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Federation Cloak - Pointless?
pulserazor
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What is the point of having a cloaking device on a ship that can only deploy outside combat?
In almost any situation, we are always in combat. It wouldnt be much of a game if it was not so. What then are we to do with this cloak? Depoly it at the beginning of a mission/ques event/pvp, decloak to get a short ambush buff... and then perform like a ship that has no cloak?
Make it a battle cloak, or dont give us a cloak at all. Non combat cloak will have pretty much no impact on gameplay.
Stop me if im wrong.
In almost any situation, we are always in combat. It wouldnt be much of a game if it was not so. What then are we to do with this cloak? Depoly it at the beginning of a mission/ques event/pvp, decloak to get a short ambush buff... and then perform like a ship that has no cloak?
Make it a battle cloak, or dont give us a cloak at all. Non combat cloak will have pretty much no impact on gameplay.
Stop me if im wrong.
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Cloaks are fun. In PVP, they allow you to stalk your prey before hitting them with a well-executed Alpha Strike. In single-player missions, you can sneak through mobs of enemies. In STFs, you can cloak out of combat to get a boosted alpha strike against a target for slightly more damage.
They're not supposed to be huge features, just fun little gimmicks.
*zips up flame suit*
The Feds shouldn't get even a regular cloak.
Seeing that the Rommy intel ship is hull nerfed for it's EBC, the Fed cloak should be nerfed.
Make it a 10 second duration with no decloak bonus and a cooldown of 3 mins.
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1:
Your not always in combat. As you start out out of combat. And most mission mobs have gaps large enough to cloak.
2:
You can easily pop up from the rear, side, or what ever you choose. Then use the bonus of coming off the cloak to unleash fury on the target.
3: Its a fun way to attack your target.
I been doing this with my KDF for a long time now. And its fun.
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CSE - cloak between cubes... maybe. if you deliberately park for it, I can make it there in less then 4 seconds.
Ise - Claok at spawn.
Kase - cloak at spawn, Cloak while going to second gate (but its probably dead) cloak for Donatra's Spawn.
Hoe - Cloak at spawn.
FA - Cloak at spawn
I could go on. but the point is, yes. you are pretty much always in combat unless you deliberately run away or afk in this mythical gap between mobs you allude to -- for however long it will take to get out of combat, which slows down damage output so much that you are far better to yourself and to your team if you just dont run away to cloak.
Cloak at spawn, then cloak at spawn again when you die, or deliberately run away from combat (whilst achieving 0dps, and allowing AI to scatter, or player created opportunities like grav well etc pass by) for as long and far as you have to, (12 seconds is it? - an eternity.) just to enable the cloak again.
Non Battle Cloak = Pointless. Please keep your Spawn-in-only cloak. We cant use it, ergo we dont need it. Save your time and resources coding better things into the game.
Dude you need to pause, take a deep breath and chill... So their opinion differs to yours, his opinion also differs to mine, there's no need for such a blatant over-reaction...
I find plenty of opportunity in PVE to re-cloak, while still spending the minimum amount of time out of combat, generally while moving between groups of enemies...
I do not intentionally disengage, or shy from combat, simply to re-cloak but re-cloak at every opportunity otherwise...
Remove all cloaks from the game. Failing that, cloaking devices should reduce damage resistance and weapon damage as long as its equipped. Ships that have it as a permanent feature should inherently be weaker than other ships of the same category (I.e. a D'Deridex should lose HP and DPS compared to a Galaxy of the same tier).
This..... so this.... my KDF flies a mogh.... the cloak gets used.... not in combat..... but it still gets used.... especially for that decloak-alpha
Feds: "We want cloak!"
When they actually get open cloak use: "We don't want cloak anymore!"
Make your minds up, KDF players have been effectively using these cloaks for years, so it isn't the cloaks.
I know. Doesn't stop it being amusing.
You´re not wrong. At this point regular cloak is just for the sake of lore of fluff.
If you really think roms do less damage and are less durable... well, dang, I don´t know what to tell you other than perhaps you should educate yourself further in the game.
it's the feds not just a few not all maybe not even most but not a few ether.... the fact that there a thread whining that now they got cloak calling it "fed cloak" when it the same cloak kdf has, and asking for battle cloak says alot and none of it good.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
its just so fitting that the very same cloak feddies cried over for years as being so OP and such a huge advantage suddenly isnt very great at all... and you creampuffs havent even flown the ships yet :rolleyes:
seriously, you guys are the running joke of sto.
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I'm sorry I'm far too cynical to assume people who don't post are any better... it's a character flaw.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Look mate, Feds have been demanding cloaks for years, and they are now moving onto demanding battle-cloaks now they realise basic cloak isn't what they thought it was. It is only worthy of derisory laughter.
I'm with Annemarie on it. this needs to be included in the FCT
don't turn it into a bigger issue then it is: one person on a forum who wants something.