Level 60+ players, I have a question. After the winter event (and the double XP weekend that has appeared on the in game calendar) its going to get pretty quiet in the game.
What do you plan on doing? The STF queues will still be suffering from the "reporting error", kerrat is like a ghost town (level 60 players have their own instance for some reason) and PVP is dead.
So what will all my fellow level 60+ players be doing?
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
My guess is "hope" keeps people not playing but posting on the forums. For others, its a path of sad realization and closure. Grieving takes time. The worst "haters" here love the game, or did at some point.
I think I'll mainly be killing Borg too. I might do a patrol if I need delta marks but that's about it. I won't be running STFs so I won't be available as "content" for the whales. I'll be doing the bare minimum.
Relaxing now after Winter Wonderland is completed for my FED. ROM and KDF are at it still!
I do a few PVE and then make sure Delta Rep on 3 toons are now past Tier 4 and slowing getting to Tier 5. Once that is done who the heck knows. Borg, Borg just so much I'll put up with. I would like to do something else in STO, but my limits are few. But I always find myself at Nimbus 3 where I can beam down my entire BOF (4 of them) and running around shooting BOSS and getting 60 DIL for doing so. Run around help others just run endlessly. Then leave and more on to the next spot!
I will do at level 60 the same things I did for 4.5 years at level 50.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
My guess is "hope" keeps people not playing but posting on the forums. For others, its a path of sad realization and closure. Grieving takes time. The worst "haters" here love the game, or did at some point.
Dunno yet, probably just cycle through my alt roster and see who is the highest level so I can begin concentrating on that one particular character. Than I would work on buying or begging for fleet marks donations for our KDF fleet starbase.
Measuring the declining player base Month over Month?
Dusting old inactive queues so they at least look used?
Our starbase has been finished for 8 months.
I don't really need marks.
I have all the gear worth getting.
Chatting with friends from my fleet. *needle scratch on a record* Wait, they're not playing anymore.
Truth is - no frakking idea. I used to love this game - could not wait to get online. It was an escape from work. Now this has become work with no escape.
I will be playing ESO and SWTOR, while checking in to do one race a day on my toons in winter wonderland and farming epohhs.
Still using that sig...
BTW does SWTOR get much more engaging after level 20ish? I've been trying to get into it, but I'm just not getting hooked. That, and the character animations are just ghastly beyond belief.
My guess is "hope" keeps people not playing but posting on the forums. For others, its a path of sad realization and closure. Grieving takes time. The worst "haters" here love the game, or did at some point.
BTW does SWTOR get much more engaging after level 20ish? I've been trying to get into it, but I'm just not getting hooked. That, and the character animations are just ghastly beyond belief.
Pros vs. STO
Better story content
Broad use of voice work
More interactive crew mechanics, including crew-specific mission arcs
Better Ground combat
Active queues and rewards that make those queues worthwhile
Better character balance
Faction balance
Level reflects character ability
More rewarding leveling process, and special unlocks for all characters based on race/class
Top-tier items and equipment are available via item drops
Can buy/sell any cash shop unlock to/from other players on the auction house
Cons vs. STO
More heavily monetized without a Sub (though I am beginning to question this)
Even gear quality above Rare is locked, including modular upgrades to cosmetic gear
Less visual customization
Only two character slots without purchasing upgrades or a Sub
Little to no Space combat to speak of
Very similar Crafting, though SWTOR used it first
You send your off-duty boff-equivalents rather than having to purchase separate doff-equivalents, though
Personally, I've been considering giving it a go again; that comparison is based on my experience awhile ago with SWTOR and currently with STO. Dead queues, glacial progression, diminished rewards, etc. are dragging STO down, though, despite the fact that STO is a better game (IMHO) and has a better means of earning cash shop items. STO is still good, but in many ways I didn't find Delta Rising to be an improvement on what came before.
I'll probably just stick to the casual gameplay I've changed over to and call it good, though; it's cheaper not giving the aft end of a terran rodent. :P
With each passing day I wonder if I stepped into an alternate reality. The Cubs win the world series. Donald Trump is President. Britain leaves the EU. STO gets a dedicated PvP season. Engineers are "out of control" in STO.
When I get to Lv60. I will do the same thing I was doing at Lv50. Working on my Alts to get them caught up. And I have 2 lower level characters I could play to get them caught up.
However if they keep putting out new content. I might not get to see a "down time". Even before DR came out. I didn't have a long time to wait with my Fed Eng. Who is my primary character.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Along with dying a little more on the inside each time I answer a question regarding T6 ships (I don't own any) and R&D/crafting (I do not involve myself with it too heavily) with "I don't know." from people who have known me for a very long time and have come to approach me for advice whenever new game mechanics or shinies come out.
Along with showing up on the forums from time to time in the hope there are changes coming down the pipeline that will make me want to involve myself with the game more.
BTW does SWTOR get much more engaging after level 20ish? I've been trying to get into it, but I'm just not getting hooked. That, and the character animations are just ghastly beyond belief.
most of the stuff before 20 is just to grinding to gain levels. Later your powers, especially for Jedi and Sith, become much better and the battles can be epic, the story gets better too. The animations are pretty ghastly, and no mmo is really all that engaging.
Space the final frontier. These are the voyages of [your name here] on a five year mission to gain one level after the delta rising xp nerf.
Thanks, that's actually exactly the kind of breakdown I was looking for.
I was supremely disappointed in the character generator to be sure, but the fact that it runs smooth as silk at 1440p and looks nearly as good as STO, despite dreadfully stiff animations, definitely made me happy in the graphics department.
I guess I'll give it some more time to sink in and see how it goes.
most of the stuff before 20 is just to grinding to gain levels. Later your powers, especially for Jedi and Sith, become much better and the battles can be epic, the story gets better too. The animations are pretty ghastly, and no mmo is really all that engaging.
Thanks to you as well, appreciate it!
As to engaging, yeah you can say that, but some MMOs just have the capacity to really hook me at some point - STO did that with the space PvP for me at one point, WoW did it with the fact that they actually bothered with tying all the lore together - it may be ultra clich
My guess is "hope" keeps people not playing but posting on the forums. For others, its a path of sad realization and closure. Grieving takes time. The worst "haters" here love the game, or did at some point.
Same as I've done since starting (4-20-14). Just cruising around, hitting random Patrols, PVe's,
STF's, Foundry Missions, Doff'ing, FE's, Red alerts, etc., etc., etc..
Lvl (60)+8 now. Who knows, might even wrap up DR content some day.
Same things I'm doing now and likely will be doing through the double XP weekend as well (first nerf XP into the ground and then have double XP events? 2x not very much is still not a lot):
* Log in to keep the 20-hour hamster wheel R&D research projects going
* Set up whatever Doffing I can find without leaving ESD (won't go to Delta out of spite)
Stopped playing Delta Rising before they nerfed apori, repeat, before they nerfed japori.
Game was pretty much over because content drought.
It don't really matter they ask me to grind out 800 patrols and millions of dil - for copy-pasted text, per character, there is still a content drought. To me that all counts for nothing.
So in short we are back to having a content drought only they now MAGICALLY also managed to kill off the queues and earning dil.
What do we do, show up for the free stuff then go play something else hoping they wake the f... up?
With each passing day I wonder if I stepped into an alternate reality. The Cubs win the world series. Donald Trump is President. Britain leaves the EU. STO gets a dedicated PvP season. Engineers are "out of control" in STO.
Stopped playing Delta Rising before they nerfed apori, repeat, before they nerfed japori.
What do we do, show up for the free stuff then go play something else hoping they wake the f... up?
Yup. I only do the Fastest on Ice so I can get a tactical/carrier on my Romulan science officer because the Romulans don't have a specific one. I do about 5 quick R&D 20 hours by clickie, and some DOFF winter things another quick clickie.
Then I just log off.
Basically, I stick with the new end-game, the forums.
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mainly killing borg.
why?
It's fun
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
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I do a few PVE and then make sure Delta Rep on 3 toons are now past Tier 4 and slowing getting to Tier 5. Once that is done who the heck knows. Borg, Borg just so much I'll put up with. I would like to do something else in STO, but my limits are few. But I always find myself at Nimbus 3 where I can beam down my entire BOF (4 of them) and running around shooting BOSS and getting 60 DIL for doing so. Run around help others just run endlessly. Then leave and more on to the next spot!
Time will only tell!
Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
Same here. Like Scotty said.
This is exciting!
En garde!
Dusting old inactive queues so they at least look used?
Our starbase has been finished for 8 months.
I don't really need marks.
I have all the gear worth getting.
Chatting with friends from my fleet. *needle scratch on a record* Wait, they're not playing anymore.
Truth is - no frakking idea. I used to love this game - could not wait to get online. It was an escape from work. Now this has become work with no escape.
You sir win this thread.
Still using that sig...
BTW does SWTOR get much more engaging after level 20ish? I've been trying to get into it, but I'm just not getting hooked. That, and the character animations are just ghastly beyond belief.
Pros vs. STO
Cons vs. STO
Personally, I've been considering giving it a go again; that comparison is based on my experience awhile ago with SWTOR and currently with STO. Dead queues, glacial progression, diminished rewards, etc. are dragging STO down, though, despite the fact that STO is a better game (IMHO) and has a better means of earning cash shop items. STO is still good, but in many ways I didn't find Delta Rising to be an improvement on what came before.
I'll probably just stick to the casual gameplay I've changed over to and call it good, though; it's cheaper not giving the aft end of a terran rodent. :P
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However if they keep putting out new content. I might not get to see a "down time". Even before DR came out. I didn't have a long time to wait with my Fed Eng. Who is my primary character.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Along with dying a little more on the inside each time I answer a question regarding T6 ships (I don't own any) and R&D/crafting (I do not involve myself with it too heavily) with "I don't know." from people who have known me for a very long time and have come to approach me for advice whenever new game mechanics or shinies come out.
Along with showing up on the forums from time to time in the hope there are changes coming down the pipeline that will make me want to involve myself with the game more.
most of the stuff before 20 is just to grinding to gain levels. Later your powers, especially for Jedi and Sith, become much better and the battles can be epic, the story gets better too. The animations are pretty ghastly, and no mmo is really all that engaging.
Thanks, that's actually exactly the kind of breakdown I was looking for.
I was supremely disappointed in the character generator to be sure, but the fact that it runs smooth as silk at 1440p and looks nearly as good as STO, despite dreadfully stiff animations, definitely made me happy in the graphics department.
I guess I'll give it some more time to sink in and see how it goes.
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Thanks to you as well, appreciate it!
As to engaging, yeah you can say that, but some MMOs just have the capacity to really hook me at some point - STO did that with the space PvP for me at one point, WoW did it with the fact that they actually bothered with tying all the lore together - it may be ultra clich
STF's, Foundry Missions, Doff'ing, FE's, Red alerts, etc., etc., etc..
Lvl (60)+8 now. Who knows, might even wrap up DR content some day.
BCW.
* Log in to keep the 20-hour hamster wheel R&D research projects going
* Set up whatever Doffing I can find without leaving ESD (won't go to Delta out of spite)
* Log off and play some other game
Game was pretty much over because content drought.
It don't really matter they ask me to grind out 800 patrols and millions of dil - for copy-pasted text, per character, there is still a content drought. To me that all counts for nothing.
So in short we are back to having a content drought only they now MAGICALLY also managed to kill off the queues and earning dil.
What do we do, show up for the free stuff then go play something else hoping they wake the f... up?
Pretty much, yes. :P
Yup. I only do the Fastest on Ice so I can get a tactical/carrier on my Romulan science officer because the Romulans don't have a specific one. I do about 5 quick R&D 20 hours by clickie, and some DOFF winter things another quick clickie.
Then I just log off.
Basically, I stick with the new end-game, the forums.
Until, Cryptic wakes the <redacted> up!
Out of all the people I would have thought you had a t6 by now Iconians... you should really do the winter event of the t6 carrier :-)
In my case I'll be doing the same thing... having fun with my fleet....
Basically STO is now the equivalent of one of those annoying facebook games.
Free Tibet!