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Literary Challenge #69 - Winter Wonderland Celebrations - Discussion Thread

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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Just posted mine, something I literally wrote on a half-hour break from studying. Enjoy!

    I don't normally go for songfics, but that was pretty awesome. :cool:
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    just Posted Mine, Something I Literally Wrote On A Half-hour Break From Studying. Enjoy!

    Can't. Stop. Laughing.
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
    — Sabaton, "Great War"
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    Can't. Stop. Laughing.

    Hey, starsword, are you still using that google doc for the foundry mission? Because I found some stuff while reading the Koran that might or might not be applicable, depending on how far you want the analogy to extend; it's basically, the group that the bad guys are based on are not only beyond evil, their actions also constitute sacrilege in about 2 or 3 dozen different ways.
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    While Arkos still has an attitude, it's good that he's learned to bend a little since his time on the Avandar, and not treat his subordinates like inferiors for having different beliefs and customs. Besides, as he has probably noticed (and Q seemed to be driving home), there are really two different Christmas holidays: one that is religious, and one that has lost that connection to its roots. As a starship captain it would be problematic if he compelled participation in anything, but to actually ban people from celebrating would be a sort of "establishment of irreligion" that would be a path to something as bad as he remembered from his own past.

    I wonder what Q's motivation was in this (indeed, in the Winter Wonderland in general), since I can't imagine him having any respect for tradition.

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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,485 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    gulberat wrote: »
    I wonder what Q's motivation was in this (indeed, in the Winter Wonderland in general), since I can't imagine him having any respect for tradition.
    Insofar as I can tell, Q's motivation for anything is a desperate quest to relieve the boredom of immortality. The sapients of the Federation, especially Humans and Andorians, give him the most backtalk, so he really likes hanging around with (and bothering) them.
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    Insofar as I can tell, Q's motivation for anything is a desperate quest to relieve the boredom of immortality. The sapients of the Federation, especially Humans and Andorians, give him the most backtalk, so he really likes hanging around with (and bothering) them.

    Gotta wonder what he thinks of our characters...

    "D'trel? Oh, yeah, her. Great tragedy, really gut-wrenching. It's fun to TRIBBLE with her when her life is just looking up."

    "That unit thing? I like seeing her TRIBBLE around with the universe. Comedy gold. Plus it's always fun to see people's reactions when she does something REALLY evil or says something REALLY crazy.

    Plus she acknowledges my supreme greatness. This is a good thing in every way."

    The important part to remember is that Q is a total d*ck.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Hey, starsword, are you still using that google doc for the foundry mission? Because I found some stuff while reading the Koran that might or might not be applicable, depending on how far you want the analogy to extend; it's basically, the group that the bad guys are based on are not only beyond evil, their actions also constitute sacrilege in about 2 or 3 dozen different ways.

    I've actually been researching the Qur'an and Islamic religious practices a bit myself so I can get the religious aspects of Jaleh's character right (I do very much want an accurate portrayal of a Twelver Shiite). Although I think in this case that would be stretching the analogy a bit far: near as I can tell the True Way are in favor of state atheism and persecute the Oralians for being religious at all.
    jonsills wrote: »
    Insofar as I can tell, Q's motivation for anything is a desperate quest to relieve the boredom of immortality. The sapients of the Federation, especially Humans and Andorians, give him the most backtalk, so he really likes hanging around with (and bothering) them.

    That was pretty much what I had in mind when I wrote him into "An Anomalous Nightmare" last year. I'd put him slightly towards Chaotic Good from Chaotic Neutral if we were using D&D alignments. John de Lancie Q does try to actually be helpful (unlike Junior, who's an immature jackass), but he's doing it because it amuses him. Eleya really doesn't like people like that.
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
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  • catriecatrie Member Posts: 0 Media Corps
    edited December 2014
    @catrie - Quick, to the point, witty, and original. You really impressed me. I'm sorry that I've ignored other entries that you've made, since I can't seem to recall the other two, but this one did it's job and did it well. I'd like to read them if you don't mind linking them.

    Thanks, :) I'm glad you liked it. Here's the links to my previous two.

    #67: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=19135301&postcount=15

    #68: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=19683941&postcount=3
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    "Solaere ssiun Hnaifv’daenn" (lit. "Aid to the Needy").

    Crew of the ch'M'R Aen'rhien:
    • Khre'Riov Morgaiah ir'Sheratan t'Thavrau, commanding officer: Dina Meyer
    • Riov Sarsachen i'Amriel tr'Sauringar, executive officer: Christopher Eccleston
    • Erei'Riov Tovan ir'Hfihar tr'Khev, chief of security: Jon Huertas
    • Lieutenant Commander Jaleh Khoroushi, operations officer and Starfleet liaison officer: Naz Deravian
    • Arrain Sahuel i'Tlhira t'Khnialmnae, tactical officer: Daniela Ruah
    • Doctor Emira i'Kallia t'Vraehn, chief medical officer: Parminder Nagra
    • Enarrain Ael t'Lhoell, assistant security chief: Bridget Regan

    Other characters:
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
    — Sabaton, "Great War"
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    "Solaere ssiun Hnaifv’daenn" (lit. "Aid to the Needy").

    Crew of the ch'M'R Aen'rhien:
    • Khre'Riov Morgaiah ir'Sheratan t'Thavrau, commanding officer: Dina Meyer
    • Riov Sarsachen i'Amriel tr'Sauringar, executive officer: Christopher Eccleston
    • Erei'Riov Tovan ir'Hfihar tr'Khev, chief of security: Jon Huertas
    • Lieutenant Commander Jaleh Khoroushi, operations officer and Starfleet liaison officer: Naz Deravian
    • Arrain Sahuel i'Tlhira t'Khnialmnae, tactical officer: Daniela Ruah
    • Doctor Emira i'Kallia t'Vraehn, chief medical officer: Parminder Nagra
    • Enarrain Ael t'Lhoell, assistant security chief: Bridget Regan

    Other characters:

    Super awesome, fun to read, nice to see some more religious diversity.

    And was that a shout-out to D'trel there?

    Loved it!
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Super awesome, fun to read, nice to see some more religious diversity.

    And was that a shout-out to D'trel there?

    Loved it!

    What, "attack pattern D'Trel Five"? Yeah,that was originally going to be.Shinzon but then it occurred to me that the Kholhr is basically a torpedo bomber. So why not make a singularity/torpedo combo be a D'Trel reference?
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
    — Sabaton, "Great War"
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    What, "attack pattern D'Trel Five"? Yeah,that was originally going to be.Shinzon but then it occurred to me that the Kholhr is basically a torpedo bomber. So why not make a singularity/torpedo combo be a D'Trel reference?

    Yeah, it sounds like her style; of course, in the Kholhr that'd be cloak, jump, lightning turn, shoot. Nasty combo for an escort that can shoot from cloak.

    My ego is preening just a little. :D
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,485 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Apparently, after the success of Apollo 11, a council of mullahs addressed the question of how to pray if you're not on Earth. The consensus was that as long as you're facing in the general direction of Earth, you must be facing toward Mecca. (Also, in the event you're on another planet and transport to Earth is impractical, the hajj can be satisfied by making a pilgrimage to the first place humans landed on the world.)
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Yeah, it sounds like her style; of course, in the Kholhr that'd be cloak, jump, lightning turn, shoot. Nasty combo for an escort that can shoot from cloak.
    Yeah, well, obviously I had to make a couple modifications for Morgan's D'deridex, which just has the regular Romulan Battle Cloak. In game terms, given my D'D build, she sing-jumped, fired the Hyper-Plasma Torpedo launcher, cloaked and hit Evasive Maneuvers, APO1 and Aux2Damp 2, then dropped cloak and fired BO1 from the dual beams.
    jonsills wrote: »
    Apparently, after the success of Apollo 11, a council of mullahs addressed the question of how to pray if you're not on Earth. The consensus was that as long as you're facing in the general direction of Earth, you must be facing toward Mecca. (Also, in the event you're on another planet and transport to Earth is impractical, the hajj can be satisfied by making a pilgrimage to the first place humans landed on the world.)
    That is so awesome that they thought ahead that far. Certainly the "face towards Earth" solution for the Qibla is a lot simpler than the Malaysian National Space Agency solution, which was to face in the direction you would've faced from where you launched. That runs straight into the "there's no up in space" problem.

    I also like the one they did in Pitch Black where they pray facing the sky when on another planet. Granted, according to my research the reason for the prostration, face touching the prayer mat, is to divorce the salat from any possible worship of the sun or the moon, both of which were prevalent when Islam originally came about.
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
    — Sabaton, "Great War"
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  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I'm way behind on commenting so just to say I've enjoyed all the entries.
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  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,770 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    nice work! i may have inadvertently started reading starsword's entry continuing the rhythm of ambassadormolari's

    @starswordc great work w the islamic integration with star trek, never seen it done before
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    Apparently, after the success of Apollo 11, a council of mullahs addressed the question of how to pray if you're not on Earth. The consensus was that as long as you're facing in the general direction of Earth, you must be facing toward Mecca. (Also, in the event you're on another planet and transport to Earth is impractical, the hajj can be satisfied by making a pilgrimage to the first place humans landed on the world.)

    Where did you find this? I actually may need that for the Dominicani Muslims.

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  • ambassadormolariambassadormolari Member Posts: 709 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    Can't. Stop. Laughing.

    :D
    gulberat wrote: »
    While Arkos still has an attitude, it's good that he's learned to bend a little since his time on the Avandar, and not treat his subordinates like inferiors for having different beliefs and customs. Besides, as he has probably noticed (and Q seemed to be driving home), there are really two different Christmas holidays: one that is religious, and one that has lost that connection to its roots. As a starship captain it would be problematic if he compelled participation in anything, but to actually ban people from celebrating would be a sort of "establishment of irreligion" that would be a path to something as bad as he remembered from his own past.

    In part, yes, his experiences in Starfleet have gotten him used to the idea that theists aren't necessarily all bad. Though thinking of his subordinates as inferiors is putting it a little harshly: true, they all believe in (to him) ridiculous superstitions, but he tends to judge his subordinates based on their competence and potential rather than on their personal views. In many ways, experience in Starfleet has made him a lot more tolerant than when he started, though he still tends to straddle the line between quiet respect for others' beliefs and the occasional bout of 'your-belief-is-dumb-and-you-should-feel-dumb' arrogance.
    I wonder what Q's motivation was in this (indeed, in the Winter Wonderland in general), since I can't imagine him having any respect for tradition.

    Many others here have already given very good answers, but the short answer: because he's Q. He does what he wants, when he wants, to who he wants, until he gets bored and switches to something else.
    starswordc wrote: »
    "Solaere ssiun Hnaifv’daenn" (lit. "Aid to the Needy").

    Crew of the ch'M'R Aen'rhien:
    • Khre'Riov Morgaiah ir'Sheratan t'Thavrau, commanding officer: Dina Meyer
    • Riov Sarsachen i'Amriel tr'Sauringar, executive officer: Christopher Eccleston
    • Erei'Riov Tovan ir'Hfihar tr'Khev, chief of security: Jon Huertas
    • Lieutenant Commander Jaleh Khoroushi, operations officer and Starfleet liaison officer: Naz Deravian
    • Arrain Sahuel i'Tlhira t'Khnialmnae, tactical officer: Daniela Ruah
    • Doctor Emira i'Kallia t'Vraehn, chief medical officer: Parminder Nagra
    • Enarrain Ael t'Lhoell, assistant security chief: Bridget Regan

    Other characters:


    Awesome, really enjoyed it (though despite your casting of Jerry Doyle, I find it a little hard to envision a Romulan version of Garibaldi). Otherwise, I really liked the character of Jaleh, and further like the distinctive way in which you wrote the Romulan perspective, though I am going to have to remember to keep a Rihannsu dictionary on hand in future.

    Incidentally, the whole situation on the colony reminded me a lot of the recent Ebola scares and the utterly stupid reactions to them (ie, people in the afflicted African nations refusing to take vaccines for fear of it all being some insidious Western plot). I was also reminded, rather unpleasantly, of the anti-vaxxer crowd, so I confess I felt more than a little bit of gratification when they were scared into submission.

    @grylak: Wow. :eek: Just when I think the crew of the Viper has suffered enough, you drop something like this on them. Bleak as they are, I am really liking your stories about the Viper: you pull no punches, and the strain of events shows on the way your characters act and interact. Your stories remind me a lot of Battlestar Galactica in their grittiness, and I think this is what Voyager should have been like-- a daily struggle for survival instead of a merry romp through the Delta Quadrant.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Awesome, really enjoyed it (though despite your casting of Jerry Doyle, I find it a little hard to envision a Romulan version of Garibaldi).
    Yeah, that was mostly a joke to reinforce the Babylon 5 homage. John Saint Ryan, the guy I cast as tr'Venku, played the freighter captain that Sheridan dared to shoot him in the scene I cribbed.
    Otherwise, I really liked the character of Jaleh, and further like the distinctive way in which you wrote the Romulan perspective, though I am going to have to remember to keep a Rihannsu dictionary on hand in future.
    I actually tried pretty hard to tone down the Rihan this time, after the complaints we got regarding all the untranslated Rihan in Saith Daehpahr hrrafv Llaiirevha. Glad you liked Jaleh.
    Incidentally, the whole situation on the colony reminded me a lot of the recent Ebola scares and the utterly stupid reactions to them (ie, people in the afflicted African nations refusing to take vaccines for fear of it all being some insidious Western plot). I was also reminded, rather unpleasantly, of the anti-vaxxer crowd, so I confess I felt more than a little bit of gratification when they were scared into submission.
    Don't even get me started, I despise anti-vaxxers no matter what reason they give, even religious obligations. Refusing a life-saving blood transfusion is one thing, but not getting vaccinated negatively affects people you'll likely never even interact with. Case in point, the 2013 New York measles outbreak that started from a family of ultra-orthodox Jews, one of whom caught it on a trip overseas.

    I do very definitely believe in both God and freedom of religion, but as far as I care you do not have the right to TRIBBLE up the lives of people who haven't agreed to follow your religious rules. In the words of Zechariah Chafee as quoted by Supreme Court justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, "Your right to swing your arms ends just where the other man's nose begins."

    Recent Nova episode on the subject if anyone's interested (though I've heard that PBS.org streaming doesn't work for non-US viewers).
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
    — Sabaton, "Great War"
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  • grylakgrylak Member Posts: 1,594 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    @grylak: Wow. :eek: Just when I think the crew of the Viper has suffered enough, you drop something like this on them. Bleak as they are, I am really liking your stories about the Viper: you pull no punches, and the strain of events shows on the way your characters act and interact. Your stories remind me a lot of Battlestar Galactica in their grittiness, and I think this is what Voyager should have been like-- a daily struggle for survival instead of a merry romp through the Delta Quadrant.



    I am so pleased you say that. When I decided to try this lost in another galaxy thing, my inspiration was to do what Voyager should have been like (hence the occasional mild dig about their reset button each week). Though not intentional, I guess it shouldn't be a surprise I've channeled BSG a bit. It is my all time favourite show. I'm sure I read somewhere Ron Moore did BSG in the way he did partly because he wanted to do voyager in this manner, with it being a week by week struggle and being overruled by higher ups. So he did BSG with the intention of doing the premise properly.



    I've just finished writing up a nice little scene that follows on from this story, but I think I'll keep it for the opening of the next challenge.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I think that was quite possibly Hawk's best crackfic yet. The pun on "resistance is futile" was pretty damn funny.
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
    — Sabaton, "Great War"
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    That's actually what they say in wave 10 of Tides of Ice. Doesn't make it any less funny, though.

    Nice one, hawk. Induced a solid three-minute laughing fit, my roommate looked at me like I was insane.
  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,770 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    thanks :D

    here's the background info on my entry: link
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    edited January 2015
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  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    USS Bajor to Starfleet Command, our next prompt is overdue. Anybody heard from Captain Smirk?
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    ch'M'R Kholhr to Raenasa s'Kreh'ddhokh mol'Rihan, we're just sitting here in space with nothing to do...when will we get the new LC?
  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    you are asking the wrong way.

    it doesn't include insults or this broken - fix it demand.. :rolleyes:
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,485 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    My apologies for publishing the mere scene-setting I produced, but it seemed the only part of the story that was salvageable. And I worried that if I let another month go by without publishing anything, I might give up on writing altogether, and I'm not ready to do that yet.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    jonsills wrote: »
    My apologies for publishing the mere scene-setting I produced, but it seemed the only part of the story that was salvageable. And I worried that if I let another month go by without publishing anything, I might give up on writing altogether, and I'm not ready to do that yet.

    Sometimes short is good. That was pretty damn funny.
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
    — Sabaton, "Great War"
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