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Hierarcy BOFF Issues (Clothing and Republic Addition)

chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
edited October 2014 in PC Gameplay Bug Reports
First off, really loving the Hierarchy BOFF. I like his trait set, and it's a great way to get a high-level Intel BOFF quickly.

I ran into two issues with him, though.

1) As mentioned here, the BOFF does not faction-align properly. I play a Fed-Rom, and did get the Hierarchy BOFF as a Federation officer. But I'm wondering if there should be a Republic version available, specifically so I can use Republic clothing options on him? I figure if he's joining my crew, I'd spare him the troubles of having to get a commission in Starfleet first! ;)

2) Clothing options that expose the arms, or lower-cut tops that show the chest, show that the BOFF's model is not complete. Only the head and top of neck are properly on the model, but any clothing that shows other parts of the body result in invisible arms, chest, etc.
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  • borticuscrypticborticuscryptic Member Posts: 2,478 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2014
    This bridge officer was not intended to be customizable. We're still working out the details on how best to address this.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This bridge officer was not intended to be customizable. We're still working out the details on how best to address this.

    If you end up leaving it could you at least add his normal outfit in (pretty sure its not there but could be wrong.) if someone changes it then you can get him to wear his hirarcy outfit again.
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This bridge officer was not intended to be customizable. We're still working out the details on how best to address this.
    What?!? Nooo! ;_;
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  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This bridge officer was not intended to be customizable. We're still working out the details on how best to address this.

    Aw, oh well. He's off my ship then. I'm a fan of having customizable BOFFs, so I'll stick with the Intel officers you can buy from BOFF vendors.

    Thanks for the very speedy reply!
  • trelane87trelane87 Member Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This bridge officer was not intended to be customizable. We're still working out the details on how best to address this.

    I had a feeling this was the case which is why I customized mine as soon as I got it :P

    I personally loathe the uncustomizable boffs, they stick out like sore thumbs on my bridge. I don't use my Voth boff for this reason. I say make his outfit customizable at least, I could care less about his face. Same with the current uncustomizable boffs, if could at least change their outfits I'd be happy (minus the Breen, he's stuck with that suit but additional parts and color options would be cool). Heck I'd be willing to pay to be able to customize them :D
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Welp, I've got mine in uniform, and that's how he's going to remain.
  • sanokskyratsanokskyrat Member Posts: 479 Media Corps
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This bridge officer was not intended to be customizable. We're still working out the details on how best to address this.

    Grrrr. What else is meant to be on the list? Here i thought the Human customization for the KDF reward was by design after years of asking. Never seems fair that the KDF ones had no opinions but the Feds got them all.

    You know people like to customization there BOFF's right makes them feel like their's and closer to the game right? Give us more opinions . Dont take them away!
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  • walshicuswalshicus Member Posts: 1,314 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This bridge officer was not intended to be customizable. We're still working out the details on how best to address this.

    Keep it customisable! Make *all* the BOFFs customisable; Reman, Breen, Jem Hadar.
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  • drreverenddrreverend Member Posts: 459 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This bridge officer was not intended to be customizable. We're still working out the details on how best to address this.

    I'd rather it be customizable and not have access to the extra Hierarchy costume parts than have the Hierarchy costume and not be able to customize the Hierarchy boff. We've been asking to be able to customize our special boffs like Nelen Exil, the Reman boff, the Jem'hadar, and the Breen for years. It's better that we can customize and outfit them so they fit in with our crew.

    And because I like my Starfleet uniformed potato-man.
  • sthraxpwesthraxpwe Member Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This bridge officer was not intended to be customizable. We're still working out the details on how best to address this.

    Well, that's a bummer... I'm going to miss seeing his short, overly pudgy body stuffed into the Omega Harvester armor.
  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This bridge officer was not intended to be customizable. We're still working out the details on how best to address this.

    That is extremely disappointing.
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  • druhindruhin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    My guess is, they don't want these special Bridge Officers customizable, so they leave open the chance of milking players for more cash somewhere down the road. Just look at the Reman Bridge Officer (uncustomizable). You want custom Bridge Officers? Go buy the Reman unlock.

    Bridge Officers who are non-customizable rank very low on my list of "want". I'd rather have a full crew of fully-customizable Bridge Officers, rather than these special on-off officers.

    And if the Hierarchy Boff wasn't meant to be customizable, why let the expansion out in the public with such an egregious oversight? Kinda like your Tau Dewa "exploit" oversight, I reckon?
  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Bugs happen. That's the nature of coding. Cryptic was very forthcoming from day 1 that they would be monitoring developments in the game, making tweaks and re-balancing as needed, and fixing any post-launch bugs that popped up.

    This is one of them.

    Would I rather the Hierarchy BOFF is customizable? Yes. But if it wasn't originally intended to be so, then I have no problem with the Devs working to fix it.
  • druhindruhin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    chipg7 wrote: »
    Would I rather the Hierarchy BOFF is customizable? Yes. But if it wasn't originally intended to be so, then I have no problem with the Devs working to fix it.

    Yeah, because fixing a broken Bridge Officer ranks at the very TOP of things that need to be fixed?
  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    If it's a fix that can be thrown into a patch that fixes some bigger issues, sure it makes sense. It probably doesn't warrant an emergency patch, no, but it'll likely be one of the many 'general fixes' that make it into the weekly patch.
  • darkjeffdarkjeff Member Posts: 2,590 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This bridge officer was not intended to be customizable. We're still working out the details on how best to address this.

    The best way to address this is twofold:

    1. Leave Mr. Potatohead alone. He's in a proper 2410 Starfleet uniform with the rest of my crew.
    2. Break all the other bridge officers that were not intended to be customizable.

    Thank you.
  • arrmateysarrmateys Member Posts: 466 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    it's sad that they weren't supposed to be editable. i mean, look at this:

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62600417/potatofleet.png

    isn't it cool when we can do things like this? all this needs is to make the uniform he normally wears be selectable by boffs with race = hierarchy, and some of the sliders to have more rigid limits so absurd values aren't possible, and everyone's happy.

    the un-editable boffs are at most a novelty thing that lasts for a few hours/days, then they get thrown into a corner of the ship or recycled out the airlock because of how useless they are.

    it'd be much more interesting to see various combinations of clothes, heights and colors than every single person having an identical bridge officer. would make places like new romulus, kobali prime or nimbus more interesting.
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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This bridge officer was not intended to be customizable. We're still working out the details on how best to address this.

    Can you let us know WHY you don't want us to be able to customize the special boffs?

    Either way, glad to hear you're fixing this guy, I'm holding off on earning one wit my kdf characters but I very much enjoy the special boffs but like everyone else, i feel it would be an early Christmas to get to customize them.
  • graysockgraysock Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Oh boy.. next thing they say talaxian boff also is not customizable.
  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    No. You leave my potato man alone, you hear me? Non-customizable boffs is one of my rage points in this game. I can't make these guys fit in with the rest of my crew. Being able to put my potato man in a uniform was great. He looks like a part of my crew. I thought you guys had finally come to your senses about boff customization. I guess not, and that disappoints me greatly.

    So you leave my potato man alone and you go and break every other non-customizable boff so that I can put them into uniforms.
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  • soundwisdomsoundwisdom Member Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This bridge officer was not intended to be customizable. We're still working out the details on how best to address this.

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  • dw1178dw1178 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I'm sorry, but if they want to be apart of my crew, they are going to wear the uniform.
  • walligigwalligig Member Posts: 308 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Community: We finally got a special bridge officer we can customize, thank you Cryptic. You gave us something we wanted.

    Cryptic: We Did!!? No! That's a bug. we must fix!!

    Pretty much how I read the first 2 post.

    Meh joking aside he did say "We looking for the best way to address this." Not "We are going to make him Uncostumizable". So who knows.
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    edited October 2014
    walshicus wrote: »
    Keep it customisable! Make *all* the BOFFs customisable; Reman, Breen, Jem Hadar.

    If this is what happens when a non-customizable BOff lets us into the customization options, I'd say enable customization on the Reman and Breen and embassy Romulans.

    Then if people want the "out of the box" costume back, implement a "reset costume to defaults" button next to the Customize button at the tailor which resets costume back to out of package conditions.

    I'd be fine with a choice between Hierarchy non-customizable appearance and customizable appearance with no Hierarchy parts used.

    Same for Reman, Embassy, etc.
  • captainkoltarcaptainkoltar Member Posts: 939 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Well if he reverts to being non customisable, he's off my crew, despite how much I like him. This non customisable BOFF stuff really has to stop. I command a Starfleet ship. My crew wear Starfleet uniforms. If they can't, then they aren't on my crew. Simple, really.

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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This bridge officer was not intended to be customizable. We're still working out the details on how best to address this.

    One aspect of this expansion you got right...was a mistake?

    Here's what you're going to do. You're going to leave this officer customizable and fix the tailor issues it has. Because pretty much ANYTHING that is not this will make people upset.

    If you want to make people more happy, you'll also add Hierarchy costume elements as an unlock.

    And if you want people to be insanely happy, you're going to open customization for every other non-customizable Boff.
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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    hypl wrote: »
    One aspect of this expansion you got right...was a mistake?

    Here's what you're going to do. You're going to leave this officer customizable and fix the tailor issues it has. Because pretty much ANYTHING that is not this will make people upset.

    If you want to make people more happy, you'll also add Hierarchy costume elements as an unlock.

    And if you want people to be insanely happy, you're going to open customization for every other non-customizable Boff.

    I'm fairly sure that after yesterday's Tau Dewa/Skill Points nerfbat swing, it's obvious that "making people happy" is not on the agenda.

    To Cryptic/Borticus; Just no. Fix it properly by adding the Heirarchy costume, and leave it at that. And fix the other non-customisable Boffs while you're at it. Even Borg drones have variety, yet players of this game can't?
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  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    OK, I think a Moderator can close this thread now. This is descending into yet another doom thread...

    Thanks again borticuscryptic for the very quick response, and please keep us posted on what's going to happen with the Hierarchy BOFF once a fix is implemented.
  • grimlyonegrimlyone Member Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This bridge officer was not intended to be customizable. We're still working out the details on how best to address this.


    Well, the best way of addressing it, is not addressing it at all.

    It's a good thing this boff is customizable, and I honestly can't see why he shouldn't. His a bridge officer, most bridge officers, even the blighted Towan Kev is customisable to a degree.
    The ones that aren't - should be.

    If you want us to feel that our ship, is our personal unique ship with our personal crew, there's no better way of doing that in a game like this, than allowing us to customise our officers. Allowing us to spend time designing their uniforms, getting the looks just as we want them.

    I honestly, can't see any, I repeat, any issues with this boff being customisable. And I find it really sad that You do.
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  • kintotechkintotech Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I just want his faction fixed so he's actually a KDF officer for KDF characters :\ That's probably really TRIBBLE things up too.
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