Because the Flotilla is the main Romulan hub, right?
as you cant access new rom until you reach level 50 you would be right out of luck if they put the romulan NCP there and you rolled a romulan character. LOL...
I cant understand why players complain they cant afford to loose the time on their current characters.
you wont loose any ground you currently have made by giving them a rest and concentrating on a delta.
if you cant afford to take some time out from you currents I feel genuinely sad for you, personally I have no problem with this , my current characters have nothing to loose and everything to gain and there is nothing stopping me nipping in to them and setting up some doff missions when I have time.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
you people really are nothing but a bunch of money hogs sad thing is that the other gaming companies are most likely dong better and one of them is Square Enix is doing better then you guys come on your a mmo type of game oh im sorry you guys i will walk and wast my time els were.
you people really are nothing but a bunch of money hogs sad thing is that the other gaming companies are most likely dong better and one of them is Square Enix is doing better then you guys come on your a mmo type of game oh im sorry you guys i will walk and wast my time els were.
Yes. Square. squandering its ip since 2000, and releasing a game so broken they had to remove it from circulation, beg forgiveness and spend boatloads of money to make it .. .a copy of all other games.
As Delta Recruits complete the goals presented to them in the Recruit UI, they are earning rewards. Many of these rewards are account-bound, so if you’d like to send them all to other characters, that’s completely fine, and in fact an intended possible use of those rewards. In addition, Delta Recruits will also unlock rewards that can be claimed by other characters on your account.
Yet another rehashing of the same line, and it still doesn't say if there are any rewards that are character-bound and exclusive to the Delta Recruit character. :mad:
Is a Delta Recruit going to have a permanent advantage over previously-created toons or not? It's a simple question that's been repeatedly asked since the last two blogs on the subject. Is it that hard to just say it?
Yet another rehashing of the same line, and it still doesn't say if there are any rewards that are character-bound and exclusive to the Delta Recruit character. :mad:
Is a Delta Recruit going to have a permanent advantage over previously-created toons or not? It's a simple question that's been repeatedly asked since the last two blogs on the subject. Is it that hard to just say it?
I'm guessing the lack of them answering what is perhaps the single most important question being asked means that Recruits are the new mains.
They mostly just put not BS in this last blog that told us almost nothing new. "Talk to a NPC in the starting area of your faction." That is what the entire blog boils down to. The rest is just garbage filling out the blog to make it look like it is substantial. I understand Cryptic can't communicate or do PR to save its life but it could at least give some real information. From the utter lack of, well, anything, I'm guessing the changes that are coming will either set the forums on fire like the Marks to Dil conversion and they are just trying to delay that for as long as physically possible.
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Introducing the Temporal aspect now, huh? Why not just have an NPC come back in time, tell us what to do (and where it is that the Iconian are hiding) and be done with it. Also, release the recruitment information already. I'm tired of news that it's coming, with no actual information other than it's coming; I had already figured that much out.
I (truly) hope you guys know what you're doing here, I see a great potential to backfire. I for one have no intention of starting up another character just for a few toys. I'm still working on leveling existing characters.
Edit: The only way I'm starting a new character is if he is a true Cardassian (costumes and all) for any faction of my choice. Otherwise, forget it.
i sympathize. I also feel like your just trying to extract as much money as you can before the game shuts down, why ELSE would you raffle off ("and i say raffle its more like gambling") a NEW jem hedar bug ship ( strike ship, wich makes anyone whos shelled out the butt load of money to acquire the old version , really Pissed off) AND announce the Iconians if your not planning on getting rid of the game within the next 1-2 years. its like your just trying to make as much money as you can and cash out before it all hits the fan. WHY ELSE WOULD YOU ANNOUNCE THE END GAME ADVERSARY? hell W.O.W has been around allot longer than S.T.O and they NEVER put in the main bad guys in the game just for the fact that if they did it would mean the END of wow. for example they keep adding expansion after expansion to put the story more in depth and slowly.... EVER so slowly shed light on the main Adversary. BUT YOU ... no you want to go ahead and announce the Iconioans.... it just signals the END OF STO FOREVER! and all you care about is making as much money as possible before it all ****s down. hell id be happy VERY happy if the game went back to a payed per month subscription just to keep the game going. id love to play this game for another 10+ years but at the rate your money grubbing masters at perfect world keep pulling the stings i bet they're gonna shut you down cuz you aren't making them enough money, so now your scrambling to make an ENDGAME so give us long time fans closure to keep us "satisfied" and not protest out of our outrage at the constant spending in this game. i dont even have a lifetime sub and i guarantee iv'e sung in over 1000$ just in lock boxes and Cstore ships alone...FOR ALL 3 FACTIONS! I KNOW FOR A FACT I BOUGHT THE ROMULAN 100$+ "legacy" PACK AND THE DELTA ALLIANCE PACK!!! AND NOW RECENTLY I WAS STUPID ENOUGH TO GET THE COMMAND SHIP PACK "all 3 factions"..... AND EVEN MORE STUPID ENOUGH TO SINK IN 170$ IN YOUR F'd UP R&D PACK PROMOTION JUST FOR A CHANCE... a "CHANCE" at this new fan-fangled ship you thrown together at the last minute just to make a quick BUCK! "jem strike ship" WHICH BY THE WAY I DIDN'T EVEN GET!!!!!! sso you can see my fury, my rage at this!!!! to know that STO might very well not even exist anymore! i've heard the rumors in various in game chats and didn't want to believe it. ... refused to listen to people when they said "this game is dying" and i continued to fork over most of my HARD EARNED PAY CHECK Money, in the hopes that it will keep this game i so love afloat, but alas.... in every single MMO ive ever been apart of,..... when ever you single the final encounter..... the FINALE bad guy the FINALE Obstacle .... it signals the end of that game .. the MMO ... and ever single penny you spent in TRIBBLE ... ..... willl count for nothing...while those who run it laugh their asses off at the killing they made RIPPING PEOPLE OFF making them pay for **** that why wouldn't even get to enjoy for barely a moment!!!!
:mad: I feel like your just trying to extract as much money as you can before the game shuts down, why ELSE would you raffle off ("and i say raffle its more like gambling") a NEW jem hedar bug ship ( strike ship, wich makes anyone whos shelled out the butt load of money to acquire the old version , really Pissed off) AND announce the Iconians if your not planning on getting rid of the game within the next 1-2 years. its like your just trying to make as much money as you can and cash out before it all hits the fan. WHY ELSE WOULD YOU ANNOUNCE THE END GAME ADVERSARY? hell W.O.W has been around allot longer than S.T.O and they NEVER put in the main bad guys in the game just for the fact that if they did it would mean the END of wow. for example they keep adding expansion after expansion to put the story more in depth and slowly.... EVER so slowly shed light on the main Adversary. BUT YOU ... no you want to go ahead and announce the Iconioans.... it just signals the END OF STO FOREVER! and all you care about is making as much money as possible before it all ****s down. hell id be happy VERY happy if the game went back to a payed per month subscription just to keep the game going. id love to play this game for another 10+ years but at the rate your money grubbing masters at perfect world keep pulling the stings i bet they're gonna shut you down cuz you aren't making them enough money, so now your scrambling to make an ENDGAME so give us long time fans closure to keep us "satisfied" and not protest out of our outrage at the constant spending in this game. i dont even have a lifetime sub and i guarantee iv'e sung in over 1000$ just in lock boxes and Cstore ships alone...FOR ALL 3 FACTIONS! I KNOW FOR A FACT I BOUGHT THE ROMULAN 100$+ "legacy" PACK AND THE DELTA ALLIANCE PACK!!! AND NOW RECENTLY I WAS STUPID ENOUGH TO GET THE COMMAND SHIP PACK "all 3 factions"..... AND EVEN MORE STUPID ENOUGH TO SINK IN 170$ IN YOUR F'd UP R&D PACK PROMOTION JUST FOR A CHANCE... a "CHANCE" at this new fan-fangled ship you thrown together at the last minute just to make a quick BUCK! "jem strike ship" WHICH BY THE WAY I DIDN'T EVEN GET!!!!!! sso you can see my fury, my rage at this!!!! to know that STO might very well not even exist anymore! i've heard the rumors in various in game chats and didn't want to believe it. ... refused to listen to people when they said "this game is dying" and i continued to fork over most of my HARD EARNED PAY CHECK Money, in the hopes that it will keep this game i so love afloat, but alas.... in every single MMO ive ever been apart of,..... when ever you single the final encounter..... the FINALE bad guy the FINALE Obstacle .... it signals the end of that game .. the MMO ... and ever single penny you spent in TRIBBLE ... ..... willl count for nothing...while those who run it laugh their asses off at the killing they made RIPPING PEOPLE OFF making them pay for **** that why wouldn't even get to enjoy for barely a moment!!!!
Yet another rehashing of the same line, and it still doesn't say if there are any rewards that are character-bound and exclusive to the Delta Recruit character. :mad:
Is a Delta Recruit going to have a permanent advantage over previously-created toons or not? It's a simple question that's been repeatedly asked since the last two blogs on the subject. Is it that hard to just say it?
Why does it matter? So what if a Delta Recruit can get a shiny Mk 12 beam or cannon or torpedo? What difference does it make? It's not as though any potential boost is going to be significant in any way shape or form. At worst your existing characters will top out at 99.9% effective. Oh woe is them...
I'm guessing the lack of them answering what is perhaps the single most important question being asked means that Recruits are the new mains.
Maybe, maybe not. But what's even worse, if they don't tell us what's what, we'll have to create our Recruits with the aim of becoming the new mains if necessary. Then it will be too late to create a just-for-fun alt if it turns out after the event that the Recruits are nothing special after all.
as you cant access new rom until you reach level 50 you would be right out of luck if they put the romulan NCP there and you rolled a romulan character. LOL...
I cant understand why players complain they cant afford to loose the time on their current characters.
you wont loose any ground you currently have made by giving them a rest and concentrating on a delta.
if you cant afford to take some time out from you currents I feel genuinely sad for you, personally I have no problem with this , my current characters have nothing to loose and everything to gain and there is nothing stopping me nipping in to them and setting up some doff missions when I have time.
people have lots of non transferable Expensive Lobi items , Expensive lock box ships, perks like red matter capacitors who bought the original box game and many other things that are very expensive and are character bound
not even mentioning rep gear bought Reps leveled Fleet gear bought Spec points leveled
some people have thousands of bucks $$$ invested in their characters
And now new characters will be better just because there new
Well your characters must really suck if it wont bother you to lose them as characters because this is the start of that
The people who have spent the most the lock box openers will be hit the hardest I figure, I just hope they do it over a long period of time so the people who don't come to the forums find out
That will be bad when the masses find out
sony online entertainment did this too with star wars Galaxys but they did it in a expansion and it cause the game to die horribly I might add
At least I see cryptic doing the same thing but on the down/Lo slowly
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I'm frankly wondering more about the female Romulan reflection, when the Omega armor rear profile looks like that of a male base.
If it was some romance novel cover (the soldier and thoughts of his love), I'd get it, but it just seems a little off otherwise.
Also, shouldn't it technically be a MACO soldier? They're the space marine equivalent for the Feds. Though admittedly, the Omega Force armor looks more future marine-worthy armor set.
Thinking on it now, it would be a perfect time to add the other two MACO variants (Operational and Tactical) and the Omega Force (Reaper and Quietus) and KDF equivalents as unlocks, and the ability to color the MACO sets like that of the MACO Photonic Bridge Officer.
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Maybe the phrasing was just ambiguous, but that looks to me like there are 3 categories of Delta Recruit rewards:
1) Single-character rewards given to the Recruit
2) Single-character, account-bound rewards that the Recruit can transfer to other toons (like a Main)
3) Account-wide rewards that individual toons have to visit the temporal agents to redeem
That's a lot better than what I was expecting after the first blog post, but unless categories one and two go away (or I'm mistaken about their existence in the first place) it still kinda smells like they're trying to "obsolete" existing toons and/or failing at the "You shouldnt feel like you're missing out because you're playing a Delta Recruit" objective.
My other fear is that we will see a bait-and-switch in which if we delete the Delta Recruit, we lose all of its rewards on our other toons. After all, that would potentially force us (assuming people do not intend to cull toons as I intend to do, to make sure MY metrics either do not grow, or actually shrink) to keep on an alt we would not otherwise and make the alting metrics look artificially better than they would be otherwise.
I would still like to HOPE this is NOT the case, since we have a new EP who was not in place when we were lied to about the Advanced STF's, but trust has been damaged to the point where I will do nothing unless I see hard stats and proof, AND I know from other players that it is actually *working.*
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I saw a long and largely incoherent rant above about the arrival of the Iconians meankng the end of STO. I'm not going to quote it because I don't want to inflict scrolling through it a second time on anyone, and I'm not going to go point-by-point because I don't understand most of the points on account of the aforementioned incoherence, but I do want to hit the overall idea.
We've been working on the Iconian story for five years, and apart from a few momentary diversions (the Breen and Devidian series being the most notable), everything in the game has focused on it. But the time comes to pay off your buildup, and five years is long enough.
It is time for the Iconians. It is time to pay off the hints and secrets and the big scenes with Sela's kinapping and the deaths of the High Council.
And that doesn't mean the end of the game. It means the end of the Iconian story, but the game can press on afterward and tell a new story. We can see the galaxy rebuild after the Iconian war, new dangers rise from the destruction the Iconians wrought and the Alliance caused trying to hold them back.
The poster mentioned that WoW never reveals its main villains. Honestly, that makes me glad I don't play WoW. A story that's never paid off is a bad story.
Please provide one example of a story with a 10 or 11 season buildup with one big bad that continued with good energy after the defeat of that big bad.
At one point I cited Buffy as a great example of what to do: a seasonal big bad that changes. However after the First was vanquished the show was over.
How many times can you blow up the deathstar? The answer should have been once. Take out the 2nd deathstar and the ewoks and star wars would have been a perfect trilogy, with the 3rd movie focused on Luke's personal battles.
After the story climax any further development is just hmmm how to put it... a private date.
I hope there is some way out of it but it looks to me like the writers have written themselves into a corner. Or else it is a planned finale, which hopefully will at least take 3 seasons to complete.
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Please provide one example of a story with a 10 or 11 season buildup with one big bad that continued with good energy after the defeat of that big bad.
At one point I cited Buffy as a great example of what to do: a seasonal big bad that changes. However after the First was vanquished the show was over.
How many times can you blow up the deathstar? The answer should have been once. Take out the 2nd deathstar and the ewoks and star wars would have been a perfect trilogy, with the 3rd movie focused on Luke's personal battles.
After the story climax any further development is just hmmm how to put it... a private date.
I hope there is some way out of it but it looks to me like the writers have written themselves into a corner. Or else it is a planned finale, which hopefully will at least take 3 seasons to complete.
Why is this seen as the end? It could be the start of the Iconian War. A war that could last over several seasons. In a recent podcast it was mentioned that the Delta Recruit storyline will leading what they have planed for 2016 and season 11.
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Why is this seen as the end? It could be the start of the Iconian War. A war that could last over several seasons. In a recent podcast it was mentioned that the Delta Recruit storyline will leading what they have planed for 2016 and season 11.
Yeah, as I said, I'm hoping the war lasts a very long time - hopefully at least 3 seasons. I would expect season 11 this fall though.
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
..... AND EVEN MORE STUPID ENOUGH TO SINK IN 170$ IN YOUR F'd UP R&D PACK PROMOTION JUST FOR A CHANCE... a "CHANCE" at this new fan-fangled ship you thrown together at the last minute just to make a quick BUCK! "jem strike ship" WHICH BY THE WAY I DIDN'T EVEN GET!!!!!!
im sorry but your whole rant that boils down to this just makes you sound like a poor looser, the fact that you posted it twice even more so.
easy answer don't gamble on lock box`s or R&D promotions.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Yeah, as I said, I'm hoping the war lasts a very long time - hopefully at least 3 seasons. I would expect season 11 this fall though.
There was a podcast that Al Geko did recently that I kinda of transcribed. He mentioned that there will be more featured episodes and that season 11 will be in 2016 for the big 50th anniversary.
Your pain runs deep.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
people have lots of non transferable Expensive Lobi items , Expensive lock box ships, perks like red matter capacitors who bought the original box game and many other things that are very expensive and are character bound
not even mentioning rep gear bought Reps leveled Fleet gear bought Spec points leveled
some people have thousands of bucks $$$ invested in their characters
And now new characters will be better just because there new
Well your characters must really suck if it wont bother you to lose them as characters because this is the start of that
The people who have spent the most the lock box openers will be hit the hardest I figure, I just hope they do it over a long period of time so the people who don't come to the forums find out
That will be bad when the masses find out
sony online entertainment did this too with star wars Galaxys but they did it in a expansion and it cause the game to die horribly I might add
At least I see cryptic doing the same thing but on the down/Lo slowly
where did I put that I will be happy to loose my current characters, why should a delta be any better then or even as good as any of your current characters.
your reading an awful lot into this event not to mention my post that just isn't there.
I for one will only be playing the delta for what my other characters can get out of it after which he will be only used for farming dil &EC and I an sure that is the case for many other players.
I see no reason for your doom and gloom attitude, if the delta recruit was to replace existing characters why would they ensure existing characters benefit from this event as much as deltas.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Actually, you are wrong. Most of the calls for help were not for starting a new alt. It was that we wanted help with our existing alts. The Delta Recruit only benefits those wanting to start NEW alts, or New players. Those that have alts already are screwed.
And this new toon will create account-wide benefits. One toon, many applications. Sounds like alt-friendly to me.
Also, I never said that they were not doing bug fixes, or were not working on season 10. Since you only focused on only part of what I said, I will quote the rest of what I quoted earlier.
"When we need so much xp just to grind out levels, are we going to get 100% of the xp earned on the Delta Recruit given to all of our characters? If not, then for most that already have characters, this is a waste of time.
We have had xp nerfs to drag the ridiculous grind from 50-60+ out longer, and now you want us to start all new characters, and grind the same content all over again.
...
Why not spend time improving the game play mechanics? Why not let our existing characters replay those missions, and get the rewards, instead of locking it behind re-grinding a new character?
I did address much of this, without direct-quoting your entire post.
As I noted, they're giving rewards for doing something specific. That's why our existing toons can't replay the missions for the benefits. These new Delta Recruit toons will bring account-wide benefits.
Also, we know that there are going to be XP boosts, across the server at some level. How much, we don't know quite yet.
And I disagree with 50-to-60 leveling being a "grind." It honestly does not take as long as many players complain it does. That said, it is designed to take several days of gameplay, because it's the first major cap increase STO has done. Having it be a few hours' speed-run would be silly. Maybe it's a matter of perspective, but I was just fine with the pacing of DR.
We've been working on the Iconian story for five years, and apart from a few momentary diversions (the Breen and Devidian series being the most notable), everything in the game has focused on it. But the time comes to pay off your buildup, and five years is long enough.
It is time for the Iconians. It is time to pay off the hints and secrets and the big scenes with Sela's kinapping and the deaths of the High Council.
And that doesn't mean the end of the game. It means the end of the Iconian story, but the game can press on afterward and tell a new story. We can see the galaxy rebuild after the Iconian war, new dangers rise from the destruction the Iconians wrought and the Alliance caused trying to hold them back.
I can't wait to see what's next.
Personally, I'd like to see New Romulus visited again and built up. With the Iconians / Tal Shiar / Sela no longer being priority #1, I'd like to see the Republic stand up a little taller and some of the infrastructure built up.
Also, we know that there are going to be XP boosts, across the server at some level. How much, we don't know quite yet.
it was revealed in a podcast that the bonuses will be tiered and will be week long. The Delta Recruits could unlock bonuses of .5% bonus XP, double XP and even Triple XP.
Your pain runs deep.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
And I disagree with 50-to-60 leveling being a "grind." It honestly does not take as long as many players complain it does. That said, it is designed to take several days of gameplay, because it's the first major cap increase STO has done. Having it be a few hours' speed-run would be silly. Maybe it's a matter of perspective, but I was just fine with the pacing of DR.
The DR is a grind because it did not provide enough content to play through level 50-60 with content if the alt was level 50 when starting DR content. Content only provided you with about half exp needed for those levels, and the rest had to be grinded through by other means. If you play through the game on a new alt it is no problem though since you get to level 50 a lot much earlier then DR content. :rolleyes:
Have to admit that it has not been a big problem for me since I Doff'ed my way through most level to level 60 on my alts. Advantage of having 13 alts I guess. :P
A test server is supposed to be used to properly test patches before patching anything....
Maybe, maybe not. But what's even worse, if they don't tell us what's what, we'll have to create our Recruits with the aim of becoming the new mains if necessary. Then it will be too late to create a just-for-fun alt if it turns out after the event that the Recruits are nothing special after all.
seriously? you will do that? you will start all over again with a new main?
there isn't a snowballs chance I will. if it turns out that delta toons are intended as t6 ubertoons, I am gone.
Maybe, maybe not. But what's even worse, if they don't tell us what's what, we'll have to create our Recruits with the aim of becoming the new mains if necessary. Then it will be too late to create a just-for-fun alt if it turns out after the event that the Recruits are nothing special after all.
you should be playing this game just-for-fun. If you are not and only have an alt for that it may be time to back away from STO.
Your pain runs deep.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
seriously? you will do that? you will start all over again with a new main?
there isn't a snowballs chance I will. if it turns out that delta toons are intended as t6 ubertoons, I am gone.
if a delta turns out to be a t6 ubertoon as you fear there would be a lot of current players who don't take part and future players who join after the event is over and deltas cant be created that will be at a serious disadvantage.
this is why I just cant see this being the case, delta toons will have no benefits after the event is over that make them any more special then regular characters.
this is just an attempt by cryptic to get current players to create more toons to hopefully spend more money on and perhaps attract new players to the game who might also spend some money, nothing more nothing less.
anyone who thinks its more then this is seriously mistaken.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
if a delta turns out to be a t6 ubertoon as you fear there would be a lot of current players who don't take part and future players who join after the event is over and deltas cant be created that will be at a serious disadvantage.
this is why I just cant see this being the case, delta toons will have no benefits after the event is over that make them any more special then regular characters.
this is just an attempt by cryptic to get current players to create more toons to hopefully spend more money on and perhaps attract new players to the game who might also spend some money, nothing more nothing less.
anyone who thinks its more then this is seriously mistaken.
Th Delta toons will have bonuses after the event...but they won't be uber toons.
Your pain runs deep.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Th Delta toons will have bonuses after the event...but they won't be uber toons.
I see no mention of any benefits or bonuses the delta will have after the event is over other then benefits and bonuses collected while the event is active the vast majority of which and maybe even all of which (depending how you define a benefit or bonus) can be claimed by your current characters.
as it says in the blog > "Each of your characters can claim the account level rewards once from the Temporal agent. These rewards include Marks, Equipment, Consoles, R&D Materials, and other items."
these are all benefits my regular characters will enjoy receiving.
all other benefits (mainly levelling) the delta has will cease at the end of the event as I understand it.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
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as you cant access new rom until you reach level 50 you would be right out of luck if they put the romulan NCP there and you rolled a romulan character. LOL...
I cant understand why players complain they cant afford to loose the time on their current characters.
you wont loose any ground you currently have made by giving them a rest and concentrating on a delta.
if you cant afford to take some time out from you currents I feel genuinely sad for you, personally I have no problem with this , my current characters have nothing to loose and everything to gain and there is nothing stopping me nipping in to them and setting up some doff missions when I have time.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I give you thumbs up for delta recruitment, from what we read so far.
Good job. CU there.
Yes. Square. squandering its ip since 2000, and releasing a game so broken they had to remove it from circulation, beg forgiveness and spend boatloads of money to make it .. .a copy of all other games.
uh huh.
Is a Delta Recruit going to have a permanent advantage over previously-created toons or not? It's a simple question that's been repeatedly asked since the last two blogs on the subject. Is it that hard to just say it?
I'm guessing the lack of them answering what is perhaps the single most important question being asked means that Recruits are the new mains.
They mostly just put not BS in this last blog that told us almost nothing new. "Talk to a NPC in the starting area of your faction." That is what the entire blog boils down to. The rest is just garbage filling out the blog to make it look like it is substantial. I understand Cryptic can't communicate or do PR to save its life but it could at least give some real information. From the utter lack of, well, anything, I'm guessing the changes that are coming will either set the forums on fire like the Marks to Dil conversion and they are just trying to delay that for as long as physically possible.
i sympathize. I also feel like your just trying to extract as much money as you can before the game shuts down, why ELSE would you raffle off ("and i say raffle its more like gambling") a NEW jem hedar bug ship ( strike ship, wich makes anyone whos shelled out the butt load of money to acquire the old version , really Pissed off) AND announce the Iconians if your not planning on getting rid of the game within the next 1-2 years. its like your just trying to make as much money as you can and cash out before it all hits the fan. WHY ELSE WOULD YOU ANNOUNCE THE END GAME ADVERSARY? hell W.O.W has been around allot longer than S.T.O and they NEVER put in the main bad guys in the game just for the fact that if they did it would mean the END of wow. for example they keep adding expansion after expansion to put the story more in depth and slowly.... EVER so slowly shed light on the main Adversary. BUT YOU ... no you want to go ahead and announce the Iconioans.... it just signals the END OF STO FOREVER! and all you care about is making as much money as possible before it all ****s down. hell id be happy VERY happy if the game went back to a payed per month subscription just to keep the game going. id love to play this game for another 10+ years but at the rate your money grubbing masters at perfect world keep pulling the stings i bet they're gonna shut you down cuz you aren't making them enough money, so now your scrambling to make an ENDGAME so give us long time fans closure to keep us "satisfied" and not protest out of our outrage at the constant spending in this game. i dont even have a lifetime sub and i guarantee iv'e sung in over 1000$ just in lock boxes and Cstore ships alone...FOR ALL 3 FACTIONS! I KNOW FOR A FACT I BOUGHT THE ROMULAN 100$+ "legacy" PACK AND THE DELTA ALLIANCE PACK!!! AND NOW RECENTLY I WAS STUPID ENOUGH TO GET THE COMMAND SHIP PACK "all 3 factions"..... AND EVEN MORE STUPID ENOUGH TO SINK IN 170$ IN YOUR F'd UP R&D PACK PROMOTION JUST FOR A CHANCE... a "CHANCE" at this new fan-fangled ship you thrown together at the last minute just to make a quick BUCK! "jem strike ship" WHICH BY THE WAY I DIDN'T EVEN GET!!!!!! sso you can see my fury, my rage at this!!!! to know that STO might very well not even exist anymore! i've heard the rumors in various in game chats and didn't want to believe it. ... refused to listen to people when they said "this game is dying" and i continued to fork over most of my HARD EARNED PAY CHECK Money, in the hopes that it will keep this game i so love afloat, but alas.... in every single MMO ive ever been apart of,..... when ever you single the final encounter..... the FINALE bad guy the FINALE Obstacle .... it signals the end of that game .. the MMO ... and ever single penny you spent in TRIBBLE ... ..... willl count for nothing...while those who run it laugh their asses off at the killing they made RIPPING PEOPLE OFF making them pay for **** that why wouldn't even get to enjoy for barely a moment!!!!
Why does it matter? So what if a Delta Recruit can get a shiny Mk 12 beam or cannon or torpedo? What difference does it make? It's not as though any potential boost is going to be significant in any way shape or form. At worst your existing characters will top out at 99.9% effective. Oh woe is them...
people have lots of non transferable Expensive Lobi items , Expensive lock box ships, perks like red matter capacitors who bought the original box game and many other things that are very expensive and are character bound
not even mentioning rep gear bought Reps leveled Fleet gear bought Spec points leveled
some people have thousands of bucks $$$ invested in their characters
And now new characters will be better just because there new
Well your characters must really suck if it wont bother you to lose them as characters because this is the start of that
The people who have spent the most the lock box openers will be hit the hardest I figure, I just hope they do it over a long period of time so the people who don't come to the forums find out
That will be bad when the masses find out
sony online entertainment did this too with star wars Galaxys but they did it in a expansion and it cause the game to die horribly I might add
At least I see cryptic doing the same thing but on the down/Lo slowly
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My other fear is that we will see a bait-and-switch in which if we delete the Delta Recruit, we lose all of its rewards on our other toons. After all, that would potentially force us (assuming people do not intend to cull toons as I intend to do, to make sure MY metrics either do not grow, or actually shrink) to keep on an alt we would not otherwise and make the alting metrics look artificially better than they would be otherwise.
I would still like to HOPE this is NOT the case, since we have a new EP who was not in place when we were lied to about the Advanced STF's, but trust has been damaged to the point where I will do nothing unless I see hard stats and proof, AND I know from other players that it is actually *working.*
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Almost are looking forward to the grind now. :P
A test server is supposed to be used to properly test patches before patching anything....
We've been working on the Iconian story for five years, and apart from a few momentary diversions (the Breen and Devidian series being the most notable), everything in the game has focused on it. But the time comes to pay off your buildup, and five years is long enough.
It is time for the Iconians. It is time to pay off the hints and secrets and the big scenes with Sela's kinapping and the deaths of the High Council.
And that doesn't mean the end of the game. It means the end of the Iconian story, but the game can press on afterward and tell a new story. We can see the galaxy rebuild after the Iconian war, new dangers rise from the destruction the Iconians wrought and the Alliance caused trying to hold them back.
The poster mentioned that WoW never reveals its main villains. Honestly, that makes me glad I don't play WoW. A story that's never paid off is a bad story.
At one point I cited Buffy as a great example of what to do: a seasonal big bad that changes. However after the First was vanquished the show was over.
How many times can you blow up the deathstar? The answer should have been once. Take out the 2nd deathstar and the ewoks and star wars would have been a perfect trilogy, with the 3rd movie focused on Luke's personal battles.
After the story climax any further development is just hmmm how to put it... a private date.
I hope there is some way out of it but it looks to me like the writers have written themselves into a corner. Or else it is a planned finale, which hopefully will at least take 3 seasons to complete.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Why is this seen as the end? It could be the start of the Iconian War. A war that could last over several seasons. In a recent podcast it was mentioned that the Delta Recruit storyline will leading what they have planed for 2016 and season 11.
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Yeah, as I said, I'm hoping the war lasts a very long time - hopefully at least 3 seasons. I would expect season 11 this fall though.
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im sorry but your whole rant that boils down to this just makes you sound like a poor looser, the fact that you posted it twice even more so.
easy answer don't gamble on lock box`s or R&D promotions.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
There was a podcast that Al Geko did recently that I kinda of transcribed. He mentioned that there will be more featured episodes and that season 11 will be in 2016 for the big 50th anniversary.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
where did I put that I will be happy to loose my current characters, why should a delta be any better then or even as good as any of your current characters.
your reading an awful lot into this event not to mention my post that just isn't there.
I for one will only be playing the delta for what my other characters can get out of it after which he will be only used for farming dil &EC and I an sure that is the case for many other players.
I see no reason for your doom and gloom attitude, if the delta recruit was to replace existing characters why would they ensure existing characters benefit from this event as much as deltas.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
And this new toon will create account-wide benefits. One toon, many applications. Sounds like alt-friendly to me.
I did address much of this, without direct-quoting your entire post.
As I noted, they're giving rewards for doing something specific. That's why our existing toons can't replay the missions for the benefits. These new Delta Recruit toons will bring account-wide benefits.
Also, we know that there are going to be XP boosts, across the server at some level. How much, we don't know quite yet.
And I disagree with 50-to-60 leveling being a "grind." It honestly does not take as long as many players complain it does. That said, it is designed to take several days of gameplay, because it's the first major cap increase STO has done. Having it be a few hours' speed-run would be silly. Maybe it's a matter of perspective, but I was just fine with the pacing of DR.
I can't wait to see what's next.
Personally, I'd like to see New Romulus visited again and built up. With the Iconians / Tal Shiar / Sela no longer being priority #1, I'd like to see the Republic stand up a little taller and some of the infrastructure built up.
it was revealed in a podcast that the bonuses will be tiered and will be week long. The Delta Recruits could unlock bonuses of .5% bonus XP, double XP and even Triple XP.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
The DR is a grind because it did not provide enough content to play through level 50-60 with content if the alt was level 50 when starting DR content. Content only provided you with about half exp needed for those levels, and the rest had to be grinded through by other means. If you play through the game on a new alt it is no problem though since you get to level 50 a lot much earlier then DR content. :rolleyes:
Have to admit that it has not been a big problem for me since I Doff'ed my way through most level to level 60 on my alts. Advantage of having 13 alts I guess. :P
A test server is supposed to be used to properly test patches before patching anything....
there isn't a snowballs chance I will. if it turns out that delta toons are intended as t6 ubertoons, I am gone.
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you should be playing this game just-for-fun. If you are not and only have an alt for that it may be time to back away from STO.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
if a delta turns out to be a t6 ubertoon as you fear there would be a lot of current players who don't take part and future players who join after the event is over and deltas cant be created that will be at a serious disadvantage.
this is why I just cant see this being the case, delta toons will have no benefits after the event is over that make them any more special then regular characters.
this is just an attempt by cryptic to get current players to create more toons to hopefully spend more money on and perhaps attract new players to the game who might also spend some money, nothing more nothing less.
anyone who thinks its more then this is seriously mistaken.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Th Delta toons will have bonuses after the event...but they won't be uber toons.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
I see no mention of any benefits or bonuses the delta will have after the event is over other then benefits and bonuses collected while the event is active the vast majority of which and maybe even all of which (depending how you define a benefit or bonus) can be claimed by your current characters.
as it says in the blog > "Each of your characters can claim the account level rewards once from the Temporal agent. These rewards include Marks, Equipment, Consoles, R&D Materials, and other items."
these are all benefits my regular characters will enjoy receiving.
all other benefits (mainly levelling) the delta has will cease at the end of the event as I understand it.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.