Which famous characters are still alive?

just123me · December 2014

I want to know which well known characters from all shows are still among the living in STO.
Not the real life persons rather the figures they represented in the shows.
I am mainly interested in the fate of Janeway, Chakotay, Sisko, Picard, Riker, Troy, Data.
there are lot more interesting characters but we all know these guys best.
Are the faces and appearance of Star Trek actors actually the property of CBS or do they have to ask/pay Patrick Stewart for permission if they wanted to show Captain/Admiral Picard in the game?
I know they don't wanna show famous Trek persons without proper voices, it just doesn't feel right so it's unlikely we'll see them in STO. I still would like to know who's around still even if old and retired.

uryenserellont · December 2014

They've been written about in books so it might depend on if you consider them canon.

I'm sure some are old and retired by now though.

ussberlin · December 2014

There is a STO Book were you can read it. As far as i know Picard is an Ambassador on Vulcan. Data is lost with the Enterprice-E somewere i hope we can find him sometimes. ... History to 2409 you could also read

withnail68 · December 2014

Picard was Born in 2305, so he would be 105 years old in game time.

thecosmic1 · December 2014

You can read the Path to 2409 PDF to get some of the answers here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzH6eyVeXZg9ZGI2MjkwYzctM2Y4YS00ZDk3LWE4ZmEtNWZmYjE5Y2Y4ZTc1/edit?pli=1

And yes, Cryptic would need to get permission from the actors to use their likeness in the game - and that permission often comes with a price tag.

Bill Prady, the producer of The Big Bang Theory, talks about needing CBS' permission, Abrams' permission, and Quintos' permission just to use a new Spock cutout in the TV show.

thutmosis85 · December 2014

withnail68 wrote: »

Picard was Born in 2305, so he would be 105 years old in game time.

Admiral McCoy was 137 in TNG ... so what ...

thecosmic1 · December 2014

thutmosis85 wrote: »

Admiral McCoy was 137 in TNG ... so what ...

Yeah, but we would not call his appearance at that age spry.

baddmoonrizin · December 2014

ussberlin wrote: »

There is a STO Book were you can read it. As far as i know Picard is an Ambassador on Vulcan. Data is lost with the Enterprice-E somewere i hope we can find him sometimes. ... History to 2409 you could also read

According to the STO Wiki, the Enterprise-E is destroyed, but Data survived:

"While it has not been mentioned in-game, the short story "Unexpected Honor" by head writer Christine Thompson reveals that the Enterprise-E has, in fact, been destroyed by Undine forces while investigating Starbase 236. Though the ship itself was lost, most of the crew, including Captain Data, survived."

http://sto.gamepedia.com/U.S.S._Enterprise_%28NCC-1701-E%29

just123me · December 2014

Ok, thx for the answers. Given that Picard is 105 now answers the age of the others. Mostly 80+ then. I don't know the average life expectance in the 25th century but i think they won't be much of a help in STO anymore, they deserve their retirement. Farewell guys.

thecosmic1 · December 2014

just123me wrote: »

Ok, thx for the answers. Given that Picard is 105 now answers the age of the others. Mostly 80+ then. I don't know the average life expectance in the 25th century but i think they won't be much of a help in STO anymore, they deserve their retirement. Farewell guys.

Off the top of my head, Picard was the Ambassador to Vulcan until his retirement a couple of years ago. He now lives on his familyl's vineyard. Janeway is an Admiral and the person looking into the Hobus Incident. Riker and Troi are on the Titan. Data was Captain of the E until it was destroyed by Undine. He does not currently have a command - he might be teaching at the Academy.

And in case you did not know, the timeline for the game is set 30 years past the events in Nemesis. So everyone has aged.

noroblad · December 2014

just123me wrote: »

Ok, thx for the answers. Given that Picard is 105 now answers the age of the others. Mostly 80+ then. I don't know the average life expectance in the 25th century but i think they won't be much of a help in STO anymore, they deserve their retirement. Farewell guys.

105 BUT the whole crew was subjected to a planet that reduced their age. What long term effects that might have had ... ??? Pretty sure that affected at least picard, worf, riker, (troy??), crusher, and a few others.

Also we have a universe where time is a physical thing that can be altered; it would be possible to fetch these individuals by going back in time and dragging them forward.

In some ways trek is like a bad soap opera. If the writers want it to happen, it will happen.

thutmosis85 · December 2014

thecosmic1 wrote: »

Yeah, but we would not call his appearance at that age spry.

Well he was still on active duty ... so I don't see why 80-100 year olds shouldn't be ...

flash525 · December 2014

Starting with the obvious, we know that the following people are still very much alive;

Tuvok
Seven
Harry Kim
The Doctor (though him being alive is questionable)
Neelix (unfortunately)
Sela
Worf

I would expect most of the TNG and DS9 cast to also still be with us, that includes everyone not already mentioned above. The only possible exception to this might be Sisko (cause I don't believe STO has a definition on his current state of existence). The same would go for the remainder of the Voyager cast; we know Naomi and Ichab are alive on K7, and we know that Miral Paris is alive and well too.

The only people I can think of that aren't mentioned as having done something, or as still being alive are Ezri, Bashir, Kiera and (outside of a reference made to them by their daughter) Tom (and B'Elanna) Paris/Torres.

Edit: With regard to old age, we must remember this is the future. Even Archer lived to be a ripe old age (referenced in JJ's Star Trek as being the reason Scotty had a TRIBBLE assignment). If that's not a good enough example, then think back to the TNG episode where McCoy visited the Ent-D.

neomodious · December 2014

Sisko kinda got abducted by the prophets, and could conceivably reappear without having aged

tilarium1979 · December 2014

TNG
Jean-Luc Picard, 105 Last known details, Ambassador to Vulcan in 2387
William Riker, 75 Last known details, 2386 Captain Riker testifies to reinstate Data into Starfleet.
Deanna Troi, 74 Last known details, promoted to Captain sometime after 2379.
Worf, 70 Last known details, 2410 Hanging out in the Great Hall on Qo'nos.
Beverly Crusher, 86 Last known details, 2390 Captain of the USS Pasteur, still active in 2410
Wesley Crusher, 62 Who knows, was supposed to be a traveler but was part of Rikers crew on the Titan
Data, 72 Last known details, 2409 Captain of USS Enterprise-E
Geordi La Forge, 75 Last known details, 2397 Captain of the USS Challenger, still active in 2410

DS9
Ben Sisko, 78 Last known details, a God
Julian Bashir, 69 Last known details, active in 2375
Jadzia Dax, DEAD
Ezri Dax, ?? Last known details, 2409 Captain of the USS Aventine
Kira Nerys, 67 Unknown
Nog, ?? Last known details, 2397 Chief Engineer of the USS Enterprise-E
Miles O'Brien, 82 Last known details, 2375 Engineering professor at Starfleet Academy.
Odo, ?? Last known details, Part of the great link
Rom, 80-ish Last known details, Grand Nagus of the Ferengi
Quark, ?? Last known details, Head of Quark Enterprises

That is using either details from STO or the last known details at their end of their series. I didn't get into Voyager.

I understand peoples desire to see their favorite characters in the game but in all honesty, some of them shouldn't be. Considering their ages, mostly a factor with the TNG crew, most of them should be happily retired by now.

As was said, Cryptic needs permission from the actors to use their likeness. That's why Castillo looks nothing like Castillo or sounds anything like Castillo. Also why, for a while, Worf looked nothing like Worf and why Martok was removed and why we haven't been allowed to go to the Ferengi homeworld or interact with many of the old cast members. It's just better to not use them then change their appearance. Castillo was only a very minor character in 1 single episode and I still remember the uproar about him looking and sounding nothing like he was supposed to.

lordkhorak · December 2014

neomodious wrote: »

Sisko kinda got abducted by the prophets, and could conceivably reappear without having aged

Not so much abducted, but yes, time is basically irrelevant to him while he's with the Prophets.

cecil08 · December 2014

I'll go ahead and do Voyager (Most of them are obvious):

Voyager:

The Doctor: Active, working in Delta Quad as CMO on Voyager
Tuvok: Admiral, commanding officer of Voyager
Neelix: Active, working as Starfleet Ambassador and with the other Talaxians
7 of 9: Somehow hasn't aged AT ALL (*sigh*), still talks like a Borg and hasn't found any of her humanity (*double sigh*). Oh and active on Voyager with Tuvok (I just wish they would have made her a LITTLE more human since it is 30 some odd years since she was rescued)
Harry Kim: Captain of the USS Rhode Island. Also is <REDACTED>

Katheryn Janeway: Admiral, at Starfleet (The Doctor mentions her in a mission in STO)
Naomi Wildman: On DS K7
Icheb: on DS K7
Tom Paris: Unknown
B'elanna Torres Paris: Unknown
Miral Paris: Active on the USS Kirk (and apparently occasionally spawns in Club 47)

zulisvel · December 2014

It took longer to look this up than I cared to.

ToS:
Spock - Trapped in the JJverse
Everyone else - They're dead Jim. :P

TNG:
Picard - Retired as Ambassador to Vulcan, currently resides on family vinard in France (Path to 2409)
Riker - Starfleet admiral. (STO novel "The Needs of the Many")
Data - Turned down command of the Enterprise F and resigned from Starfleet following the loss of the E. Accepted a position at Oxford Universty where in his spare time is building an android body that is assumed to be a replacement for B-4, who was confined to a holographic one following Data's "rebirth." (STO short story: "Unexpected Honor" - written by Christine Thompson, lead writer for STO)
Deanna - Starfleet Captain overseeing a team developing new holographic technology. (STO novel "The Needs of the Many.")
Worf - In game, General in the KDF.
Geordi - Captain of the Galaxy class USS Challenger (STO novel "The Needs of the Many")
Dr. Crusher - Served as captain of the USS Pasteur until 2401 when she was promoted to admiral. Became head of Starfleet Medical in 2402 (path to 2409)
Dr. Pulaski - Unknown.
Wesley Crusher - Returned to Starfleet aboard the Titan as assistant chief engineer (Star Trek: The Tour, short film)
Ro Laren - Turned herself in to Starfleet in 2380 and pled guilty to desertion charges, after serving time in a penal colony joined the Bajoran Militia and was assigned as chief of security to DS9 (Path to 2409, not seen in game)
Guinan - Unknown.

DS9:
Sisko - Still in the wormhole.
Kira - Retired, became a vedic and was elected Bajoran Space Pope (Kai) (NPC dialog on DS9)
O'Brien - Head of the Starfleet Corps of Engineers (Path to 2409)
Dr. Bashir - Unknown.
Ezri Dax - Captain of the USS Aventine (in game dialog)
Odo - Still with the Founders (in game dialog)
Quark - Head of Quark Enterprises, conning you into opening lockboxes since 2409. :P
Nog - Chief Engineer of the Enterprise-E until it's loss.
Garak - Member of Cardassia's Detapa Council (Path to 2409)
Jake - Award winning journilist and author (STO novel "The Needs of the Many")
Kasidy - Moved to Cestus III to raise her and Ben's daughter (STO novel "The Needs of the Many")
Rom - Still Grand Negus (Path to 2409)
Leeta - still with Rom (in game dialog)
Morn - In game, Quark's Bar, DS9

Voy:
Janeway - Admiral, last known assignment was invistigating the Hobus supernova (Path to 2409, in game dialog)
Chakotay - Admiral, Starfleet Intellegence (Path to 2409, in game dialog)
Tuvok - Rear Admiral, commanding officer USS Voyager (in game)
B'Elanna - Unknown
Kim - Captain, USS Rhode Island (Delta Rising)
Paris - Unknown.
The Doctor - Won a legal battle to be declared sentient and granted a lieutant commander commission by Starfleet, assigned to Galor IV (Path to 2409). Active in game (Delta Rising).
Neelix - leader of a group of Talaxians (Delta Rising)
Kes - Unknown (Persona note: I haven't finished all the DR content yet so I don't even know if she's mentioned.)
Naomi Wildman - Commander of Deep Space K-7 (in game)
Seven - Joined operation Delta Rising at the persona request of Tuvok (Delta Rising)
Icheb - Lt. Commander, first officer of Deep Space K-7 (in game)

Ent:
They're dead Jim. :P

leviathan99 · December 2014

tilarium1979 wrote: »

TNG
Jean-Luc Picard, 105 Last known details, Ambassador to Vulcan in 2387 Retired to a reconstructed Picard Vineyard in La Barre, France where he suffers from Irumodic Syndrome According to the STO novel, had an artificially conceived son by Beverly who lives on Mars and makes champagne
William Riker, 75 Last known details, 2386 Captain Riker testifies to reinstate Data into Starfleet. According to the STO novel, had a daughter with Troi who married Picard's son
Deanna Troi, 74 Last known details, promoted to Captain sometime after 2379.
Worf, 70 Last known details, 2410 Hanging out in the Great Hall on Qo'nos.
Beverly Crusher, 86 Last known details, 2390 Captain of the USS Pasteur, still active in 2410
Wesley Crusher, 62 Who knows, was supposed to be a traveler but was part of Rikers crew on the Titan
Data, 72 Last known details, 2409 Captain of USS Enterprise-E According to the STO stories in ST magazine, is a professor at Oxford -- not Cambridge like in AGT. Is rebuilding Lore's body to download B4 into. B4's brain is backed up to a Holodeck. Data is in B4's body.
Geordi La Forge, 75 Last known details, 2397 Captain of the USS Challenger, still active in 2410 According to the STO novel, married Leah Brahms, who left her husband for Geordi, in contrast to non-STO novels where she was widowed. Had three children: Bret, Sidney, and Alandra. Divorced from Leah. Married to unnamed chief engineer of the Challenger.

DS9
Ben Sisko, 78 Last known details, a God Has a child by Kassidy Yates
Jake Sisko, ?? According to the STO novel and old STO website references, is a novelist and a journalist. His life has proceeded almost identically to how it played out in "The Visitor", which makes sense because the final shot of DS9 on TV was a perfect remake of a scene in The Visitor.
Julian Bashir, 69 Last known details, active in 2375
Jadzia Dax, DEAD
Ezri Dax, ?? Last known details, 2409 Captain of the USS Aventine
Kira Nerys, 67 Unknown Is Kai of the Bajoran religion after a spiritual reawakening led her away from military service
Nog, ?? Last known details, 2397 Chief Engineer of the USS Enterprise-E
Miles O'Brien, 82 Last known details, 2375 Engineering professor at Starfleet Academy.
Odo, ?? Last known details, Part of the great link
Rom, 80-ish Last known details, Grand Nagus of the Ferengi
Quark, ?? Last known details, Head of Quark Enterprises

Christine Thompson wrote short stories for Star Trek magazine set in STO's timeline. I've made updates based on the magazine and the novel.

tilarium1979 · December 2014

zulisvel wrote: »

It took longer to look this up than I cared to.

Everyone else - They're dead Jim. :P

Tell me about it, I only did the majors in TNG and DS9 and it took a while.

As for Scotty, he's only 113 right now, so could still be kicking. After all, Picard is only 8 years younger and is still kicking.

Pulaski was never given a Birthday or even year, but she was around 100 when she was on the D... so yeah, probably dead.

I ignored using the novels and other unofficial material as they aren't cannon and STO isn't required to follow them. Wasn't aware of those STO novels though, those are certain STO cannon and I'm going to have to try and find them!

EDIT: The way you keep referring to the E, sounds like it was destroyed!? Don't remember it being mentioned in game what happened to the E. Is it in one of these short stories? Don't tell me what happened to it, I have to read! Where do I find these stories?

zulisvel · December 2014

The fate of the E and why Data is at Oxford can mostly be found in the short story "Unexpected Honor" in Star Trek Magazine #40.

Scotty and McCoy I assume are considered deceased because my understanding is that CBS has "retired" their characters for the post-TNG Star Trek era following the deaths of DeForest Kelley and James Doohan. From what I've heard the novelverse gave them rather nice sendoffs.

age03 · December 2014

baddmoonrizin wrote: »

According to the STO Wiki, the Enterprise-E is destroyed, but Data survived:

"While it has not been mentioned in-game, the short story "Unexpected Honor" by head writer Christine Thompson reveals that the Enterprise-E has, in fact, been destroyed by Undine forces while investigating Starbase 236. Though the ship itself was lost, most of the crew, including Captain Data, survived."

http://sto.gamepedia.com/U.S.S._Enterprise_%28NCC-1701-E%29

No he didn't.It why it did so poor at the box office and with ratings on Enterprise going down.It why CBS pulled the plug on the Trek franchise.There have been write up by other about the Death of Data.Think they could of use shuttles transporters or the shuttles themselves but they wanted to kill Data off.This plus the death of Capt. Kirk was the finale nail in the coffin for Star Trek we know.Captian Kirk is my Favouite of them all.

http://youtu.be/8NNtaq2mnhU

http://youtu.be/xdqzJvoH-_4

Nothing has been said about Sulu,Chekov,Uhara and Rand as wellas few others from the Era.It is and and alway will be the most famous era of Star Trek.

thutmosis85 · December 2014

age03 wrote: »

No he didn't.It why it did so poor at the box office and with ratings on Enterprise going down.It why CBS pulled the plug on the Trek franchise.There have been write up by other about the Death of Data.Think they could of use shuttles transporters or the shuttles themselves but they wanted to kill Data off.This plus the death of Capt. Kirk was the finale nail in the coffin for Star Trek we know.Captian Kirk is my Favouite of them all.

http://youtu.be/8NNtaq2mnhU

http://youtu.be/xdqzJvoH-_4

Nothing has been said about Sulu,Chekov,Uhara and Rand as wellas few others from the Era.It is and and alway will be the most famous era of Star Trek.

Nobody is talking about "Nemesis", besides that was "Commander Data" ... in STO Lore, Data was "revived" in B4's Body and got command of the Enterprise-E, soon after "Captain Data" & the Enterprise-E was "lost" ...

age03 · December 2014

thutmosis85 wrote: »

We're not talking about "Nemesis", besides that was "Commander Data" ... in STO Lore, Data was "revived" in B4's Body and got command of the Enterprise-E

He should never have been and I have never heard his voice in STO lore.I guess that could Capt. Kirk is still alive then.

thutmosis85 · December 2014

age03 wrote: »

He should never have been and I have never heard his voice in STO lore.I guess that could Capt. Kirk is still alive then.

Voice ? Lore ? I haven't heard any "Voice" in STO's Lore ... because it's Lore !? What are you even talking about ...

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Data

... and nope Kirk is still dead ... even in STO ... besides he would be 177 years old ... not sure if you want him to be alive :P

jonsills · December 2014

I haven't heard Robert Beltran's voice in-game, either. I guess that means Chakotay is dead, right?

Look, you've been told what STO's lore is. Data recovered in B-4's body (as implied by the closing scenes of Nemesis); Captain Riker testified on his behalf, and managed to get his commission reinstated. He was promoted to Captain and assigned command of Ent-E, which was destroyed by Undine action. He survived this, retired, and took up a teaching position at Oxford.

Whether this agrees with your headcanon is irrelevant. It's the backstory of the game itself.

age03 · December 2014

thutmosis85 wrote: »

Voice ? Lore ? (I haven't heard any "Voice" in STO's Lore ... because it's Lore !? What are you even talking about ...

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Data

... and nope Kirk is still dead ... even in STO ... besides he would be 177 years old ...

I have heard all the Actors voices in STO but Data's is not there and you are only assuming about Kirk.As far as I ma concerned he is till abourd the Enterprise A.I never saaw that shp make it back to spacedock.

TREKS NO 1 Captian.

http://youtu.be/BUPK2tTx0tc

Then he is still alive here

http://youtu.be/zFjikVnvypg

@jonsills

Look, you've been told what STO's lore is. Data recovered in B-4's body (as implied by the closing scenes of Nemesis);

You got this all wrong .

thutmosis85 · December 2014

age03 wrote: »

I have heard all the Actors voices in STO but Data's is not there and you are only assuming about Kirk.As far as I ma concerned he is till abourd the Enterprise A.I never saaw that shp make it back to spacedock.

TREKS NO 1 Captian.

http://youtu.be/BUPK2tTx0tc

Not sure which voices you're hearing, but I haven't heard "All the Actors Voices" in STO ... and yes I'm sure 177 year old Kirk is still on the Enterprise A ... seriously what are you smoking ?

age03 · December 2014

thutmosis85 wrote: »

Not sure which voices you're hearing, but I haven't heard "All the Actors Voices" in STO ... and yes I'm sure 177 year old Kirk is still on the Enterprise A ... seriously what are you smoking ?

He is still in the 23rd Century.

thutmosis85 · December 2014

age03 wrote: »

He is still in the 23rd Century.

And STO is still in the 25th Century ...

age03 · December 2014

thutmosis85 wrote: »

And STO is in the 25th Century ...

So what there is absolutely no canon in this game what so ever.It was the wrong time to start this game as it should of started off in 2230.I would love to see some races from StarFleet Battles enter the game after all it has taken off of Star Fleet Command.

Which famous characters are still alive?

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