assistance is in much closer range than in ground-based warfare.
But that doesn't really explain their away teams, does it?
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LMAO brilliant love it. And it is a very good point that that far in the future they do not have advanced fuses or cutoff switches to stop this happening.
Although this might explain why the uniforms were supposed to be fireproof (a la Trip on ENT) although in TNG and Vog they seemed to get burned pretty quickly. So who knows...?
But that doesn't really explain their away teams, does it?
In the RN, shore parties were usually regular crewmen and went ashore without body armour, but their regular combat dress. If a combat away team was needed, it would be handed to whatever marines were onboard. Besides, most Starfleet Away Teams aren't knowingly going into a combat situation and, as I pointed out, most forms of protective armour would be a hindrance.
Starfleet made a gun (admittedly with some modifications) that can SHOOT THROUGH WALLS!
Then didn't use said gun at ALL during a war they were losing, or at best, at a stalemate in for a majority of the time they were fighting.
Point being, they might be smart, but they aren't necessarily brimming with common sense there in Starfleet.
The Starfleet made TR-116 has no external transporter. It is install by a criminal with no consideration on its' power usage, reliability, complexity or anything.
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The Starfleet made TR-116 has no external transporter. It is install by a criminal with no consideration on its' power usage, reliability, complexity or anything.
Yes that is true.
BUT this is still during a war. A war that, even with how far they'd come, the three allies were kind of stuck in a STALEMALE on.
War is a massive driving force for technology growth. And the TR-116 isn't THAT old of a gun as far as the episode went. While yes, we don't know all the details about it, it could've been held together by space-tape as far as we know. I would imagine someone, might end up hearing about this, or having it suggested for them to look at and they wonder, 'Hmm, this gun might have some merit to it still'.
Even if they dropped EVERYTHING about the TR-116, and made a whole new weapon, no matter what that weapon might be, the TR-116 still would've acted as an inspiration for some kind of new technology to help in the war effort.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Well... I don't know about in STO, but in the Elite Force games, the Hazard Suit had Ablative Armor Patches integrated into the suit as well as a personal shield.
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Whatever material it is, I'd say its greatest use is indeed with melee weapons and shrapnel/flak/IED's. While I personally think it may cut down the intensity of an energy beam hit, I think of it as being quite limited in that capacity.
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Yeah, electric or heat weapons would be lethal against metallic armor.
Shrapnel and flak, too; just like a longbow against a medieval knight. Melee weapons, there it's a great defense.
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Scroll down to the Combat Jacket variant. It's assumed that this type of personal armor was issued to all Starfleet personnel expecting prolonged ground engagement.
The link isn't working when I click on it.
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Found a link for info on the Hazard Suit. I can make a pretty decent replica using parts available in game too.
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#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Or lift the ban on circuit breakers.
Then didn't use said gun at ALL during a war they were losing, or at best, at a stalemate in for a majority of the time they were fighting.
Point being, they might be smart, but they aren't necessarily brimming with common sense there in Starfleet.
Starfleet didn't. The TR-116 was a prototype of a very primitive type of firearm when dampening fields were interfering with conventional energy weapons, though they developed the regenerative phaser (and had the compression rifle before which did the same thing, so technically the TR-116 had no reason to exist in the first place, but I guess the episode wouldn't have worked with another device as well
The modification was made by a criminal who stole the prototype, it was never meant to have that and was an illegal modification. And why does Starfleet not just adapt illegal, criminal techniques to serve their goals? Principles, integrity - things that in our present day don't mean a thing, we idolize pragmatic types who "do what has to be done" - fictional Starfleet doesn't, however. And I think this is good. And as we see they didn't have to and never had to, Starfleet, the way it is, prevailed through all wars it was ever involved in.
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I always liked Trip's comment that his uniform was rated as fire-proof, but he wasn't going to set himself alight to find out
If I were to think such things through, I'd say that Starfleet uniforms provide a lot more protection than they did in the shows. They should be bullet proof and even offer some protection against energy weapons.
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But that doesn't really explain their away teams, does it?
Here it is again.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Starfleet_uniform_(late_2360s-early_2370s)
The section about Combat Jackets.
LMAO brilliant love it. And it is a very good point that that far in the future they do not have advanced fuses or cutoff switches to stop this happening.
Although this might explain why the uniforms were supposed to be fireproof (a la Trip on ENT) although in TNG and Vog they seemed to get burned pretty quickly. So who knows...?
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In the RN, shore parties were usually regular crewmen and went ashore without body armour, but their regular combat dress. If a combat away team was needed, it would be handed to whatever marines were onboard. Besides, most Starfleet Away Teams aren't knowingly going into a combat situation and, as I pointed out, most forms of protective armour would be a hindrance.
Trials of Blood and Fire
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In Cold Blood
The Starfleet made TR-116 has no external transporter. It is install by a criminal with no consideration on its' power usage, reliability, complexity or anything.
Hast thou not felt ashamed of thy words and deeds
Hast thou not lacked vigor
Hast thou exerted all possible efforts
Hast thou not become slothful
Yes that is true.
BUT this is still during a war. A war that, even with how far they'd come, the three allies were kind of stuck in a STALEMALE on.
War is a massive driving force for technology growth. And the TR-116 isn't THAT old of a gun as far as the episode went. While yes, we don't know all the details about it, it could've been held together by space-tape as far as we know. I would imagine someone, might end up hearing about this, or having it suggested for them to look at and they wonder, 'Hmm, this gun might have some merit to it still'.
Even if they dropped EVERYTHING about the TR-116, and made a whole new weapon, no matter what that weapon might be, the TR-116 still would've acted as an inspiration for some kind of new technology to help in the war effort.
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