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daqhegh
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How about we all stop telling the devs what we think? They aren't interested in the quality of the game experience. We should also stop providing constructive feedback because NO ONE in power over this game is listening.
The above goes double for Tribble -- we waste our time testing if they refuse to fix the bugs we point out. So stop logging into Tribble, posting on the Tribble forum, and doing anything that would otherwise make the game better by our player standards.
We should also stop telling the mods/devs/overlords how to do their jobs. Some are out for reasons, others are just ignoring us. The lack of general (and basic) communication is not new to us. PWE despises its customers with a passion, even when they actually do spend money. How about we back off and let the people in charge run the place as they see fit?
Most importantly, let's STOP GETTING OUR HOPES UP. This game as a whole will never get better. Sure, some of the story bits are nice and some missions are more fun than others. I admit this game has its moments. But everything in this forum is posted in the hope that someone involved with game development will take it (and US) seriously. It simply isn't going to happen. So please, stop assuming it can get better. We've all been saying that since the year-long content drought. We're still waiting.
All you have to do is look at the history of PWE. They don't believe in communication or customer service. I say we stop discussing these concepts and stick to actual in-game topics, like missions, characters, story arcs, and whatnot. We want changes to be implemented. PWE doesn't agree with these changes. IT ISN'T OUR CHOICE AND WE HAVE NO INFLUENCE OVER THEIR DECISIONS.
All this hopemongering simply has to stop.
The above goes double for Tribble -- we waste our time testing if they refuse to fix the bugs we point out. So stop logging into Tribble, posting on the Tribble forum, and doing anything that would otherwise make the game better by our player standards.
We should also stop telling the mods/devs/overlords how to do their jobs. Some are out for reasons, others are just ignoring us. The lack of general (and basic) communication is not new to us. PWE despises its customers with a passion, even when they actually do spend money. How about we back off and let the people in charge run the place as they see fit?
Most importantly, let's STOP GETTING OUR HOPES UP. This game as a whole will never get better. Sure, some of the story bits are nice and some missions are more fun than others. I admit this game has its moments. But everything in this forum is posted in the hope that someone involved with game development will take it (and US) seriously. It simply isn't going to happen. So please, stop assuming it can get better. We've all been saying that since the year-long content drought. We're still waiting.
All you have to do is look at the history of PWE. They don't believe in communication or customer service. I say we stop discussing these concepts and stick to actual in-game topics, like missions, characters, story arcs, and whatnot. We want changes to be implemented. PWE doesn't agree with these changes. IT ISN'T OUR CHOICE AND WE HAVE NO INFLUENCE OVER THEIR DECISIONS.
All this hopemongering simply has to stop.
My Old Blog about things that could and should have been added when I wrote it. Not sure what I want to do with it now. I'll just keep it available now that most of it is outdated.
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Pretty good idea.
I don't tell devs what I thinik. I put what I think out to the general audience for whomever to read. People (dev or anyone else) can take it, or they can leave it. I just continue to do that which I consider fun and weight the costs of participation and play at a comforting level with the overall entertainment value I get from it. If I find the costs outpace my perceived entertainment enjoyment gain, then I take my money elsewhere to something more entertaining.
That falls under the "not up to us" category. Think about it.
no it be a ghost town
system Lord Baal is dead
*watches a tumbleweed roll by*
Yup now wheres the dusty saloon i need some 200 year old rot gut
NOPE. A good programmer can go through feedback and figure out what is most likely a bug and what is idle banter. My father was a software programmer--he would tell me key words that he'd look for to identify reports of pathing errors and whatnot. It's part of the job, and the devs here don't have my pity. The fact that they made their test server public SHOULD obligate them to use critical thinking and all those compurety analytical skills, but PWE isn't all that concerned. They just throw something together and assume it's all peachy, then blame us for complaining when something went wrong on their end.
Please, try another one. This one didn't wrok.
If i had seen the forum the way it is now a few months ago when i started playing I would not have played it as much as I have.
Im still at it only because its star trek and the space battles are fun in small doses. I feel 50 bucks well spent there. On to another 50 buck game for me now.
Yep.
Also true. And even though it's a hard fight and it seems hopeless, most times you do get to have some of the things the way you think they should be. You may have to ask for 100 to get 1, but you CAN get 1.
That wasn't always the case.
Off topic, is your sig...um, excited?
That's my mindset. It may go nowhere but I will at least be able to cross "my inaction" off the list of reasons as things go south.
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1) Not sure how long the OP has been around but the game as a whole has gotten a lot better since it first came out.
2) I've done programming before and I think the bugs aren't really the game developers fault. I blame it on management giving them deadlines and prioritizing new content over fixes. So when people complain to the dev's about how they want things, they probably don't have much say in the matter. I could be wrong but that's probably how it works.
Another thing people need to stop thinking of cryptic as an american company it is not its a chinese company now and is acting like it.
oh yeah all of the above +1
HAhaha the sword hilt is so strategically placed isn't it. Its from an American-Japanese cartoon.
Im surprised to learn that cryptic/PWE is a Chinese company considering how culturally iconic star trek is in the united states. I would have thought some american company would buy the license to the mmo.
Its like having a company in shanghai make zippos lol
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Ah, what you mean when you're saying they learn here what the game is like, you are saying they will see the same things over and over and over and over..... ?
Right now i think this is true.
How is it acting Chinese, people keep calling them greedy, last i checked greed was pretty American
Greed is pretty human, isn't it?
In the immortal words of Gordon Geko http://youtu.be/R8y6DJAeolo
yes it is!!!!!
system Lord Baal is dead
There is a difference ? Ok ok ... the Chinese company actually might have some money ... :P
'IT ISN'T OUR CHOICE AND WE HAVE NO INFLUENCE OVER THEIR DECISIONS.'
OP, I disagree with your statement, and suggesting that things will get better if we just keep our mouths close is...ignorant.
Unless you can point to any disagreement between 2 groups of people that has be resolved by not talking about it. You'll get silence which may indeed resemble peace, but it's not!
I'm not implying this is a war because it's not. But to suggest to dedicated, loyal and emotionally involved people that if they just shut their mouths and play everything will be peachy again is just wrong. Cryptic and all the Cryptic Defenders would like you to believe that you don't matter, you're just a number and there's another behind you, but there's no line...the game's not "FULL", so where is the person who is waiting to take my place? I keep looking behind me I don't see him/her.
Edit: Just look around at the locked the threads this morning, I'm sorry but I think discussing the issues is having exactly the intended affect and Cryptic/PWE doesn't like it...it hurts.
Would you recommend STO to a friend?
Its the attitude towards its patrons greed is universal just ask any ferengi however if you look at the way most chinese companies treat their patrons its with disdaine and disregard for them.
If you have had any dealing with the chinese business model you will find they treat their patrons with complete contempt.
Tell that to PWE....oh, right. They aren't listening.
Forgive me but...what locked threads? As of this morning? Link one and I'll believe it.