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Seems to me that the current meta is heading down a path of teams being perma disabled. Be it the Benthan Cruiser trait that seems to ignore disable resists or the new intel ability Electromagnetic Pulse Probe. Is this what it's coming to? The queues are nearly always empty, save for the lone enthusiast that seems to have latent masochistic tendencies.
Your opinion? Is it a good thing that the new intel ships can have the same amount of CC as the SCIs of old? Can Cryptic even do anything at this point to rectify what they have caused?
Your opinion? Is it a good thing that the new intel ships can have the same amount of CC as the SCIs of old? Can Cryptic even do anything at this point to rectify what they have caused?
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Vin Naftero@playhard88 - FED Sciencie
K'tan@playhard88 - KDF Tactical
Argento@playhard88 - RRF Tactical (FED)
Just saying you guys aren't still trying to pvp in your Dino ships are you ? lol
Weren't you the one telling everybody that there's no point in ever flying another ship but the Wells. With its 2min cd reducing self-repair?
Can't say I recall saying that exactly... it is one of the few viable t5u though.........
I was also joking. lol
Yes game is now full of a ton of intel disables so if your not premading with guys that have lots of Intel team to share or carrying your own.. I agree its going to be unplayable.
I would have to say more. And more effective.
And as a plus, it can have it all at system cool down.
Take THAT and T5U it!!!
The only funny bit is that you left out some of the better ones. Well not sure if it's actually funny or not.:rolleyes:
Annnnnd...doesn't Intel Team only remove the Gather Intell exposes that only feature zero disables?
I stll find it funny that there's a T6 Lockbox ship that came out at the same time as the other T6 ships.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Which would be?
Yeah, i feel that until the fleet versions of these are resleased this divide will persist. Not only because of all the traits, but also because of the mentioned abilities.
Also, when and who are you playing against? The queues are always empty for me.
Why are you spreading misinformation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTTom_t3OeM#t=1136
Mix in gravity well and disable engines = can't run from ionic turbulence.
So I imagine over the next few days everyone will be running disable ships and t5u ships will be useless against t6 ships in pvp.
Viral Burst and Ionic Turbulence. Good times.
every once and a wile there are people on. fleet versions wont really bring anything to the table but slightly higher stats, and 1 more consoles. most of the matches ive gotten were against mostly pretty terrible players, but even the good ones fell VERY quickly. 3 DHC SS+ neutronic spread 3 wile in an ionic cloud is a death sentence on ANYTHING when timed just right.
Hm. not so sure. I bought the Faeht and played with Intel abilities for a good while. They don't seem game breaking to me. Ships like Wells, Tempest, Xindi, Mobius, Hunter etc. still pose a good threat if flew correctly.
Oook I admit the Plasma Lance crits for 90k raw. But hey, still no match for a Scimitar's brutal firepower.
It will make the ships more available and at a lower price point too. At least if it doesn't require a T6 shipyard ...
tier 6 fleet ships will all take 5 or maybe even 6 fleet mods probably. and they are being held back because the next season will introduce some new fleet holding in the delta quadrant of some kind, and all the fleet tier 6 ships will be locked behind it. this kind of thing is getting way to predictable.
in terms of overwhelming power, thats probably the weakest of the tier 6. like all warbirds, its not a scraper, best if you built to utilize the EBC or intel vape with it. the intel cruisers are the real monsters, with their AtB friendly setup and low opportunity cost for slotting up to 4 intel skills.
As for EMP probe, that does literally nothing. I've got hit by it so many times, PvE and PvP and it does nothing. Drains my shields maybe by 100hp and when I actually sit still and let it hit me directly it disables me for all of 2 sec, big deal. More importantly thats also something thats really easy to get away from.
The only Intel powers that are useful are the gather intel powers. However those take 15 sec of being within 10km to take effect and they can only be used on one person at a time.
Anyone want to give me a Temporal Heavy Dreadnought pack? I'll be your friend
thats not true. Tactical Team/Eng Team/Sci Team/Hazzards clean the debuffs from the inteligence bridge officer abilities, the only ones that are only clean by intel team are those from the gather inteligence of the intel ships.
Vin Naftero@playhard88 - FED Sciencie
K'tan@playhard88 - KDF Tactical
Argento@playhard88 - RRF Tactical (FED)
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I am there waiting on some form of vgpvp match top start up although suppose I could just as well try some vpvp space since I don't have to regrind my life away.
Guardian cruiser isn't AtB friendly at all honestly. no double AtB1 if you want to use an Intel power. Qib seems good (still hasn't got the Avenger's punch to me in the current state), Eclipse is a beam boat, same story as the Avenger. (I bet people won't see that I'm a dual heavy cannons guy lol). Matha has the hitting power but it's slow. Easily owned by a Contortrix.
Dauntless is... uh... nothing. Scryer a good partigen platform, but Vesta line is still the top dog, namely because of sensor analysis, hangar, aux cannons, set, universals.
Phantom, heh I'm better not talking about it, just because of sheer uglyness and Defiant's plague. Tempest eats it for breakfast with the double ltmdrs.
Faeht was the only one intriguing me, that's why I bought it. Gave it to my romulan sci as well, can do some nasty businesses with EBC.
making a list with those who use it in pvp for future lols
Well, they've done that with EMP probe, but yeah it'd be nice if they did it with a whole load of stuff.
Daizen - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Selia - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
The eclipse lets you have:
- a2b perma cycle
- always power to shields 3.
- HE on global.
- intel powers basically on global.
Intel powers take up the slack since you only trade the ensign, lt com and com engineering slots and the ensign and lt science slots for them. Compared to the powers available in those slot,s the intel powers are flat out better.
Release safetys + surgical strikes nets you a whopper of burst damage (abuse with crit severity weapons...) and since you only had to trade worthless engineering slots for them, you get to eat yoru tac cake to. LTcom tac is enough for any combination of attack patterns and torpedo/energy weapon skills. Although i clearly tend towards beta 2, spread 2 and tac team.
I think that surgical strikes is just too good to pass usage of it up for faw or bo.
Although bo3 with safetys released can also net you a massive hit (again, use a crit sev weapon...).
The intel powers offer enough in terms of debuffing and lockdown to make a non acc weapon viable to use.
The Guardian cruiser is a joke. Why you would buy that i do not know.
The phantom and scryer suffer the MASSIVE drawbacks of trading up your best tac or sci slots for intel powers.
I think you are shooting yourself in the foot with these, but some niche builds are possible, mostly aiming at extended disable/lockdown cycles for the scyrer and vaping for the phatom.
I still consider the eclipse king though. You get your cake and eat it too.
Eclipse is beam boat king, but that's about it. 7/8 beams versus Avenger's 5 Dual Heavies. Can't do as much damage even with override and surgical.
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