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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Great, now I will forever be known as the guy who asked drunk one questions to many lol.

    Seriously dude, thanks for all your work in this thread. Your advice has kept pvp fun for me.

    lol, no don't worry i gave up a few seasons ago and didn't bother to say anything.

    if you got a beam boat and an AtB build, you probably already know what your doing. fleet advanced AP are probably the closest thing to an upgrade you will find, that core and omni AP beam should help damage too. though beam boats should be running spire cores in every other case, to further resist energy drain
  • unheard1978unheard1978 Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    hi DDIS

    nice chatting to you tonight.
    here is my torpedo build.
    please can you help I need to make the hull stronger.
    any rep traits that would help ?

    http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=090514_993

    thanks
  • ocp001ocp001 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    For that torpedo boat I would defintely be adding living hull, and biotech patch if you can get them. Techie would also be a good boost to your base heal numbers in addition to the afore mentioned.

    While those three traits are not direct strengthening factors, you get the result you are wanting through indirect hull heal strengthening.
  • ekxibekxib Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    In other thread i began to talk about a build for my Fleet Vo'Quv.

    Someone asked me if the build i pretend go to pvp... and yes... that is my intention (for farmer i go to play alone in other games... no offense)

    Then, i appreciated if the people who play and know pvp can recommend me some changes in my build, here is the link:

    http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=flvoquv_7025

    and here is the link in the forum where i asked:

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1117551

    In advanced thank you for your help:)
  • belhadbelhad Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    So I'm brand new to PVP after being basically exclusively PVE and looking to jumping into a Sciencey role.

    I'm a Rommie Fed and looking for some advice on what ship to look at. I was thinking maybe the Rommie DSD? Would that work as a science specced pvp ship? What sort of build would I be looking at for it?

    I'm just looking for a push in the right direction :)

    Thanks!
  • sharxtremesharxtreme Member Posts: 850 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    belhad wrote: »
    So I'm brand new to PVP after being basically exclusively PVE and looking to jumping into a Sciencey role.

    I'm a Rommie Fed and looking for some advice on what ship to look at. I was thinking maybe the Rommie DSD? Would that work as a science specced pvp ship? What sort of build would I be looking at for it?

    I'm just looking for a push in the right direction :)

    Thanks!

    Unfortunatelly there are not many options for SCI-SCI as a romulan.

    -Dyson - heavy sci attacker
    -R'mor - standard temporal role
    -Tulwar - sci dreadnought
    -Tal-shiar destroyer - great SCI attacker

    Dyson is a good choice, full c-store set setup right is a killer:

    Here is my dyson setup fed side, tac and sci:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5ewZBZbN9c

    also on channel somewhere you can see a bit of my sci Tulwar
  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    i owe this thread a post after all this time


    this thread seemed like a great idea, before there was rep. when you just had the stf sets and you earned them from salvage drops. since then, there has been an itemization, grind, and lockbox ship explosion, not to mention another faction.

    theres to much stuff to run a thread like this anymore, unless you have every bit of it, and have far more time and autism then i have. the itemization explosion hasn't even reached its peek yet, each new rep or box or holding means an across the board update would be needed. its completely untenable.

    so, that's why ive all but ignoring the thread. the information in it is still good, but the builds are a little outdated. it should do new players plenty of good still, but i have no intention to add builds, unless the itemization were to end. but then this would be a dead game so there would be no point lol


    anyone else is welcome to add to it if they like, no harm in that.
    It's a shame, this thread was (is) always a great source of inspiration. TBH i don't care about the newest items and "itemization".

    I don't do PvP (anymore) so maybe my opinion isn't relevant here, but new ideas and unusual builds are what i care about. Like your G-R cannon build for example.
    "...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--" - (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie

    A tale of two Picards
    (also applies to Star Trek in general)
  • swfosterswfoster Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    One of my fleetmates recommended I read your posts for ideas on how to strengthen my eng/fleet excel beam boat. Here's what I have, and what I am working towards. Any advice is appreciated:

    6x Advance Fleet Antiproton Beam [Acc]x2 [Dmg]x2
    Omni-Directional Anitproton Beam [Acc] [Dmg] [Arc]
    Kinetic Cutting Beam [Dmg]x3

    Borg set, upgraded to MK XII through Task Force Omega Rep

    Obelisk Subspace Rift Warp Core

    Red Matter Capacitor
    Supspace Field Modulator
    Deuterium Surplus

    Transwarp Computer
    Energy Signature Dampener [+ResAll]
    EPS Flow Regulator MK XII
    Plasmonic Leech

    Assimilated Console
    Field Generator MK XI blue (farming for a MK XII purple)

    4x Vulnerabiliy Locator [+Ap]

    TT1, BFAW2, BFAW3 (debating replacing BFAW2 with an attack pattern or BO)

    ET1, EPW2, EPS3, DEM3 (will replace EPW2 with Aux to Bat when I get a purple tech doff)

    EPW1, RSP1

    EPS1

    ST1, HE2

    Current Doffs> Purple damage control, purple dev lab, 2x blue conn, Exocomp. Working towards purple technician(s) and sixth space doff

    Cap'n has 9 ranks in> Starship weapons, energy weapons, starship targeting, starship maneuvers; Batteries, hull repair, structural integrity, electro-plasma systems, warp core efficiancy, warp core potential, impulse thrusters, subsystem performances; Flow capacitors, shield emitters, shield system. 6 ranks in subsystem repair. 1 rank in power insulators
  • babofkababofka Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    basic build tutorial

    to start things off with, heres a nice simple, cheap to put together build for a cruiser. chances are your in a cruiser, and would like to pvp in it and primarily deal damage. wile thats not its primary role, it can be done, and its a good platform for learning the ropes of pvp. this will be more of a tutorial then a serious build, but it will create a very sturdy ship that you can practice taking damage and healing in.

    tac/eng/sci captain assault cruiser

    use 8 beam arrays of your choice, as long as they are all the same energy type.

    tactical team 1, fire at will 2

    tactical team 1


    emergency power to weapons 1, emergency power to shields 2, reverse shield polarity 2, axillary to structural 3

    emergency power to weapons 1, emergency power to shields 2, engineering team 3 (or extend shields 2, or directed energy modulation 2, or eject warp plasma 1, or axillary to structural 2)


    hazzard emitters 1, transfer shield strength 2

    power level presets
    attack/speed- 100/25/50/25
    attack/tank- 100/50/25/25
    GTFO- 25/50/100/25
    aux healing- 25/50/25/100

    you have 4 available presets, i would set them up like this if i were you.


    deflector- borg

    engine- borg

    shield- maco

    its likely you have stf set pieces, maco is the best shield. the borg deflector and engine gives you an extra hull heal for more defense, but for offense you could use the omega deflector and engine and deal passive extra shield damage.

    eng consoles
    2 sfi, 2 neutronium

    sci consoles
    2 field generators

    tac consoles
    3 energy weapons specific to the type your using

    DOFFs-

    duty officers, or doffs, are the newest addition to your ships equipment, and now your most important piece of equipment. the safest bet for any ship is to get 3 shields distribution doffs, 3 green should be cheap enough, and be quite effective. you use their effect the same you you use RSP, when your shields are down to nothing. wile your taking fire, activate it and receive a good to great shield heal. for the other 2 slots, you could equip 2 conn doffs to reduce the cooldown on evasive maneuvers. do your own research on your doffs, having the right doff in combination with your station powers will make a big difference in your performance.




    the assault cruiser is easy to get when you make admiral, chances are free if you have a token. its a simple, sturdy ship that can put down good damage over time.



    2 tactical teams, or TT, will give you good protection from incoming damage. they balance your shield hit points to reinforce the shield facing thats getting hit, keeping you safe from hull damage. at all times you want to be manually distributing your shields as well, this is the #1, most important thing you can do in pvp if you want to survive.

    with 8 beam arrays, fire at will, or FAW, will be good at hitting all near by targets, including spam and help clear it. its not a good skill for single target damage though.

    emergency power to weapons and shields are very important skills. with the way their cool downs work, every 15 seconds you can activate 1 of the 4 of them and enjoy 100% up time with the bonus power they provide. emergency power to shields, or EPtS, offers extra shield resistance as well as extra shield power. no mater what ship you fly, you want to have this skill on at all times.

    reverse shield polarity, or RSP, is an oh TRIBBLE skill, but is often misused. this skill should not be your first line of defense, but your last line. for between 5 and 15 seconds depending on grade, it converts incoming energy to shield hitpoints, as a secondary effect this makes you basically invincible. but thats its secondary effect. you ONLY want to use this skill when all your shields are down to slivers and you dont have any other shield heal ready. if you have been cycling EPtS, TT, and manually distributing, your shields should all drain at once, creating the ideal opportunity to use this skill.

    hazard emitters, or HE, is a hull heal over time. auxiliary to structural, or AtS, is an instant hull heal and resist. it has a global cooldown of 10 seconds when you use 2 copies of it, and the resist lasts 10 seconds. with 2 copies you can have full up time with this skill too. AtS3 is only available on very rare bridge officers, but shouldn't be too hard to find on the exchange.

    transfer shield strength, or TSS, is a shield heal and resist over time, a great skill to use when you start getting attacked. how good these 3 skills are depends on how much auxiliary power you have. if your in need of strong heals, use an aux batt or transfer energy to aux.

    eject warp plasma, or EWP, leaves a trail of plasma behind you and acts like a snare to enemies that touch it

    extend shields, or ES, is a shield heal over time to allies, you cant use it on your self. you would be most useful to your team if you used this skill

    directed energy modulation, or DEM, is a small extra shield penetrating damage applied to your weapons.



    with all these skills, you should have good damage dealing, good tanking, and good support capability. this is a cruisers role, adding their pressure damage and giving heals out to those in trouble, and keeping yourself healthy too.


    many more builds will be salvaged from old threads soon, when i get to it

    was trying out this build but really dont get it... all the emergency power to TRIBBLE share 15sec CD so you mostly block your power to weapons or shield with the other one... do i miss something i am doing wrong??
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    babofka wrote: »
    was trying out this build but really dont get it... all the emergency power to TRIBBLE share 15sec CD so you mostly block your power to weapons or shield with the other one... do i miss something i am doing wrong??

    2 copies of 2 different EPt skills fit together perfectly, with perfect up time for both types. slot 3 blue or better damage control doffs and you can get nearly reliable full uptime like that with just 1 copy each. also with tech doffs and AtB, anything that can run 4 EPtX skills will probably be able to use that too

    keep in mind the builds in this thread are a bit outdated, most are pre LoR. if the builds don't have any of the more recent additions, its not because im advising you not to use them
  • mavshaxmavshax Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    You can chain, 2 EPTX skills if you're paying attention.

    I would rather use the EPTX cooldown doffs first before having 2 pairs of EPTX skills eating up boff slots.

    I tend to run 3 EPTX skills in cruisers, and use the third as a supplement.


    I plan on doing some farming, and at least updating my cruisers consoles, if not the reputation. Eventually I want to. Just to see how insane my engineers defense can get to become. I'm going to pick all of the heal bonuses for the repfarm. And all of the heal consoles.

    Combined with fleet shields I'm curious to see just how zombie the engineer can become now.

    So far in my return, I've noticed that the maco might as well not even be in the game without external heals. Fleet Shields seem to be the only way to maintain old durability, at least without the embassy consoles and reputation.

    That's right.... he's baaaaack at least till October. I want to see this trainwreck first hand.
  • baukl0tzbaukl0tz Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    for the fun by "Soully" changed by Bauklotz some lyrics :)

    Back to the primitive
    **** all your politics
    We got our life to live
    The way we want to be

    Back to the primitive
    **** all your politics
    "Who feels it, knows it"
    (Bob Marley)
    And HoBo will guide me

    HoBo!
    HoBo!

    Back to the primitive
    **** all your bull****
    We're back to set it free
    Confronting the negative

    Back to the primitive
    **** all you wannabes
    You don't mean **** to me
    Let it bleed

    HoBo!
    HoBo!

    Back to the primitive
    **** all your politics
    We got our life to live
    The way we want to be

    Back to the primitive
    **** all your politics
    How it used to be
    Check your reality

    HoBo!
    HoBo!

    Back to the primitive
    **** all your politics
    **** all you wannabes
    yeaah!

    Back to the primitive
    **** all your politics
    Forever we will be
    What we want to be

    (shout)
    HoBo
    HoBo
    HoBo

    letzz pewpew
    i love u all!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aub6juh3Cmg
  • stardefence1stardefence1 Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    hiya guys I am really doing something wrong as I try and try and seem to get TRIBBLE results
    I have a JEM'HADAR BUG SHIP WITH THE FOLLOWING LAY OUT



    2014-09-15_15-13-33_zpsf280ae79.png





    2014-09-15_15-14-42_zpsb7d19340.png




    please guys can some one give me a real cannon boat skill /build


    build2_zps40e8fe98.png
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Tons of issues with the biggest seen is gear.

    Your so damn squishy...Jem hadar shields. no neutroniums...you must get rocked pretty quick.

    Could I request you to put a build up from stoacademy.com? Then I can see all traits/skills/boff layouts/gear.

    Those critd tactical consoles would be much better as crith(locators)

    I see you gave a disruptor/borg assimilated gear set...this must be the only you wanted people to look at...

    Needs more neutronium and fleet tacticals

    Ya these screen shots are a little too annoying. Put a build up from stoacademy.com,so that everyone can see everything in 1 window.

    No power insulators? You crazy
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • stardefence1stardefence1 Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited September 2014
  • stardefence1stardefence1 Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    if you can help me turn this in to a right predator
    I would be so happy
  • stardefence1stardefence1 Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    hiya dahminus any chance you may be able to help ?
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Damn...that is a ton of issues....beam:target abilities and your not using any beams...that says it all.

    What's the budget man?

    And are you a soloist or part of a team?
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • stardefence1stardefence1 Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    hiya buddy thanks for the reply
    sorry I love this game but are not very good at the build parts

    I have just seen you skill tree il copy that and give it ago

    plus can you help me on what beams I should have front and back ?
  • stardefence1stardefence1 Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    plus what boffs should I use plus are the consoles ok for this ship
    should I train any of my officers in any special abilities ?
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=jembug2o_0

    Same link as your other thread.

    It'll be a lot better...now that I thought about it, an aux2damp build may be too much for you...try this build out...might be ya the style your looking for.
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • stardefence1stardefence1 Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    hiya buddy
    are you sure the skill tree I have will now be ok is there nothing I can do to improve it
    if it is would you mind showing me in the skill tree ?
    im sorry for asking all these questions

    ?
    if you can sort me the perfect build what is second to non il throw you a few million energy credits
    please could you let me no buddy ?
  • truthseeker10368truthseeker10368 Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Hi.:-)

    This is how my KDF Bugship looks like.

    Ignore the warpcore, as most antimatter warpcores that have the [amp] mod will do fine.:-)

    Regarding shields : Maco or elite fleet resilient shields with adapt mod, one with Res A and one with Res B.


    Link : http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=truthsbugshipkdf_0


    I hope this helps.:-)



    Truthseeker69

    Sad Pandas/Show Me Your Critz
  • jaymclaughlinjaymclaughlin Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I'm not new to PVP, I can usually hold my own in the arenas, as long as I'm not pugging against premades anyway haha.

    Anyway, I levelled up a new toon yesterday to have as a pure PVP'er.


    He's a Romulan Alien tac, and I generally like to fly escorts with high spike damage.


    Any tips on PVP specific skill trees?
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  • nitefiuunitefiuu Member Posts: 253 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    dontdrunkimshoot,

    any thoughts on a tac_bortas("T5-U") as a Engineer ? i know its not a pvp ship by default specially as engineer but im curious if you could make something out of it.

    can be expensive or what-so-eva, not a problem

    ((aux2bat-dem-fawdragonfire-tankboat-etc is booring, something unique im looking for))
    Battle Trek Online: KILL EVERYTHING
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  • biggamoonpyebiggamoonpye Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    This may not be the right place for this but, im new to the game lvl 50 so far and looking for a fleet to join, My main interest is in pvp. it looks like the ques are empty for pvp alot not sure why, but if you have a fleet/corp that is in to pvp and recruiting id be interested thanks
    Bigga@biggamoonpye
  • skylordquasarskylordquasar Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Does anyone have an recommendations for this ship? its seems very good but im having trouble doing enough damage. what builds would you use to crush other cruisers?
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