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    dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    No it will exist to basiclly troll pvp... where the most broken Command and Intel skills make the game completely unplayable. And we all know this ship is going to have Intel and Command seats.

    There is nothing left to salvage here other then perhaps a great place to RP and for people that don't like RP to annoy the people that do. GG

    i like playing the featured episodes, like a single time. the story is the only real new trek content there is, its the only reason i haven't airlocked my STO install at this point.
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    tucker84tucker84 Member Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Another ship i would like, but will probably never have.

    But tell me, why you didn't put a Jem'Hadar Warp Core on it as well? Why it is not a Jem'Hadar Battlecruiser? This was the perfect opportunity.
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    xstarhammerxxstarhammerx Member Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    With all the cool ships and aliens, I really with there was a truly independent play experience, where you didn't have to join Fed or KDF (without having your game stunted like if you play Rom and just don't choose).
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    thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,984 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    They could get rid of all this anger by just putting these Lockbox ships in the C-Store as well as running the gambling promotion.

    They would get assured sales and some people would still gamble on getting the ship cheaper using the promotion.

    It might end up being more money than they are currently scamming with all the disapproval of their current business practices by their customers.
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    madmac392madmac392 Member Posts: 6
    edited March 2015
    Well this is one I will be spending on Been after the Bug for years so I can use it on the dreadnought carrier, It will be a lot easy than trying to make 500m for the old bug. and the Mats for R&D will help me up grade all my Dominion Polaron Beam to MKXIV or I'll sell it and get the old Bug lol
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    antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    i like playing the featured episodes, like a single time. the story is the only real new trek content there is, its the only reason i haven't airlocked my STO install at this point.

    There is better writing on 100 different fan sites I am sure... stop torturing yourself with bad content with story written by geko.
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    antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    tucker84 wrote: »
    Another ship i would like, but will probably never have.

    But tell me, why you didn't put a Jem'Hadar Warp Core on it as well? Why it is not a Jem'Hadar Battlecruiser? This was the perfect opportunity.

    Because CBS has already ok'd the Jem Bug to be sold as a golden snitch. Rare, and cherished. Every Asian MMO needs one golden mount that only comes around a few times a year right before quarterly reporting time. Its like those lovely little Easter cream eggs that only come around once a year, get em while you can. It would have likely been a lot more work and cost them money to get CBS to agree to another ship....

    So why not just resell the same ship... it has worked like a charm every other time they have done it. Why would this be any different.
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    antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    They could get rid of all this anger by just putting these Lockbox ships in the C-Store as well as running the gambling promotion.

    They would get assured sales and some people would still gamble on getting the ship cheaper using the promotion.

    It might end up being more money than they are currently scamming with all the disapproval of their current business practices by their customers.

    I think you have greatly underestimated how much the gambling makes them. There ins't just the gambling to consider... there is the tanking of R&D materials when they need to (or doffs) they can run either promo when they need to control a market, which like waves on an ocean effects other things and makes them money in other places. There is the key sales (yes some people will open boxes and gladdly charge 5x for Lockbox R&D packs even though they won't have a ship chance... cause Cryptic obviously on purpose hasn't made them different... they look identical on the exchange).

    So key prices are going up... D is going up... the value of useful items like R&D matts is going down.... for a solid month. It all translates into more $ in there pockets even from people who could care less about the ship.
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    riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I think you have greatly underestimated how much the gambling makes them. There ins't just the gambling to consider... there is the tanking of R&D materials when they need to (or doffs) they can run either promo when they need to control a market, which like waves on an ocean effects other things and makes them money in other places. There is the key sales (yes some people will open boxes and gladdly charge 5x for Lockbox R&D packs even though they won't have a ship chance... cause Cryptic obviously on purpose hasn't made them different... they look identical on the exchange).

    So key prices are going up... D is going up... the value of useful items like R&D matts is going down.... for a solid month. It all translates into more $ in there pockets even from people who could care less about the ship.

    "we will continue to monitor the data and tune it as necessary".

    Sums up the whole thing, not only when it comes up with XP. Again, I have zero faith in the current dev team, and our CM likes to troll the PvP subforum. I want brandon back, everything was cool with him around.
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    unequivocaldcunequivocaldc Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Could the JHAS be the only ship that provides hangar pets for JHDC? At least this would make the JHAS still useful.

    Anyways, I had fun with the JHAS.
    If they wish to move on, I guess we have to move along as well.

    Awaiting the next EC Grindable event! :)
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    jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited March 2015
    All of our new players on team speak got lock box ships from this last event ...............It was silly stupid EC LOL
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    dova25dova25 Member Posts: 475
    edited March 2015
    Wow new T6 bug ship .......... I am speechless .

    I eagerly wait for the stats :)) and I wonder what will the price for this on Exchange.
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    dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    There is better writing on 100 different fan sites I am sure... stop torturing yourself with bad content with story written by geko.

    i wouldn't call only logging in the first day of a new season torturing myself, well, assuming the game isn't bogged down and unplayable that day.

    i haven't been a player since a bit before the winter event, when it became crystal clear cryptic was going to double down on the ruination, not make the game as approachable and grind reasonable as it was the previous 5 years, when i could honestly say the game and pvp was good.

    i'd say my greatest regrets for 2014 was buying the delta pack. you know its practically criminal how it was sold under such false pretenses, i thought the game would continue on in a state i could recognize, just like it had every expansion and season before DR. if i had known cryptic was going to LITERALLY take the entire grind and P2W possible in game, and LITERALLY square it by itself, i sure as hell would have dropped it right then and there.
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    notrealednanotrealedna Member Posts: 1,028
    edited March 2015
    i wouldn't call only logging in the first day of a new season torturing myself, well, assuming the game isn't bogged down and unplayable that day.

    i haven't been a player since a bit before the winter event, when it became crystal clear cryptic was going to double down on the ruination, not make the game as approachable and grind reasonable as it was the previous 5 years, when i could honestly say the game and pvp was good.

    i'd say my greatest regrets for 2014 was buying the delta pack. you know its practically criminal how it was sold under such false pretenses, i thought the game would continue on in a state i could recognize, just like it had every expansion and season before DR. if i had known cryptic was going to LITERALLY take the entire grind and P2W possible in game, and LITERALLY square it by itself, i sure as hell would have dropped it right then and there.

    by the way it looks they try hard to TRIBBLE up the game fast...i dont know why they hurry like this.Probably their right to use star trek ip is ending or some other legal issues ,one thing is clear this game wont see 2016 if it keeps it this way.

    I cant believe they sell a old ship as new this is pure insult for anyone with a IQ over 5
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    buzz0942buzz0942 Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    What happened to the old (T6) Bugship?

    It was advertised to be upgradeable "to Tier 6 starship capabilities at no cost".
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    qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    buzz0942 wrote: »
    What happened to the old (T6) Bugship?

    It was advertised to be upgradeable "to Tier 6 starship capabilities at no cost".

    That "mistake" has been cleared up a long time ago, probably shortly after they realized people will rebuy their old ships for even more money. ;)
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    tehjoneltehjonel Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    same model, buff the stats, slap a new skin, throw in a console, no new bridge, and call it a day.


    well done, devs.
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    buzz0942buzz0942 Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    qjunior wrote: »
    That "mistake" has been cleared up a long time ago, probably shortly after they realized people will rebuy their old ships for even more money. ;)

    And with "mistake" you mean deceptive advertising or cryptics sell-wait-nerf business model?
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    dessniperdessniper Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    If you want me to buy the ship PWE, sell it to me out right. I dont gamble and dont plan on it especially when the odds remain hidden.
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    amoroxicamoroxic Member Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Cryptic seems to make BAD business decisions one after another... Wonder if this is intended or is just plain incompetence!

    I think they could have milked much more money out of players IF they charged for a JHAS to JHSS upgrade given the number of existing ships.
    Now they can only watch existing JHAS owners (some... that do have self esteem) NOT buying the new ship just to show that the recent double-triple-quadruple dipping on our wallets IS, in all honesty, wrong.

    Its LOW Cryptic, reason all you want these business decisions, it's LOW towards your loyal customers. You have to realize, your main player base is already HERE (the whales move slow you know, but when they do... they do!), you won't get much more NEW players coming AND stay (see existing bugs and glitches...) But what do i know...

    "Grasp a shadow and lose the substance" seems to be the new business motto at Perfect World Co. Ltd. and Cryptic Studios!
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    bridgernbridgern Member Posts: 709 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    [Sarcasm]At least we have a new EP and everything got better.[/Sarcasm]
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    shevetshevet Member Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Well, the pattern of these promotions has always been "Lobi crystals plus risibly tiny chance of super-duper-ubership"), so no change there.

    Since the JHAS is now a T5 ship, it can't legitimately be marketed as the super-duper-ubership, so Cryptic's choices were "entirely new super-duper-ubership" or "revamped version of the old one", and I think either way, people were going to be unhappy. The super-duper-uberships don't really make sense in terms of Trek canon anyway, no matter what.

    (The alternatives of not having the promotion at all, or coming up with some new and innovative grand prize... might have been explored. But weren't.)

    I think now is the time to lay in a supply of earplugs, for the next set of screams of outrage, a few months from now, when the next promotion hits with the T6 answer to the Voth Bulwark....
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    csbastiancsbastian Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    NOTE: Newly purchased Research and Development packs will only offer the chance to win the Jem’Hadar Strike Ship during this promotional event. Once this event ends, the packs will revert back to their previous state and no longer offer the bonus Lobi or the Jem’Hadar Strike Ship. Any older packs purchased before this event begins will not offer the chance to win the Jem’Hadar Strike Ship.

    Packs purchased during the event, but get opened after the event will still benefit from this promotion’s bonus rewards.

    The highlighted lines from the blog seem to contradict one another.

    0% integrity for the game, and 100% confusing......

    Oh, and thanks for making all my hard work count for nothing!

    You really should change the T5U name to something more appropriate Like Tier-F-U.
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    maddog0000doommaddog0000doom Member Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Well, ah. yeah I'm not one to join a Rage on the forum. Most people have a ridiculous sense of Entitlement. And I defend the game because I love it. And recently the Dev Communication has been superb instead of Non existant.

    And I NEVER cared for the Bug ship or its looks, etc.

    But, This is a T6 Bugship. It even lets you Customize it's appearance to be so. And given that Statement from Last promo, yeah, I'd agree. Previous Bugship owners should be given the option to upgrade their's to this new T6.

    Can't treat this like with the pathfinder, as its own new ship when you already made that statement. It would be a big slap to ANYONE that grinded/Paid to get the last Bugship.

    i agree its a big slap in the face to those that have a bug ship. at the very least we should be allowed to upgrade the bug with a c-store token, specaily after what it takes to get a bug ship in the first place.
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    executiveoneexecutiveone Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    qjunior wrote: »
    That "mistake" has been cleared up a long time ago, probably shortly after they realized people will rebuy their old ships for even more money. ;)

    They made a promise in exchange for money. Whether they subsequently thought better of that promise is irrelevant.
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    megtrekkiemegtrekkie Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    i will say one thing this would be so good if they put them in the reward packs from stfs and fleet action etc but they wont do that coz there money hogging bastereds
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    riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    shevet wrote: »
    Well, the pattern of these promotions has always been "Lobi crystals plus risibly tiny chance of super-duper-ubership"), so no change there.

    Since the JHAS is now a T5 ship, it can't legitimately be marketed as the super-duper-ubership, so Cryptic's choices were "entirely new super-duper-ubership" or "revamped version of the old one", and I think either way, people were going to be unhappy. The super-duper-uberships don't really make sense in terms of Trek canon anyway, no matter what.

    (The alternatives of not having the promotion at all, or coming up with some new and innovative grand prize... might have been explored. But weren't.)

    I think now is the time to lay in a supply of earplugs, for the next set of screams of outrage, a few months from now, when the next promotion hits with the T6 answer to the Voth Bulwark....

    The weak TRIBBLE frigate of the Dominion that was costantly destroyed in DS9 is the best escort in game. And it's about to happen again!
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    notrealednanotrealedna Member Posts: 1,028
    edited March 2015
    The weak TRIBBLE frigate of the Dominion that was costantly destroyed in DS9 is the best escort in game. And it's about to happen again!

    have you seen how good it was the 22nd century xindi escort in the 24th century?
    buzz0942 wrote: »
    And with "mistake" you mean deceptive advertising or cryptics sell-wait-nerf business model?

    they had that? lol
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    sentinel64sentinel64 Member Posts: 900 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    It will come down to two sides, those without a bug will see this as justified since no one now wants an outmoded T5 bug ship even if it comes with free upgrade, and those that do have the T5 bug ship seeing this as being a cheap way of getting more money out of them by usurping the status of the old bug and ignoring a promise to keep the T5 viable. Either way, it comes done to loyalty to the customers... does it exist.
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    riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    have you seen how good it was the 22nd century xindi escort in the 24th century?



    they had that? lol

    Edna what do you expect from someone who keeps adding game breaking content, and one that trolls PvPers. They can tell me I'm having birthday in thirteen days, which is true, and I'd still not believe them.

    Pretty sure they've lined up something else for that date.
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