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Scryer ISV

thumpyechothumpyecho Member Posts: 298 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
...so uh, anyone else notice this....

Sci Ship juxtapose the Scryer ISV.....
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  • capnmanxcapnmanx Member Posts: 1,452 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    A few people, yeah. Cryptic inherited all of Perpetual's old game assets when they got the licence. I guess they kept them around as inspiration.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Why pay for a new ship design when you can have a 'new to us' ship design? ;)

    Personally, I thing the ring design is stupid looking. Waste of space. More Star Wars than Star Trek, imo.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    dracounguis wrote: »
    Why pay for a new ship design when you can have a 'new to us' ship design? ;)

    Personally, I thing the ring design is stupid looking. Waste of space. More Star Wars than Star Trek, imo.

    You can argue that maybe it is aeshteticaly more SW than ST, but ... Waste of Spac is certainly something that happens in Star Trek a lot. D'Deridex Warbirds with their weird dual wings and the giant hole i nthe middle?
    Federation ships with the seperated saucer, engineering and nacelles? Even if you can reason that the nacelles produce harmful radiation and thus need to be put at distance from the living areas, why the extra engineering section?
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  • jackal1701apwjackal1701apw Member Posts: 669 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    The Vengence from JJ trek had a similar space in the saucer.

    Personally I think the sci ship is the best looking of the lot - I just HATE the skins.
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  • knockyknocky Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Those ships....hidious.

    Those prices...laughable.

    PWE's intention, make the Fed ships so butt-ugly they will force us into the other factions.
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  • primchanprimchan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    You can argue that maybe it is aeshteticaly more SW than ST, but ... Waste of Spac is certainly something that happens in Star Trek a lot. D'Deridex Warbirds with their weird dual wings and the giant hole i nthe middle?
    Federation ships with the seperated saucer, engineering and nacelles? Even if you can reason that the nacelles produce harmful radiation and thus need to be put at distance from the living areas, why the extra engineering section?

    I'm late to the party here, but the reason for the "waste of space" in the center of the D'Deridex is explained in detail here if anyone is interested: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/D%27deridex_class_model
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jackal1701apw wrote: »
    The Vengence from JJ trek had a similar space in the saucer.

    Personally I think the sci ship is the best looking of the lot - I just HATE the skins.

    you know they are adding fed skins to them as well?
  • orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The fed Intel ships look quite good, as long as you don't think of them as fed ships.
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  • crypticquackcrypticquack Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    While the John Eaves concept has slight similarities, it was not used as inspiration.

    And yes, you can use your other ship hull materials on the intel ships!
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  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    crypticquack wrote: »
    While the John Eaves concept has slight similarities, it was not used as inspiration.

    And yes, you can use your other ship hull materials on the intel ships!

    I believe you can also fill the gaps in the ring, correct?
    You're right. The work here is very important.
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  • crypticquackcrypticquack Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jeffel82 wrote: »
    I believe you can also fill the gaps in the ring, correct?

    You sure can. The intel ships share a very similar design language so we transplated all of the nacelles from each ship onto the other Fed intel ships, as well as added a few smaller customization options, like filling in the saucer ring, or covering the sensors.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    crypticquack wrote: »
    While the John Eaves concept has slight similarities, it was not used as inspiration.

    And yes, you can use your other ship hull materials on the intel ships!

    I tried to believe this...

    I just could not... I tried... I really did...
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    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • illcadiaillcadia Member Posts: 1,412 Bug Hunter
    edited October 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    I tried to believe this...

    I just could not... I tried... I really did...

    The chick who wrote the Hunger Games had never heard of Battle Royale.
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    I tried to believe this...

    I just could not... I tried... I really did...
    Yes, coincidences do indeed exist.
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  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,333 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    crypticquack wrote: »
    You sure can. The intel ships share a very similar design language so we transplated all of the nacelles from each ship onto the other Fed intel ships, as well as added a few smaller customization options, like filling in the saucer ring, or covering the sensors.

    Well I at least think you guys did a good job on these new ships.
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  • svindal777svindal777 Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    This ships design has grown on me. I'm going to change my sci toons name to Homer and name the ship USS Donut Sprinkles.
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  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    illcadia wrote: »
    The chick who wrote the Hunger Games had never heard of Battle Royale.
    jk rowlings had supposedly never heard of the book 'larry potter and his best friend lily" or the author's other book 'the legend of rah and the muggles.' that's what a court said, anyway, even though larry potter looks exactly like harry.
  • swamarianswamarian Member Posts: 1,506 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    illcadia wrote: »
    The chick who wrote the Hunger Games had never heard of Battle Royale.

    J. K. Rowling had never heard of Neal Gaiman's "Books of Magic."
    And when he was asked about it, he said that he could easily believe it.
  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    I tried to believe this...

    I just could not... I tried... I really did...

    Considering that Cryptic owns the Eaves art, and could use it in any way they want to without paying him or giving him credit, what possible motivation could they possibly have for lying about it?
    You're right. The work here is very important.
    tacofangs wrote: »
    ...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
  • crypticquackcrypticquack Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jeffel82 wrote: »
    Considering that Cryptic owns the Eaves art, and could use it in any way they want to without paying him or giving him credit, what possible motivation could they possibly have for lying about it?

    Precisely. If we used it as inspiration, I would say we did. No reason not to.
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jeffel82 wrote: »
    Considering that Cryptic owns the Eaves art, and could use it in any way they want to without paying him or giving him credit, what possible motivation could they possibly have for lying about it?

    it's just Cryptic bashing
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  • davideightdavideight Member Posts: 461 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    but the similarities are to strong to deny it ... i mean, the designer MUSt have seen that ship before ...
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    davideight wrote: »
    but the similarities are to strong to deny it ... i mean, the designer MUSt have seen that ship before ...
    It could simply be subconscious retention. You see something years ago and then forget you saw it, but your subconscious keeps that information locked away. It then has an influence on things you create even though you are not aware of it.
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Similarities happen in entertainment all the time. I am a screenwriter. My writing partner and I were developing an animated TV show for Hulu. Hulu loved our idea and was ready to sign the dotted line...until Netflix aired a commercial for a show that was extremely similar to our idea. The Hulu execs told us if the Netflix show didn't exist they would be making that show.
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  • boogieman624boogieman624 Member Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    crypticquack wrote: »
    You sure can. The intel ships share a very similar design language so we transplated all of the nacelles from each ship onto the other Fed intel ships, as well as added a few smaller customization options, like filling in the saucer ring, or covering the sensors.

    Can We Please Get Some Pieces From The Ships That They Were Designed From. For Example: The Phantom Having Defiant And Tempest Pieces. If You Did This You Might Get More Sales And You Could Say The Intel Ships Are The Most Customize able Ships In STO.
  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited October 2014
    Is It An Option To Capitalize Every Word For Added Impact?

    - jk -

    I'm loving the new ships - all of them. Bought the Operations pack, and can't wait to try out the new content. Not loving the dil costs for upgrades, for early completion of R&D, the lack of pricing information for upgrades...
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    Yes, coincidences do indeed exist.

    No... they don't...
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited October 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    No... they don't...

    The sound of crinkling tinfoil echoes in the distance.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    ddesjardins wrote: »
    The sound of crinkling tinfoil echoes in the distance.

    Not at all... I just think it's naive to believe that everything that happens is random, and that a decision is not the underlying reason for everything that happens...

    It may have been a person, or nature, Conscious or subconscious but a decision has always been made.

    Of cause, you may be able to hear your own tinfoil hat... Can't speak to that.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • admiralkristovadmiralkristov Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Not at all... I just think it's naive to believe that everything that happens is random, and that a decision is not the underlying reason for everything that happens...

    It may have been a person, or nature, Conscious or subconscious but a decision has always been made.

    Of cause, you may be able to hear your own tinfoil hat... Can't speak to that.

    Trying to justify the hate...
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