The Iconians have made their presence known! After the incident at Qo'noS, our Intelligence teams are working around the clock to uncover what ever they can about the Iconians as well as their servitor races.
I still find the similarity to new Romulus animal species interesting, that the Iconian we saw and the Herald mage share with them in regards to their eyes. I think the Iconains seeded New Romulus in the past.
I still find the similarity to new Romulus animal species interesting, that the Iconian we saw and the Herald mage share with them in regards to their eyes. I think the Iconains seeded New Romulus in the past.
Or possibly colonized it and what we're looking at on New Romulus are the descendants of Iconian livestock and pets gone feral. It'd be like a long abandoned Human colony having packs of feral dogs and herds of free roaming wild cattle.
Maybe epohs were a species Iconians kept as pets, like cats or rabbits, or a pest or vermin species like rats or rabbits.
They certainly are a distinctive looking bunch. I want to steal his scepter and smack 'em with it.
Or possibly colonized it and what we're looking at on New Romulus are the descendants of Iconian livestock and pets gone feral. It'd be like a long abandoned Human colony having packs of feral dogs and herds of free roaming wild cattle.
Maybe epohs were a species Iconians kept as pets, like cats or rabbits, or a pest or vermin species like rats or rabbits.
Well yes, that's kind of what I mean, New Romulus could have a much greater Iconian heritage than most may realize when looking at it's Fauna.
Though as for the first Herald in the report, well that thing,,, only one word fits it, Toaster! Doesn't look organic at all! :P
i suspect these heralds are actually less evolved iconians themselves, something like a warrior caste and they were instead given the title of "herald", the 6 eyes, the facial construction and the powers they have, way beyond a coincidence.
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Well, wonder if we might get some iconian like gear? Might be interesting. Also I hope they have future plans after them. Would be a shame if it is the endgame.
i suspect these heralds are actually less evolved iconians themselves, something like a warrior caste and they were instead given the title of "herald", the 6 eyes, the facial construction and the powers they have, way beyond a coincidence.
So like the Iconian version of uplifted chimpanzees or monkeys or something? Now there's an idea.
Wouldn't the Voth have records about what happened? At any rate, this should be good.
My thoughts exactly. The Voth from recorded history (Star Trek Lore) are descendants of the dinosaurs who roamed 65 million years ago, became space faring to survive the calamity that happened to most species on the planet as we know from the Chicxulub crater. In that case, they are the oldest sentient beings, perhaps even older than the Dominion itself and the Preserver race that spawned off many of the species in the galaxy.
So like the Iconian version of uplifted chimpanzees or monkeys or something? Now there's an idea.
Think of the difference between the Human Neanderthals, and Human Sapiens. Very closely related. Although I don't think the Herald are related to the Iconians.
The only thing greeting the Iconians once they arrive is an Energy Beam from one of my many Weapon Emitter Arrays equipped on my many ships. I say let them come, we'll help them burn! :cool:
In other news, as posted above, you'd think the Voth (and the Borg come to think of it) would have more knowledge of the Iconian than we ever would. The Voth have been a space species for millennia, and even if they remained somewhat isolated, they'd still have come across the odd relic in their time.
I'm more interested in what the Undine and Tholian are going to play in this upcoming war. The Undine have been manipulated and they now know this; they don't like people TRIBBLE with them, nor do they welcome intrusion into their space. I also believe that there is more to the Tholian involvement on Mol'rhian than simple exploration; I wouldn't have been surprised if they've been aware of the Iconian threat and are gearing up to defend themselves from it too - maybe even they will come to our aid in time?
Nitpicking is a time-honored tradition of science fiction. Asking your readers not to worry about the "little things" is like asking a dog not to sniff at people's crotches. If there's something that appears to violate natural laws, then you can expect someone's going to point it out. That's just the way things are.
I really hope that we will be able to get iconian technology somehow. With all of the shadows and stuff that they have would make your character be sick. I sincerely hope criptic keeps on making new iconic things like the ships they made
more closer relation, like a 100% match and a blood relative, but less advanced or evolved. held back on purpose.
The Iconian were saw on Qo'nos was tall, svelte, and looked to be as much energy as matter, and some of Sela's comments imply that their biology is heavily energy based with stuff like chronitons in their brains. Heralds look like they're just flesh and blood, so if there's a relation it may be more distant.
That or whatever the Iconians are is an uplifted or ascended form of Herald.
My thoughts exactly. The Voth from recorded history (Star Trek Lore) are descendants of the dinosaurs who roamed 65 million years ago, became space faring to survive the calamity that happened to most species on the planet as we know from the Chicxulub crater. In that case, they are the oldest sentient beings, perhaps even older than the Dominion itself and the Preserver race that spawned off many of the species in the galaxy.
I would say the Preservers are older. The fact that the Voth evolved into a humanoid form is most likely the result of Preserver manipulation. The Voth claim to be the first evolved species and they might be partially correct, if they were the first species to take humanoid form and advance after the Preservers seeded primordial Earth with their DNA codes.
I would say the Preservers are older. The fact that the Voth evolved into a humanoid form is most likely the result of Preserver manipulation. The Voth claim to be the first evolved species and they might be partially correct, if they were the first species to take humanoid form and advance after the Preservers seeded primordial Earth with their DNA codes.
This of course is all predicated on simple detail: if the "Preservers" are telling the truth.
Evidence is far more heavily towards them being the biggest delusional con artists in history.
I would say the Preservers are older. The fact that the Voth evolved into a humanoid form is most likely the result of Preserver manipulation. The Voth claim to be the first evolved species and they might be partially correct, if they were the first species to take humanoid form and advance after the Preservers seeded primordial Earth with their DNA codes.
I would think otherwise. The Preservers were mammals, the Voth are reptiles. I would therefore conclude that the Preservers came after the Voth, and seeded other mammalian species.
Don't ask me to explain the Xindi though, that ones a little bit of a clusterfu*k.
My thoughts exactly. The Voth from recorded history (Star Trek Lore) are descendants of the dinosaurs who roamed 65 million years ago, became space faring to survive the calamity that happened to most species on the planet as we know from the Chicxulub crater. In that case, they are the oldest sentient beings, perhaps even older than the Dominion itself and the Preserver race that spawned off many of the species in the galaxy.
the preserver race was around billions of years before the voth even got into space and they were the ones who created the life in the current galaxy, including the iconians one would assume.
the dominion was created possibly 8,309 years before the events on sto, however the race of founders may have been around far longer then this in their liquid state, remember time means nothing to a changling and they could be ancient beings compared to odo. by the time they started recording history of events with their genetically engineered lifeforms, but who knows how long they may have been around, alone on their own planet.
you would need to find something to prove one way or the other if the voth are older or not.
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I would think otherwise. The Preservers were mammals, the Voth are reptiles. I would therefore conclude that the Preservers came after the Voth, and seeded other mammalian species.
Don't ask me to explain the Xindi though, that ones a little bit of a clusterfu*k.
Dinosaurs came first on Earth but that in no way confirms that it was like that in the rest of the universe.
My thoughts exactly. The Voth from recorded history (Star Trek Lore) are descendants of the dinosaurs who roamed 65 million years ago, became space faring to survive the calamity that happened to most species on the planet as we know from the Chicxulub crater. In that case, they are the oldest sentient beings, perhaps even older than the Dominion itself and the Preserver race that spawned off many of the species in the galaxy.
60 million years is a long time. Civilizations rise and fall ... rise and fall ... and some develop faster than others.
Look at the Vulcans for example. Now, I don't know the details but I remember seeing someone somewhere mentioning Romulans left Vulcan some 2000 years ago. 2000 years is also a very long time, but think how much they developed during that period. I don't think they advanced much, look at what state they are during ST:ENT ... expansion wise especially, look at what Romulans did with their domain during the same period (btw, we're discussing fictional future history here, it's hardly accurate but whatever) ...
The Voth could've developed a lot, and then something could've happened ... set back after set back, infighting maybe? For all we know the Voth we have here are evolutionary ******* (since when is the synonym for a mentally challenged person offensive?) that managed to survive due to some factor (lack of curiosity, secretive nature or close mindedness maybe) ... There could've been periods of religious rule, or inquisitions, purging past knowledge (burning books you know) that would account for any lack of knowledge on Iconians.
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Or possibly colonized it and what we're looking at on New Romulus are the descendants of Iconian livestock and pets gone feral. It'd be like a long abandoned Human colony having packs of feral dogs and herds of free roaming wild cattle.
Maybe epohs were a species Iconians kept as pets, like cats or rabbits, or a pest or vermin species like rats or rabbits.
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Well yes, that's kind of what I mean, New Romulus could have a much greater Iconian heritage than most may realize when looking at it's Fauna.
Though as for the first Herald in the report, well that thing,,, only one word fits it, Toaster! Doesn't look organic at all! :P
Looks more like an energy-based thing held together by some sort of matrix or frame.
Still, first thought on the second Herald shown is this: "You know, Herald, one of these days I'm going to have a stick of my own."
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So like the Iconian version of uplifted chimpanzees or monkeys or something? Now there's an idea.
more closer relation, like a 100% match and a blood relative, but less advanced or evolved. held back on purpose.
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My thoughts exactly. The Voth from recorded history (Star Trek Lore) are descendants of the dinosaurs who roamed 65 million years ago, became space faring to survive the calamity that happened to most species on the planet as we know from the Chicxulub crater. In that case, they are the oldest sentient beings, perhaps even older than the Dominion itself and the Preserver race that spawned off many of the species in the galaxy.
Think of the difference between the Human Neanderthals, and Human Sapiens. Very closely related. Although I don't think the Herald are related to the Iconians.
In other news, as posted above, you'd think the Voth (and the Borg come to think of it) would have more knowledge of the Iconian than we ever would. The Voth have been a space species for millennia, and even if they remained somewhat isolated, they'd still have come across the odd relic in their time.
I'm more interested in what the Undine and Tholian are going to play in this upcoming war. The Undine have been manipulated and they now know this; they don't like people TRIBBLE with them, nor do they welcome intrusion into their space. I also believe that there is more to the Tholian involvement on Mol'rhian than simple exploration; I wouldn't have been surprised if they've been aware of the Iconian threat and are gearing up to defend themselves from it too - maybe even they will come to our aid in time?
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To me, it looked like the G1 Shockwave from Transformers. Without the ridiculously large weapon on the arm.
The Iconian were saw on Qo'nos was tall, svelte, and looked to be as much energy as matter, and some of Sela's comments imply that their biology is heavily energy based with stuff like chronitons in their brains. Heralds look like they're just flesh and blood, so if there's a relation it may be more distant.
That or whatever the Iconians are is an uplifted or ascended form of Herald.
I would say the Preservers are older. The fact that the Voth evolved into a humanoid form is most likely the result of Preserver manipulation. The Voth claim to be the first evolved species and they might be partially correct, if they were the first species to take humanoid form and advance after the Preservers seeded primordial Earth with their DNA codes.
This of course is all predicated on simple detail: if the "Preservers" are telling the truth.
Evidence is far more heavily towards them being the biggest delusional con artists in history.
Don't ask me to explain the Xindi though, that ones a little bit of a clusterfu*k.
the preserver race was around billions of years before the voth even got into space and they were the ones who created the life in the current galaxy, including the iconians one would assume.
the dominion was created possibly 8,309 years before the events on sto, however the race of founders may have been around far longer then this in their liquid state, remember time means nothing to a changling and they could be ancient beings compared to odo. by the time they started recording history of events with their genetically engineered lifeforms, but who knows how long they may have been around, alone on their own planet.
you would need to find something to prove one way or the other if the voth are older or not.
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Dinosaurs came first on Earth but that in no way confirms that it was like that in the rest of the universe.
I believe it was the IRW Haakona, although I may be wrong.
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You're correct. Taris commanded the I.R.W. Haakona.
60 million years is a long time. Civilizations rise and fall ... rise and fall ... and some develop faster than others.
Look at the Vulcans for example. Now, I don't know the details but I remember seeing someone somewhere mentioning Romulans left Vulcan some 2000 years ago. 2000 years is also a very long time, but think how much they developed during that period. I don't think they advanced much, look at what state they are during ST:ENT ... expansion wise especially, look at what Romulans did with their domain during the same period (btw, we're discussing fictional future history here, it's hardly accurate but whatever) ...
The Voth could've developed a lot, and then something could've happened ... set back after set back, infighting maybe? For all we know the Voth we have here are evolutionary ******* (since when is the synonym for a mentally challenged person offensive?) that managed to survive due to some factor (lack of curiosity, secretive nature or close mindedness maybe) ... There could've been periods of religious rule, or inquisitions, purging past knowledge (burning books you know) that would account for any lack of knowledge on Iconians.