Meh. Opening our mouths and expressing our views to these devs is futile. Believing it to be worthwhile (when they've proven otherwise an uncountable number of times) is ignorant and self deceptive.
Tell that to PWE....oh, right. They aren't listening.
Forgive me but...what locked threads? As of this morning? Link one and I'll believe it.
'Forgive me but...what locked threads? As of this morning? Link one and I'll believe it.'
Not sure if you were being funny or not...but either way you can search the forum yourself next time, or just click 'Next Page' and look for the authors name.
EDIT: I apologize, I did not take into consideration that morning for you me may be different, timezones and sleep habits things like that. So the above actions have take place since I left last night and returned "my" morning time.
Its the attitude towards its patrons greed is universal just ask any ferengi however if you look at the way most chinese companies treat their patrons its with disdaine and disregard for them.
If you have had any dealing with the chinese business model you will find they treat their patrons with complete contempt.
I say no because by speaking out here we save innocent new players hundreds and even thousands of dollars they could be wasting on this lackluster poorly executed grindfest that STO has become. I've even seen a thread entitled "thank you for saving me 125$!" because someone had the sense to read the forums before making a purchase!
Not sure if you were being funny or not...but either way you can search the forum yourself next time, or just click 'Next Page' and look for the authors name.
EDIT: I apologize, I did not take into consideration that morning for you me may be different, timezones and sleep habits things like that. So the above actions have take place since I left last night and returned "my" morning time.
Two of my threads created in the last week have been locked because they were not singing the praises of Cryptic.. rather calling them out on their bull****.
Im surprised to learn that cryptic/PWE is a Chinese company considering how culturally iconic star trek is in the united states. I would have thought some american company would buy the license to the mmo.
Its like having a company in shanghai make zippos lol
don't be surprised, because he's lying out his TRIBBLE
both cryptic AND PWE are american companies, and both have their headquarters in california
however, PWE is a subsidary company of PWI, and that one is a chinese company
so cryptic/PWE are owned by a chinese company, but they are not chinese companies themselves
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Two of my threads created in the last week have been locked because they were not singing the praises of Cryptic.. rather calling them out on their bull****.
The list surprises me. I would think there would be more merged/moved threads in there, too. I guess half assing it is better than doing nothing, right?
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if youve ever had any dealing with a business from china youd see the same treatment of their patrons as cryptic is doing to us.
and from my understanding when a chinese business firm buys a company they expect that company to adhere to their ways of business.
and before my health took a TRIBBLE i used to have alot of business dealings with a few chinese businesses and the they treat their patrons with complete contempt.
They want the patrons moneys but could not care in the slightest whether the patron is happy or not with their product because the patron is expected to buy regardless.
So seeing cryptic having contempt for us players isnt shocking since their parent company is a chinese business .
i know confusing i agree its backwards thinking and these businesses dont even care that what works in china doesnt work anywhere else your a patron and expected to buy regardless of your happiness or disgust.
NOPE. A good programmer can go through feedback and figure out what is most likely a bug and what is idle banter. My father was a software programmer--he would tell me key words that he'd look for to identify reports of pathing errors and whatnot. It's part of the job, and the devs here don't have my pity. The fact that they made their test server public SHOULD obligate them to use critical thinking and all those compurety analytical skills, but PWE isn't all that concerned. They just throw something together and assume it's all peachy, then blame us for complaining when something went wrong on their end.
Please, try another one. This one didn't wrok.
As a programmer with 30 years experience.... I COMPLETELY AGREE!. A decent programmer can find a bug in a UI with a paragraph or two from a user. When users post over 200 times giving character names, ships and details of the same UI bug(space tray rearranged after ground mission)..it's extremely difficult to see how it isn't fixed yet. This one bug, more than anything else has killed the game for me, it's the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. Who wants to spend 5 minutes every time you transition from ground to space to fix your tray to have it completely trashed again the next time.
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1) Not sure how long the OP has been around but the game as a whole has gotten a lot better since it first came out.
BETA lifer pre-order. I can actually say I've seen it all when it comes to this game.
2) I've done programming before and I think the bugs aren't really the game developers fault. I blame it on management giving them deadlines and prioritizing new content over fixes. So when people complain to the dev's about how they want things, they probably don't have much say in the matter. I could be wrong but that's probably how it works.
My issue isn't that they aren't doing it the way I want it. I feel like the massive number of old ignored bugs take away from the experience. We've been reporting them since day one and the majority are still there. I wonder why the year-long drought wasn't used to fix existing problems with the game. There were plenty around before PWE took over. And it isn't like they didn't have enough time to figure out what to do about them. Deadlines might be a part of it but the fact that bug fixing appears to not even be included in the timeframes given disturbs me.
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Yeah I agree about the bugs. It seems like there's a bunch that come out with the new content, then they fix the essential ones but sweep the rest under the rug that's already bulging from dead/ignored old bugs. My comment was more aimed at the dozens of new content bugs that get fixed after a few weeks.
In my opinion, there have been significant improvements and here are some examples:
Large scale: Adding the foundry
Medium scale: Changing Drozana, ESD, and other maps from compartmentalized default maps to what they are now.
Small scale: Changing the Borg's appearance from high-tech PJ's to a cyber-skeleton look.
Maybe I'm complacent or am thinking too small but what would be improvements that would count or what kind of improvements would people be looking for to say the game has made significant positive changes? (Ground vehicles ect.)
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'Forgive me but...what locked threads? As of this morning? Link one and I'll believe it.'
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1271681&page=20
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1272171
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1272271&page=2
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1271791&page=7
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1271951&page=3
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1272241
Not sure if you were being funny or not...but either way you can search the forum yourself next time, or just click 'Next Page' and look for the authors name.
EDIT: I apologize, I did not take into consideration that morning for you me may be different, timezones and sleep habits things like that. So the above actions have take place since I left last night and returned "my" morning time.
Would you recommend STO to a friend?
Are we talking about PWE still or EA???
EA is a life sucking vampire
Cryptic is owned by PWE which means cryptic is a chinese company and thus ran by PWEs business model.
And if youve ever had any dealing with chinese business's youd understand how much contempt they have for their patrons.
and from what i see from cryptic they are treating their patron with the same contempt as their parent company.
Still not seeing the difference between the two?
Two of my threads created in the last week have been locked because they were not singing the praises of Cryptic.. rather calling them out on their bull****.
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both cryptic AND PWE are american companies, and both have their headquarters in california
however, PWE is a subsidary company of PWI, and that one is a chinese company
so cryptic/PWE are owned by a chinese company, but they are not chinese companies themselves
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
The list surprises me. I would think there would be more merged/moved threads in there, too. I guess half assing it is better than doing nothing, right?
lol NOOOO your missing my point
if youve ever had any dealing with a business from china youd see the same treatment of their patrons as cryptic is doing to us.
and from my understanding when a chinese business firm buys a company they expect that company to adhere to their ways of business.
and before my health took a TRIBBLE i used to have alot of business dealings with a few chinese businesses and the they treat their patrons with complete contempt.
They want the patrons moneys but could not care in the slightest whether the patron is happy or not with their product because the patron is expected to buy regardless.
So seeing cryptic having contempt for us players isnt shocking since their parent company is a chinese business .
i know confusing i agree its backwards thinking and these businesses dont even care that what works in china doesnt work anywhere else your a patron and expected to buy regardless of your happiness or disgust.
As a programmer with 30 years experience.... I COMPLETELY AGREE!. A decent programmer can find a bug in a UI with a paragraph or two from a user. When users post over 200 times giving character names, ships and details of the same UI bug(space tray rearranged after ground mission)..it's extremely difficult to see how it isn't fixed yet. This one bug, more than anything else has killed the game for me, it's the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. Who wants to spend 5 minutes every time you transition from ground to space to fix your tray to have it completely trashed again the next time.
Yeah I agree about the bugs. It seems like there's a bunch that come out with the new content, then they fix the essential ones but sweep the rest under the rug that's already bulging from dead/ignored old bugs. My comment was more aimed at the dozens of new content bugs that get fixed after a few weeks.
In my opinion, there have been significant improvements and here are some examples:
Large scale: Adding the foundry
Medium scale: Changing Drozana, ESD, and other maps from compartmentalized default maps to what they are now.
Small scale: Changing the Borg's appearance from high-tech PJ's to a cyber-skeleton look.
Maybe I'm complacent or am thinking too small but what would be improvements that would count or what kind of improvements would people be looking for to say the game has made significant positive changes? (Ground vehicles ect.)