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Devs, where is our intel BoP?
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It's a fair questions, feds get 4 ships, one of every class and 2 sci vessels. Roms get 2 ships, they honestly should have got a sci vessel, and KDF gets a battlecruiser with battlecloak, instead of the raptor. What gives?
It's not like we're asking for much, in fact, you could save yourself time by making say the B'rel variants at T5u be able to equip intel boffs. I'd shut up then. But by not giving us the ability to have an intel raider, which makes much more sense than an intel battlecruiser, you're gimping the KDF (again).
I'm not really shocked. Disappointed is more like it. A few lines of code, and you could have made a lot of KDF players very happy. Its like you purposefully spit at us, defy logic, and want to make us lose. But we will persevere, we will overcome. Because we are Klingons you honorless peta'Q:mad:
It's not like we're asking for much, in fact, you could save yourself time by making say the B'rel variants at T5u be able to equip intel boffs. I'd shut up then. But by not giving us the ability to have an intel raider, which makes much more sense than an intel battlecruiser, you're gimping the KDF (again).
I'm not really shocked. Disappointed is more like it. A few lines of code, and you could have made a lot of KDF players very happy. Its like you purposefully spit at us, defy logic, and want to make us lose. But we will persevere, we will overcome. Because we are Klingons you honorless peta'Q:mad:
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Back to the Intel Ships, i think the Mat'ha would have been a better choice as a Intel Ship, and of course base stats would have been different if the Mat'ha would have been a Intel Ship instead of the Qib. I have no doubts that a Intel BoP, if it had came out when DR launched would sell alot better than the Qib... but right now, we've got the Qib as Intel and the Mat'ha as the basic T6 ship. As for the next KDF Intel ship the BoP's i believe should be first on the list since a end game C-store BoP is overdue, isince it already have a Battle Cloak, i believe the Intel BoP's should have Enhanced Battle Cloaks like the Romulans Warbirds which have BC's on their standard Warbird and their Intel Warbirds have EBC'S. as for future KDF Intel Raptors and Battle Cruisers designs of course they should stick with the BC's
Really...if the Klingons were sending a stealth Intelligence ship, what would they send?
A BoP. Stealthiest ship, high damage. THey have no use for feddybear space whales.
Exactly. Why would they suddenly deviate from what they've ALWAYS done effectively?
I seriously don't get why there isn't an "Advanced Intelligence" BoP.
But yeah, need more BOP from this century
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They could always declare the K'vort a intel BoP, or hell even if they made it a T6 BoP that could use a LT intel officer. I'd be dancing around like a little girl. Providing it got 4 tac consoles, and all universal stations like everything else. There was a time when I wouldn't include that, but knowing cryptic they'd give it 5 engi consoles or some bs and only give it a ltcmdr tac or something.
One could really make the case that Battlecruisers are what truly define the Klingon military.
However, outside them, the B'Rel has been the most prolific and has had more Star Trek movie appearances than any ship class that wasn't a Constitution-class.
Constitution-class: 6 movies
Excelsior-class: 3 movies (Forgot to include Ent-B in Generations)
Sovereign-class: 4 movies
K'T'Inga-class: 2 movies
B'Rel-class: 5 movies
Galaxy-class: LOL, 1 movie
Yes, the B'Rel has had more movie appearances than even the Sovereign-class.
Anyways, the BOP fits the ideal of what the Intel ships are all about. Stealth, gathering information, hit & run, etc. When it came down to special missions, the Klingons didn't use D-7/K'T'Ingas, Vor'Chas, Negh'Vars. No, it was the simple Bird of Prey.
Of all the ships that General Martok could have chosen to put his flag on as leader of all Klingon forces on the Dominion War front, he chose to lead in a Bird of Prey. Not only during stand up fights, but on deep strikes behind enemy lines.
We have seen Klingon captains use the BOP in other various long ranged, stealthy missions. It fits everything of what the STO Intel lineup is all about.
And even if they didn't want to release a BoP because they might be considered obsolete in the 25th century, the raptor fits the bill.
I'm left with one conclusion. The devs kicked KDF players in the nuts on purpose. Again. Unless D'Angelo comes out with a nice explanation otherwise, I don't understand why it would have been so damn hard to either 1, make the matha the intel ship with battle cloak, 2: release a BoP with at least a Lt intel slot. :mad:
Yeah, I feel like I've been kicked in the nuts, too. And then face slammed into the pavement. And then set on fire. And pissed on.
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if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
As in I've seen KDF players face stomp feddie bears in it with the right build. It's a beastly ship.
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But i would replace it with a t6 bop, even if i had to spend another 3000 zen.
Currently i am thinking of going back to my t5u bop, seems like i cant live without it.
Sorry calling BS right there. There was. 3 Battlecruisers used in the Original Star Trek Movie, 3 more used in Star Trek II WoK in the opening scene. One used in Star Trek 6.
BS they didn't have any movie quality Battlecruisers.
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I'm not sore honest...
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Use the rejected design from ST:ID:
http://www.thetrekcollective.com/2013/11/into-darkness-almost-bird-of-prey.html
And while I think JJ Abrams' team were mental not to have used this, an upsized version of the JJ-verse BoP would also do well as a new generation ship.
I would *like* to think that the BoP is being held off in order to give the Mat'ha a chance to sell. After all, given a chance, I suspect most KDF players would have jumped straight to the BoP over the less-iconic Raptor.
Technically, the guy was right. It's not that they never made them, they just didn't have them available where it would have made sense to have them in the films.
The TWOK scene involving the K'tingas was not new footage. It was (like most of the fx shots early in TWOK) recycled from TMP as a cost saving measure.
For trek 4* and 5 the TMP k'tinga models were being used in the development of TNG, so were unavailable for that period.
IIRC the trek 6 model was a heavily modified TMP k'tinga which they got back from the TNG production crew. I don't think it was ever used again because it was so heavily redressed to be "Qo'nos 1".
From generations onwards CGI was being used a lot more and I don't think they made a CGI model of the k'tinga until '99 or something? After that no trek movie featured k'tingas, though jjtrek 1 did feature it's own KDF BC design that was along the lines of the D7/K'tinga.
*I know, 1985-1986 while TNG didn't start until '87 or so but TNG had been in the works for several years before it made its premi
I dont get why they not made a new BoP for KDF its the only ship i really wonted and its the only thing ill ever spend cash on to get.
Let's face it, the BoP doesn't have any hull strength to sacrifice.
Overall it makes perfect sense to use a more modern and capable platform such as the vorcha for intel.
I am far more upset at the quest/story than the ships because they will FIX the ship problem (eventually, though it might take a year or more).
The story is all wrong ... kdf should ally with the vards not the wimpy whiners. And really ... all the dialog is "let me help you, I am mr friendly the do-gooder from the KDF here to save the freaking day". WHAAA????
Only thing good about it is the vard as an enemy put up a half decent fight.