What is fun?

birkep · February 2015

Please reply with 3 things that you have fun doing in STO.

Examples

Leveling a toon
Finishing a project
Beating a map
Playing with friends

I have lost my fun. I do nothing but grind. Yet I keep falling further behind. Like many players, I have sadly decided to trim down my roster. I will reduce my toons from 8 to 4. Even then I am not likely to get them all to elite level. At this point I ask myself why I bother playing at all. Please help me remember.

nimbull · February 2015

These days, going to Subspace Radio parties when they happen in game. Other then that I use DOFF assignments to slowly grind out levels over 60 and maybe run an STF once in a while doing PuGs in advanced mode for what few STFs still have people left in them.

dgdolph · February 2015

1) Playing with friends
2) Beating some Challanges (lets try to win against Fleet XYZ in arena)
3) Creating new team setups and strats for PvP

So DR brought everything to make those things even more fun:
1) Friendlist is almost empty now
2) We can't beat fleet XYZ since PvP is dead and some teammembers even quit STO
3) My arena Team doesn't exist anymore - some guys quit, others (like me) can't keep up with the grind

tucker84 · February 2015

1. Playing Colony Invasion with my Ferasan.
2. Leveling my new Gorn character.
3. RP in an Open Starbase.

antzudan · February 2015

Playing missions and episodes, but by the time I've done all the slider/rep/doff/daily/grind/rubbish I usually only have time to do one.

noroblad · February 2015

I like to tinker and build on my ships. With a bunch of alts and ships, I always have a char that needs to do something, earn something, etc.

I actually enjoy the STFs. They take a few min to form a group these days but its fun.

I like to level new chars. Every so often I just start a new one. Right now I am working on a toon who only uses what he finds himself for gear, no fleet/rep/supercrafted. It may never amount to much, but at least the content / fights are challenging again.

I like new ships, and its rewarding to pile up the dil and lobi and EC to earn the next one.

anazonda · February 2015

Story content:

Played as a team
Repeatable with branching outcomes.

kodachikuno · February 2015

exploring story arcs
chatting with fleet/friends(DR killed this hard)
the odd Dyson/Kobali BZ run

those would be the top 3, but #3 leads to #4
turning in a mountain of dil for zen

sadly I cannot stomach grinding enough to do that often

coupaholic · February 2015

In no real order, I

- level a new toon after deleting ones I'm bored with
- fly what ships I want, and equip them how I want
- avoid any and all grind like the plague
- to help with the above, stick to normal difficulty and don't bother with reputations, specs or any other pointless 'progression' once hitting level cap

And that's my game in a nutshell.

mirrorchaos · February 2015

remember the nostalgia of simpler times when things may not of worked exactly as you planned, but they were "fun" to play. the old stf's were "fun".

hawku001x · February 2015

this game is fun

please don't burn me at the stake, as i have an imaginary wife and children

vegeta50024 · February 2015

For me, this is my top 3 things that i find fun to do in STO:

1) Being able to play how i choose to play the game. If I want to go collecting dilithium, I can. If I want to focus in on advancing my characters, I can do that too.

2) When foundry is open, being able to work on my missions there.

3) Having fun with my friends when they choose to log on. Honestly, the game is more fun when you do it together.

svindal777 · February 2015

I find the battle zones fun, especially Dyson ground and Kobali. Wish some the ground PvE's would pop more.

Stop grinding and play the game, for fun and entertainment.

mercenary4hire · February 2015

Fun is playing with nice friends and voice chat at the same time. But that isn't happening because there is too much grinding to be done unfortunately. Please Cryptic change your ways make the game fun...

edna · February 2015

Clearly playing with friends is not important.Singleplayer stuffs are the most important in this multiplayer game.....check out the poll.STO players are sociopaths who hate playing with people...the poll shows it

vocmcp · February 2015

This game has stopped being fun a while ago.

My top 3:

1) Grind
2) Grind
3) Grind

waldotrek · February 2015

1 Taking out the Tier 1 Ships and Shuttles for a trip.
2 My Reman ground build. Nimbus is fun!
3 Fun with your fleet. A great fleet is like cake and ice cream. Ok fleets are like Pop Tarts

centaurianalpha · February 2015

I can tell you what's NOT fun:

Having to discover some work-around for a new bugged mini-game
Having to adjust my graphics settings to compensate for server lag
Having to reload my BOffs every time I log in
Having my leveling goals rewritten every 3 months
Having to pay dil for things that were previously an EC cost
Being solicited to buy stuff I don't want, and never asked for
Having my mission rewards nerfed while mission NPC's get buffed
Waiting indefinitely for known bugs to improve

Other than that, I have some measure of fun with the entire STO galaxy...:eek:

ufpterrell · February 2015

Fun? What is this?

I guess fun would be thinking back to when the UI didn't have terrible input lag, before everything became time gated and you were stuck in a never ending grind for specialisation points with increasingly nerfed xp gains.

No, this game isn't really fun anymore. I hardly play anymore, my KDF and Romulan toons aren't even at 60 yet. Too much grind, not enough reward. I really want to get one of the Romulan command ships, just because the model is so nice. However, nothing really to do so whats the point. Might as well spend that £30 on ArmA 3 or something. The fact I can get a full price game/simulation like ArmA for one ship in STO speaks volumes.

gavinruneblade · February 2015

birkep wrote: »

Please reply with 3 things that you have fun doing in STO.

Examples
Leveling a toon

Finishing a project

Beating a map

Playing with friends

I have lost my fun. I do nothing but grind. Yet I keep falling further behind. Like many players, I have sadly decided to trim down my roster. I will reduce my toons from 8 to 4. Even then I am not likely to get them all to elite level. At this point I ask myself why I bother playing at all. Please help me remember.

1. Being teamed with friends and talking in character while making bad guys go boom (note, I dislike standing around a social zone roleplaying. Almost bordering on hate such rp. I love talking in character while actually playing missions).

2. The dyson ground zone. Especially in teams. Nonstop action, very low gear requirements. And awesome rewards all rolled into one.

3. The tailor. I... Spend more zen on costumes than gear and I spend hours in the tailor instead of grinding.

nccmark · February 2015

1) Discovering I've made a new, fun, successful ship build with repeatable results.
2) First time episode play (or re-runs after I've long forgotten what happens).
3) Giving quick pointers to new players who ask for help (not handouts)

alcyoneserene · February 2015

What I've had fun with and still hope to do more of:

The trek/sci-fi RP aspect of mmorpg: your characters, environments, and sequence of events over time, like a story that unfolds, often in unexpected ways
Challenging encounters while leveling up where strategy and learning various game elements are necessary, where victory and defeat are always an uncertainty, and where you have good feedback from the use of available skills/resources within a storyline that you feel a part of
Meeting new friends to do the above with or to just have a good time with even if that means radio dj parties on risa

Current Reality:

Grind
Rush through content, because more time for grind
Keep player interactions at minimum, because Rush through content, because more time for grind

Why grind then? To be able to take part in advanced STFs and advanced difficulty missions to still have access to rewards while everyone else is buying powercreep/grinding even harder for a game that's selling power at an exponential rate that's making yesterday's stuff borderline competitive or obsolete.

And still considering the time being invested in this game vs fun coming out of it.

gavinruneblade · February 2015

alcyoneserene wrote: »

Why grind then? To be able to take part in advanced STFs and advanced difficulty missions to still have access to rewards while everyone else is buying powercreep/grinding even harder for a game that's selling power at an exponential rate that's making yesterday's stuff borderline competitive or obsolete.

*checks DPs league records.... Lots and lots of t5u ships (especially scimitar and recluse)... Not very many t6 ships at all*

*compares new command vs older intel.... Nope, not seeing the power creep here either*

I'm not seeing this p2win you're concerned about. I see people think it, and complain about it, but outside of the faeht and phantom in PvP many top ships are t5u, and command is not game changing like Intel was.

Pve you can still do everything with mirror ships and mark 11/12 gear. Even in advanced queues.

Nothing is obsolete yet.

farmallm · February 2015

Here is mine.

1 - Playing my Fed, KDF, and Romulan. Each one is different in their style and what happened to them. So for RPing this gives me a lot of ways to do stuff.

2 - Ground and space battles. These are fun and lately proven challenging. This is good since it makes me think and makes it fun.

3 - Stories. These just keep getting better. Keep them coming! This is one of the primary reason why I play.

catliketyping · February 2015

Flying a Bird of Prey. Most fun ships in the game IMO.

I can do very nice spike damage, I can drop Grav Wells, and you have the Cloaking & Flanking games. The only thing you can't do is take any damage at all :P

BoPs are not for everyone. That's why you don't see a ton of them even amongst KDF players. A lot of the content isn't very friendly for the BoP style of play. However, it's still very rewarding for dedicated BoP pilots.

dakkalvar1 · February 2015

I think the OP speaks for 80%+ of the players who started Delta Rising. I highly doubt more than half of those people still play this grindfest...

thutmosis85 · February 2015

1. Playing the occasional Foundry ...
2. Log Out
3. Play something Fun, instead ...

razar2380 · February 2015

Before Delta Rising:
1-Hanging out with fleet mates, and friends.
2-STF and PVE runs as they came off cool down.
3-Testing new builds, and setups.
4-Playing on all of my 13 characters evenly (I had no main).
5-Doing almost everything but ground combat, unless I needed dil to get something.

After both the Crafting system, and DR release:
1-Sitting, and chatting with friends (only because I don't have a way to pm with them outside the game).
2-Finishing the DR episodes (not the ridiculous grind to do them).
3-......sorry, can't think of anymore.

Honestly, I have missed seeing a LOT of friends online. The first few days of the anniversary grind brought them back, till the lag, rubber banding, and bugs reminded them why they left. Now, I only log in to do the Anniversary grind, and finish the episodes (which I am taking my time with, since there is nothing else I have left to do that is fun).

I have all the reps done on my new character, which I made my main since it is pointless to have more than one. And since we can no longer get the bonus Dil for the marks we saved, that killed what little desire I still had for the STF/PVE queues now that the rep systems are done, and the advanced queues are still DPS races that I have no care for.

As for crafting, I am leveling it up, but I have no desire to get it done. If it ends up leveled, then it is. If not, I don't really care.

As for upgrading weapons or gear, I started, but instead of giving us a break from the ridiculous Dil amounts, they tried to use the anniversary grind to draw more players with the Omaga upgrade. After the event, and the traces can no longer be obtained, we will still have the extremely overpriced Dil charge.

And now, instead of trying to fix problems with the queues, bugs, etc. they just throw more ships on the C-Store to try to sell power creep.

Honestly, the things that were fun in the game have been so messed up that a lot of casual players can't keep up, and even a lot of regular players like myself have lost interest in it. I am just waiting for the next rep grind, new FE, or grind event to get a T6 ship, because they are not worth buying from the store.

To others that like the game like it is, congrats. Personally, I liked it when it was something that both casual and hardcore players could do, and the difference only mattered when they went into PVP. I have chased the DPS rabbit before, and when there is little (if any) reward, it is not fun for me.

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