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Making of the Jem'Hadar Strike Ship

pwlaughingtrendypwlaughingtrendy Member Posts: 2,966 Arc User
edited March 2015 in Galactic News Network [PC]
Captains! The new Jem'Hadar Strike Ship embodies both grace and power! Check out our latest blog showing off the art behind our latest ship!

You can see our new blog with all the art here!

~LaughingTrendy
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  • zulisvelzulisvel Member Posts: 518 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies . ~Bluegeek
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Whenever I see one of cryptics "making of..." Posts, I think that it is a "how to make it yourself" how to dev blog.
    Nope. Still can't make my own.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • tehjoneltehjonel Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    perfect opportunity for your artists to design an updated jem'hadar/dominion inspired 2410 bridge set. you guys have an opportunity that fans across the internet would jump at the chance to be even considered. to have their fan-art or trek-inspired extrapolated art make it into something "officially" trek.

    yeah, yeah, i know cryptic doesn't like making bridges. because "no one spends time in them" blah, blah.

    i mean, is this a star trek game or isn't it?

    i would've loved to see a new dominion-inspired bridge set, for example. what would a jem'hadar strike ship bridge look like in 2410 without the budget constraints of a television series? what would a dominion-inspired jem'hadar dreadnought bridge look like for a ship that massive? would it actually have chairs, a viewscreen, how many stations would it have on their bridge?
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  • kirimuffinkirimuffin Member Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    But it differed a little bit because this ship is one of our favorites and we know how much you like it.

    "The JHAS is the best ship ever and the players love it!"

    :P

    Seriously, I like these art blogs. Keep 'em coming. Also, I wish some of these concept variants were available as customization options. Not that I'm likely ever to get this ship, due to cost, but still.
  • lebtronlebtron Member Posts: 296 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    There are concept arts I do like even more than the ingame version. I guess that gives room for a t6u and t7 version. *searching for a cover shield*
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  • cidevantcidevant Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    There was Zero reason the JHSS needed to have the JHAS costume as a secondary option. This was a slap in the face. You could have designed any ship. There are dozens of canon ships that are still not in the game for players to use. Instead you decided to outright replace one of the most expensive ships in the game. This just demonstrates to me that you have Zero regard for you customers.
    I wanted to take a moment to respond to the concerns over the blog text from last year that mentioned that the T5 Jem’Hadar Attack Ship would be upgradable to T6 capability. That blog was originally written and released before the introduction of the concept of T5-U ships, so while we meant it could get upgraded to T5-U we couldn’t outright mention this new type of ship at that time. When we released the chart that explained which ships would receive the free upgrade to T5-U, the Jem’Hadar Attack Ship was listed among their ranks. We will be correcting the incorrect text from the original blog, and I would like to personally apologize for the misinformation.
    I hope I’ve helped to clear things up, and I will continue to work towards improving our communication with everyone in the community.
    Stephen Ricossa Executive Producer


    ^ this is just insulting. I don't care how you choose to church it up. You went back on your word.
  • vonhellstingvonhellsting Member Posts: 543 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I don't know the Strike ship looks a little too similar to the Attack ship in my mind it doesn't really feel like a new ship.
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  • kirimuffinkirimuffin Member Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    vonhellsting wrote: »
    I don't know the Strike ship looks a little too similar to the Attack ship in my mind it doesn't really feel like a new ship.

    Yeah, that's my feeling too. It looks like the JHAS but with more cartoony shinies on it.

    Conversely, many of the concept renderings shown in the art blog look more convincingly like a new Jem'Hadar ship. Almost any of them would have been better, IMO.
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    It's funny how the last picture with the finished ship is called: Federation command ship.
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  • aveimperatoraveimperator Member Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies . ~Bluegeek
  • giliongilion Member Posts: 686 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I have to agree with everyone saying that it sucks that this is basically a replacement for the old Attack Ship.

    That being said why cant we have Jem'Hadar ships with the material thats on the cruiser in this pic
    http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/arc/b2/e2/b2e2c493cc29982add6e7a42d38111aa1425944014.jpg

    That looks awesome!
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I'm glad that the decision fell for it to look almost the same as the JHAS. Regardless of what it was and represented in Star Trek, the bugship is kind of an icon and embodiment of the mix of rare and OP in STO - therefore I think it was important and I personally like that it's still a bugship and not something completely different (design wise) from the Dominion owen. STO needs it's bugship. heh :)

    I do want one myself, but they're helluva hard to get. :D
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  • teuteburgteuteburg Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Hi!

    I miss the promised T6 upgrades for the old Jem Hadar attack Ships!

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  • reverseandereverseande Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    pwlaughingtrendy wrote: »
    Captains! The new Jem'Hadar Strike Ship ...


    lol new? Thats the same ship model with the promised features for the t5 jhas :D

    Only reason it can be called "new" is because this type of business is not done face to face.
  • kimonykimony Member Posts: 571 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    If you compare the two bugs side by side the new strike ship looks like a plastic toy. Too smooth and shiny with little surface detail except the "decals" used on the glowy bits.

    The original looks far superior to me.

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  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    kimony wrote: »
    If you compare the two bugs side by side the new strike ship looks like a plastic toy. Too smooth and shiny with little surface detail except the "decals" used on the glowy bits.

    The original looks far superior to me.

    Yep and the hard points they will fire from will look like someone is holding a phaser pistol out of a window lol.
  • pmaddenpmadden Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Soo Should have done numbers 34 and 35 from the thumbs art in the Blog. They look Sweet.

    make em, and make em a Sci/tact ship.


    Do it Now! :cool:

    But Took the engine's in a bit they stick out too far.
  • strixtmachinestrixtmachine Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    kimony wrote: »
    If you compare the two bugs side by side the new strike ship looks like a plastic toy. Too smooth and shiny with little surface detail except the "decals" used on the glowy bits.

    The original looks far superior to me.
    I'm not real familiar with the original but I've seen it around. Looks kinda like a flying baked chicken.

    For those with the original (honestly, I have to shamefully admit I didn't know the post wasn't about the original, eh) what's the gain between that one and this one (besides this being the T6)? Just curious. Cheers.
  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Captains,

    Please limit your commentary to the artwork of the ship, which is what the blog and this thread are about.

    There are other threads if you care to complain about the JHAS not being upgradeable to T6.

    Off-topic posts will be removed.
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  • crusader2007crusader2007 Member Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Take OLD JHAS>copy/paste>make some small edits and call it "T6">make tons of money and tell those who owned the former model "Take it like a man...Best expansion EVER" :D
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  • stoltsstolts Member Posts: 482 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    lebtron wrote: »
    There are concept arts I do like even more than the ingame version. I guess that gives room for a t6u and t7 version. *searching for a cover shield*

    Your sig is awesome. I've always wanted to see what the D'kora's interior looked like. Where did you get it? I'd like to see a bigger picture lol.
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  • zeratkzeratk Member Posts: 409
    edited March 2015
    As the artwork obviously is part of the T6/T5U Issue, because the ship is visually nearly exactly the same, i don't see where this is OT?
    This is Crypticverse... :mad:
  • sentinel64sentinel64 Member Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    kimony wrote: »
    If you compare the two bugs side by side the new strike ship looks like a plastic toy. Too smooth and shiny with little surface detail except the "decals" used on the glowy bits.

    The original looks far superior to me.

    You are aware that the JHSS can be reskinned to look exactly like the old JHAS, which is why many owners of the original JHAS feel slighted. The only other T6 ship to come close to this comparison to a T5 version is the Pathfinder, which has a much lower price tag (no raffle prize involved).

    A new ship with sufficient differences from JHAS would have been a more acceptable ship than a recycle of the original T5 JHAS.

    And yes, I do have a JHSS sitting in my bank still in its box.
  • dean962dean962 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I like the looks of 22, 34, and 35


    http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/arc/1f/c6/1fc6ea12e0001b9b55e7b1a74a5ae45d1425943993.jpg

    They look like they could be a Jem'Hadar attack cruiser. Maybe some kind of Cruiser/escort hybrid. Could we have them?
  • pulserazorpulserazor Member Posts: 590 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    bluegeek wrote: »
    Captains,

    Please limit your commentary to the artwork of the ship, which is what the blog and this thread are about.

    There are other threads if you care to complain about the JHAS not being upgradeable to T6.

    Off-topic posts will be removed.


    We should call it the Jem'Hadar Censor-Ship.
  • breadandcircusesbreadandcircuses Member Posts: 2,355 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    pulserazor wrote: »
    We should call it the Jem'Hadar Censor-Ship.

    This floored me. Well played, sir or madam.

    As to the art, it does hold true to many of the design elements of the JHAS. Honestly, I think that was a bit of a mistake, as it adds yet another reason for owners of the T5-U JHAS to feel jilted by the release of the JHSS. I think a greater departure would have been easier to sell as something new and not a T6 version of the ship promised T6 capabilities... it is simply too "bug" not to be compared to the prior version of the "bugship" that came before.

    Something closer to other Jem'Hadar ships, or the in-game versions of the Jem'Hadar Fighters, could have avoided some of the complaints by being able to see that this was truly a new ship. Allowing the JHSS to share the JHAS skin... not really helping the cause. :P
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    What I'm annoyed about is that: http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/arc/1f/c6/1fc6ea12e0001b9b55e7b1a74a5ae45d1425943993.jpg
    according to concepts 29, 30, 34, 35, one of the designers planned to finally make the impulse thrusters work properly and display trails as well.
    But since it's just a copy-paste of the JHAS with just a new skin, +5 power to engines, a console, and 2 true universal stations, this good idea was dropped as well.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I think Cryptic designers did a good job for a tier 6 interpretation of the Jem’hadar attack crafts. The final result also looks a lot better than some of the sketches seen in the blog.

    The fact that one can mix and match old and new ship parts of the JHSS is also cool. Not that I bother, the new design is just awesome while still being truthfully to the original.

    I always found it easy to imagine the Odyssey as official successor the Enterprise tradition because it simply has been well done.

    Same counts for the JHAS->JHSS. You surely have some talented peeps in art department at Cryptic
    who manage to uphold and expand that universe believable and beautifully.

    Too bad that the remaining aspects of this game only remind me of Ferengi, Paklend and Undine.
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  • mosul33mosul33 Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Very nice and enjoyable blog. Thank you. The team did a wonderful job with the ship.
    saurializard wrote: »
    What I'm annoyed about is that: http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/arc/1f/c6/1fc6ea12e0001b9b55e7b1a74a5ae45d1425943993.jpg
    according to concepts 29, 30, 34, 35, one of the designers planned to finally make the impulse thrusters work properly and display trails as well.

    Yeah, was a bit disapointed too about those trails that they didnt make it into the final product.

    Also one more thing, a lil question for the art team: where would might be the landing gear now? At the old version, in "The 2800 trailer" (http://www.youtube.com/v/B5znfFotn0A?version=3&start=25&end=27&autoplay=0&hl=en_US&rel=0) and also in the winder event map (http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/sto.gamepedia.com/f/f5/Q%27s_Winter_Wonderland_ship.jpg), when the ship was landed, you can clearly see it.
  • humblesheephumblesheep Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    sentinel64 wrote: »
    You are aware that the JHSS can be reskinned to look exactly like the old JHAS, which is why many owners of the original JHAS feel slighted...

    First thing I did, but no disrespect intended, I just wanted to replace my old one with the newer version.

    The original bug will always be the iconic "best ship in the game" to me.
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