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When is it happening? I want my commander intel slot in a Bird of Prey already. Soon.
And a disruptor lance... Mwhahaha.
And a disruptor lance... Mwhahaha.
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Ideally, I'd want to see a "Evolved B'rel" Intelligence Raider that draws inspiration for its silhouette/planform from the evocative lines of the D'k Tahg. Keep it a relatively "flat" and blade-like appearance, similar to what was done with the Eclipse Cruiser for Starfleet, except follow the form of the D'k Tahg shape. So there'd be a rhombus shaped "saucer" section in front of a pair of identical secondary "hulls" that are side by side which rejoin each other at the aft end. In the aft end of the ship you have the forward swept wings, all in the same plane as the rest of the ship (as opposed to moving downwards like with all other Raiders). The "guard" of the D'k Tahg is thus the aft engineering section with impulse engines and everything. The tang and hilt/pommel of the D'k Tahg then becomes the impulse engine trail.
For aerodynamic flight, this ship would be using the rhombus shape of the forward "saucer" as a lifting body/canard to balance the lift from the forward swept wings aft, thereby balancing the center of lift for the ship closer to the ship's center of mass in the longtitudinal middle. Put a "stealth" texture on the geometry, color the lighting Klingon Orange/Red and make sure that the aft wings have an illuminated feather pattern on them and ... you're done with the LOOK of a KDF Intelligence Raider.
Game mechanically, what you'd want is probably something like this:
Intelligence Raider
Forward Weapons: 4
Aft Weapons: 2
Crew: 60
Bridge Officers (4): Universal Commander/Intel, Universal Lt Commander/Intel, Universal Lieutenant, Universal Lieutenant
Devices: 2
Consoles: 3 Engineering, 3 Science, 3 Tactical, 2 Universal
Turn Rate: 22
Impulse: 0.22
Inertia: 75
Bonus Power: +15 Auxiliary Power (not a typo!)
Abilities: Enhanced Battle Cloak, Active Sensor Arrays
Starship Trait: Torpedo Sensor Drones
This ship launches sensor drones from its torpedo tube, rather than its shuttle bay, enabling the ship to minimize its exposure time and maintain its Enhanced Battle Cloak. When using Active Sensor Arrays abilities while the Enhanced Battle Cloak is active, the ship's cloak will drop for a few seconds, leaving the ship momentarily exposed with the shields down.
I'm thinking that ought to do it ... :rolleyes:
Protonic Kool-Aid Down The Drain Cruiser
Immortal BOff Skills combo for Ground
They should just make universal boffs seats..universal. As in able to use any boff in the game. Including intel. It would have done wonders for the Fleet B'rel. Even with the intel boffs. I don't think it would have been OP. Thats why I think they should have done it.
Cryptic would have sold more stuff if they released faction specific packs. I'm not wasting 125$ for Fed. TRIBBLE they ripped off from TRON. :rolleyes: Too bad they're ignorant.
They would have made more money if they released at least 3 ships for KDF and RR both, to cover the base classes. But they didn't, cause they're ignorant.
Just like their ignorance and bone-headedness regarding the faction specific hull materials for the DSDs. They could've made 50$ out of me for the KDF pack back then, I was seriously looking forward for a good Klingon science ship. A good Klingon science ship, not a plastic toddler's toy burdened by arbitrary restrictions cause some dev. insisted that his/hers idea of "cool" must be imprinted on everyone. And now, in a T6 era they're caving in and giving hull specific materials. lol
Anyway, not to derail - the next KDF ships should be a T6 Intel BoP. That much is clear to anyone with half a brain. If they're smart the next ship they make will be a Intel BoP. If they're smart.
Reminds me our only heavy bop we had is now 2 consoles behind and not able to upgrade it lol. They could at least on the most lazy possible scenario is just allow players to use the hegh'ta skin on the hoh'sus.
Other issues with the crafting tied to doff system, the intentional super slow doff assignment completions, and the problems with ques/game play overall being TRIBBLE with everything broken I couldn't really get into this even if it had an intel bop because right now its like you have all these resources at your disposal that have been grinded up but the state of the game is so bad right now its just not feasible to play until it all gets fixed. As well this current lockbox is really really crappy. Most likely what we will see from now till end of spring will be lots more fed intel ships + a borg lockbox when the current one ends.
In a way I feel bad for them at Cryptic though because this went so the wrong way that it made me give up the game for the most part(as much as I've played its just gotten that bad).
I want something between http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Orion_interceptor and http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon_Bird-of-Prey
Of course that's if we ever get a new BoP.
I will trade *low end* officer seats (extra lt for example) for the universal seating if the ship is a 5/2 5-tac BOP. Honestly convert the raptor they gave us with the officers set to universal and drop a LT seat -- it would be MORE than FINE by me.
It would simply lose too much versatility that BoP have had.
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BOFFs:
Hybrid Intel/Tactical CDR
Universal LTCDR
Universal LTCDR
Universal LT
Universal ENS
Consoles:
5 tac
3 eng
2 sci (3 on the fleet version)
those poor races are the only ones with no ship to their name.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
But last week I created a new KDF char and have been leveling him with BoP's only and I fell in love with the class again. I'm note sure we need an Intel BoP (although no other ship fit the job description better) but we do need a T6 BoP. After all, it is the mainstay of the Klingon Fleet.
Qapla'
Figured I'd wait a while before replying, let people make their points without interference before responding. :rolleyes:
Point 1:
What I wrote was just an "opening bid" and also trying to stay on the conservative side of potentials. Why? Because it's "easier" to buff things up than try to decide how to nerf things down. Also, any areas that are lacking can get easily spotted and tweaked the second time around.
Point 2:
Something that I noticed pretty quickly, looking through all the specs for the other Intel ships that have been released was a very distinctive pattern. Intel/Commander + Intel/Lieutenant. This was consistent across all the ship stats I could find. It was always the 2 and 4 seats that got the Intel Hybrid treatment. You'll note that the specification I was offering for the Intelligence Raider above has Intel/Commander + Intel/Lt Commander ... which was the 3 and 4 seats, instead of just the 2 and 4 seats. In other words, I was already reaching for "better than thou" in a somewhat inobvious way.
Point 3:
To be fair, I made no mention of this in my previous post, but ... if there is a justified need to increase the BOff seating in a T6 Raider beyond the stock & standard 4322 seating seen on T5/T5U Raiders (and to be even more fair, I'm quite sympathetic to the argument) it then becomes a question of how to structure the expansion. Most arguments I've seen angle towards 5 BOffs and adding an Ensign, which in my opinion is in effect pretty darn weaksauce. I mean ... 43221? Really?
No ... if given my preferences, for a T6 Intelligence Raider ... I'd honestly rather keep the 4 BOff seating layout, which is a "unique feature" of the KDF Raiders, and instead angle for a 4332=12 All Universal BOff seating. And ... I'd want to have the Intelligence Hybrid stations being 1 Commander and 1 Lt Commander. So really it would be more of a 4332 BOff seating. We'd still have only 4 BOffs instead of 5, but we'd have access to +1 Lt Commander BOff skill instead of +1 Ensign BOff skill and another BOff Trait.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'd much rather promote a Lieutenant to Lt Commander than I would prefer to have yet another Ensign. In other words, a more "concentrated" command crew that builds "up" in a way that no other line of ships does, rather than one that spreads "out" (so to speak) like every other ship in the inventory.
Protonic Kool-Aid Down The Drain Cruiser
Immortal BOff Skills combo for Ground
Also, the Tier 4 New Romulus Trait you're referring to is Sensor Targeting Assault (renamed Sensor Cascade Failure below, with a slight tweak to include Flanking), which is actually a Weapons Offline on Critical Hit. The closest thing going to a "placate" in Traits is the Intimidating Strikes genetic resequencer from the Hirogen Lockbox, which is actually a Confuse, not a Placate. I'm therefore going to assume you meant the former rather than the latter.
Intelligence Raider
Forward Weapons: 4
Aft Weapons: 2
Crew: 60
Bridge Officers (4): Universal Commander/Intel, Universal Lt Commander/Intel, Universal Lt Commander, Universal Lieutenant
Devices: 2
Consoles: 3 Engineering, 3 Science, 3 Tactical, 2 Universal
Turn Rate: 22
Impulse: 0.22
Inertia: 75
Bonus Power: +15 Auxiliary Power (not a typo!)
Abilities: Active Sensor Arrays, Enhanced Battle Cloak, Flanking
Universal Console (restricted to Intelligence Raiders): Active Sensor Analysis
- Note: Use of Active Sensor Analysis detoggles Enhanced Battle Cloak.
Starship Trait: Sensor Cascade FailureYou will render your target's weapon subsystems offline when you land a critical hit in space combat, as long as this effect is active. A successful critical hit will consume this effect temporarily, which will refresh 20 seconds later.
Protonic Kool-Aid Down The Drain Cruiser
Immortal BOff Skills combo for Ground
I'd support that, although some players may complain that it needs 5 fore weapons. I was going to suggest that this ship could be the long asked for K'Vort, but I am betting me simply thinking of that will get me grief from some of the hard core flamers who say your stats are nowhere near what the K'Vort's stats are reported as being.
On that basis I think that the new T6 BoP would need to be, well, new - but a K'vort skin would probably help sales no end at no extra cost.
5 forward weapons belongs on something heavier than a Raider.
Raptor? Okay.
Battlecruiser? Okay.
Carrier? No complaints.
Raider? Um ...
This is one of those 5+4 vs 4+5 debate points ... as in you can either have 5 weapons and 4 Tactical consoles ... or 4 weapons and 5 Tactical consoles (which in this case would be 3 Tactical consoles joined by 2 Universal consoles, but we won't mention that too loudly will we? :rolleyes:) ... but you aren't going to be getting a 5+5 layout. That's just too big of an "ask" to ever get granted. So when it comes down to that, I'd rather have a 4+5 than a 5+4.
Protonic Kool-Aid Down The Drain Cruiser
Immortal BOff Skills combo for Ground
Eh I disagree especially due to the fact we at one point had a competitive heavy raider but Cryptic pretty much left that behind. However the 5 forward weapon would work I could see it working out like having 5 forward and 1 slot that has to have a torpedo and then no rear slots. Mostly especially since we are yet to even get anything like remans have where you can extend/modify the ambush cloak buff(if you do it right you can have close to a minute of cloak ambush on remans vs KDF's 5 seconds lol).
Edit: One thing I overlooked about that K'vort falling out of favor in dominion war was most likely due to the dominions ability to detect cloaked ships. If you remember they were only used on quick raids or reinforcements for big starfleet battles.