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moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
edited September 2014 in Ten Forward
Simple question: On your starships, do you ever try to go for "authentic" weapons and gear sets?

On my Fed, I have a straight up simple Photon & Phaser weapon setup. I'm looking for Purple Warp cores and Impulse engines. My Science and Engineering rigs are all about maintaining shields and keeping them up and my Tacticals are all Photon and Phaser boosts.

Anyone else do that?
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  • umaekoumaeko Member Posts: 748 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Typically, I go with iconic loadouts, but not obstinately. Other times I try to match more obvious hardpoints on my ships when feasible - especially Cryptic-creations.

    The exception occurs when a game update occurs which pits us players against a specific enemy.

    For example:
    Ty'shana zh'Anthi, my andorian tactical captain, commands a Tempest-class patrol escort. Usually, she goes with Elite phaser arrays and photon torpedoes. But witrh reputations coming into play, she's installed bio-molecular phasers and photon torpedoes, along with the gravimetric torpedo that's an holdover from the Voth reputation.

    When she'll stop actively fighting the Undine, I'll likely have her return to Elite Phasers as a good general all-rounder until focus will fall on another enemy. Odds are, as long as she'll be in her Tempest-class, using the Nadion bomb console, that she'll favor phaser-based weaponry over anything else anyways.

    That will likely be put back into question when Tier 6 ships will become available.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    My main character is specifically designed to not use authentic weapons and gear sets. She is an exiled Borg that is using the Federation and any technology she can find to help her acquire the power to destroy the Borg Queen once and for all so she can take over the Collective. Once she takes over, she will set the Borg back on the path to perfection. Assimilating unwilling victims corrupts the Collective and drives the Collective further and further away from perfection.
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I am not a huge stickler for it all the time--however, I am pretty proud of getting my Dromias cruiser to look and act just like the ones in the game as far as its weapons and console loadout.

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  • janus1975janus1975 Member Posts: 739 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Absolutely!

    I go on the basis of having each loadout credible, on the basis of it being 30 years into the future from TNG. So that means that every ship must have energy and kinetic weapons (even if it's just a single torp launcher fore), favoring the traditional weapon types unless there's a reason for something else (e.g. my KDF toons use Disruptor, except the one who's in a Korath Temporal Science vessel which uses Antiproton); ships will follow a form of traditional battle philosophy (e.g. Federation has beams, but the Romulan engineer has a DHC on the D'Deridex purely because Romulans tend to focus on beams but have a cannon of some description as standard), etc.

    In terms of Reputation weapons, I have the Gravimetric Photon on one toon for the set bonus and the photon's red, but use the Counter-Command on my KDF toons for set bonus as the photon's green. Only the Romulans and Reman have the Romulan and Omega plasmas as they're traditional plasma users.

    This approach benefits my use of some of the unique consoles (such as the phaser point defense for Starfleet versus the Disruptor for KDF), and provides every toon with some unique playstyle even comparing like-with-like (e.g. KDF tactical is a different beast to Starfleet tactical).

    I don't play PvP and stick to PvE, but can hold my own in Elites and on solo missions such as Tau Dewa without blowing up (at least, rarely), and I count that as a success factor.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,586 Community Moderator
    edited September 2014
    My Sci Caitian has Elite Fleet Phaser Beams on her Vesta, with a Gravemetric Photon in the front and Wide Angle Quantum in the back.

    I almost never leave home without torpedoes.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,586 Community Moderator
    edited September 2014
    Not true. I have a tractor beam... and two Tractor Repulsors. :P
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Hrmm, I'm not sure I've got a single "authentic" build.

    T'varo w/ KHG and Photons out the wahzoo.
    Kar'Fi w/ Dyson, Protonic Polarons, and Orion Interceptors.
    Varanus w/ Nukara and R-Tets.
    Mogh w/ AKHG, Rom Plas, and Hyper-Plas.
    Marauder w/ Borg, Polarized Disruptors, and Scorpions.
    Haakona w/ Rom, Biomatter, and a Plasma Torp.
    Guramba w/ Fluidic, Disruptors, and Elachi Torp (3pc for Haywire at that).
    B'rel w/ Aegis, Biomatter, and Grav/E-Bio Photons.
    Mirror Qin w/ Omega, Fluidic AP, and Grav Photon.
  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I use faction gear where I can do so without hurting my toon's build. Most obvious example is my Rom tac that only uses Rom plasma, but my Rom sci uses Polarized Disruptors because Plasma doesnt work with her drain spec. My KDF and Feds mostly use faction tech in the same way. Hard sometimes because rep gear (ala Dyson gravtorp) is not really faction-oriented so you have to squint sometimes. I do not like lockbox ships either and I have made one toon "civilian" for the purpose of putting out-of-faction ships on him, but some holes in faction lineups make it mandatory to use out-of-faction ships on other toons in some cases. IMO, immersion improves gameplay, and even if Cryptic doesnt give a care well I'm the one playing and trying to get whatever enjoyment I can and this helps a little.
  • hfmuddhfmudd Member Posts: 881 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    All the time.
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  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    hfmudd wrote: »
    All the time.

    Your avatar reminded me that we need to get Captain Mudd's fancy duds on the C-Store.
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  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    janus1975 wrote: »
    Absolutely!

    I go on the basis of having each loadout credible, on the basis of it being 30 years into the future from TNG. So that means that every ship must have energy and kinetic weapons (even if it's just a single torp launcher fore), favoring the traditional weapon types unless there's a reason for something else (e.g. my KDF toons use Disruptor, except the one who's in a Korath Temporal Science vessel which uses Antiproton); ships will follow a form of traditional battle philosophy (e.g. Federation has beams, but the Romulan engineer has a DHC on the D'Deridex purely because Romulans tend to focus on beams but have a cannon of some description as standard), etc.

    In terms of Reputation weapons, I have the Gravimetric Photon on one toon for the set bonus and the photon's red, but use the Counter-Command on my KDF toons for set bonus as the photon's green. Only the Romulans and Reman have the Romulan and Omega plasmas as they're traditional plasma users.

    This approach benefits my use of some of the unique consoles (such as the phaser point defense for Starfleet versus the Disruptor for KDF), and provides every toon with some unique playstyle even comparing like-with-like (e.g. KDF tactical is a different beast to Starfleet tactical).

    I don't play PvP and stick to PvE, but can hold my own in Elites and on solo missions such as Tau Dewa without blowing up (at least, rarely), and I count that as a success factor.

    Well, I play relatively similarly, though my T'Varo (lacking a canon loadout to work from) is armed in a fashion similar to the Enterprise-C in Temporal Ambassador or the NPC T'Varos.

    That said, I use those pre-LoR bio-molecular torpedoes and disruptors on my Romulans.

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  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    To some extent.

    Most of my KDF builds are using disruptors, all my Romulan builds are using either disruptors or plasma. My Fed main has left phasers behind on most of his ships (still has Andorian phasers on his Khyzon just because they look wicked-cool) in favor of polarized disruptors, antiproton or Rom plasma. I'm working on a bio disruptor build for the USS Tiburon. My other Feds do mostly use phasers.

    I work on matching weapons to visible hardpoints, and almost every ship I have is equipped with at least one torpedo launcher.
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  • shevetshevet Member Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I tend to default to an "appropriate" build, but I'm not doctrinaire about it.

    It helps that my character concept, on my main toon at least, is that of an "experimental engineer" whose job is to do combat-proving on a wide range of different equipment. So it makes perfect sense for her to be flying a Tholian ship with Starfleet shields, Romulan plasma weapons, and a bunch of exotic add-ons. (But her Andorian escort uses Andorian phasers, because, well, she's Andorian, and they're best. :D )
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I can tell you that every single one of my ships is 100% authentic, except maybe my PvP B'rel when in torp-ship mode, otherwise she's authenitc as well. That's the way I like it and have fun in the game, I'm here for the Star Trek.
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  • theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,511 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Usually yes. My Starfleet ships are in most cases with phasers & quantum (occasionally photon while leveling) torps equipped; my KDF ships with disruptors & also quantums (not really canon for KDF but I assume that since Starfleet started replacing photon torps with quantum torps the Klingons would not fall back) & my Romulan of course also the traditional disruptors & plasma torps.

    Some exceptions are if I have a ship with not enough tac-boff skills to support beams & torps; in those cases I put torps that are unaffected by skills in it like the 'peng.
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited September 2014
  • lindalefflindaleff Member Posts: 3,734 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    The closest thing I will ever get to authentic is my Vesta with its full Phaser load. As for all of my other ships, they all are built for maximum damage output, so Antiproton all the way.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    some of my toons are very weapon specific, iconic to them. my newset lvl 50 toon runs exclusively ap beams, nothing but ap beams, ap beams all day and night.

    my main runs disruptor beams because shes klingon fed and disruptors are versatile, before that it was rainbow beams of death.

    my ferengi runs phaser only setup on his risa cruiser, always doing evasive maneuvers/eject plasma 3, pulling enemies with the wave console, then for deadly effect bfaw phaser broadside to finish em off.

    my kdf klingon 3rd eldest toon on my account runs ap cannons and quants, hasnt run anything other then that for years.

    my orion kdf runs disruptor beams exclusively on her ships.
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  • lindalefflindaleff Member Posts: 3,734 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    The only ship that uses beams at all is my Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier. The others all exclusively use cannon builds. Somehow, firing bolts is much more realistic to me than beams. So my ships are more authentic to real-world than they are to Star Trek.

    The same applies to my ground gear. I don't use any beam weapons at all. Assault rifles that shoot bolts are much more real-world realistic than shooting beams, and even more so when compared to something like a Split Beam Rifle. I even make military uniforms for myself, and my Away Team.
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  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    It's nice not to be alone.

    My three Klingons are all what I regard as "reasonably" themed - flying Klingon vessels, using disruptors (either elite or polarized) and with overwhelmingly Klingon crews. There are a few Romulan / Nausicaan / Human specialist but they're a small number of secondees.

    My Gorn alt - now being retired I admit - is far more doctrinal. Flies a Varanus with an all-Gorn crew (including DOffs) except for a few Voth renegades. Voth, at least, do not have nasty mammalian personal habits. The ship itself packs disruptors and photons.

    My original Fed has an ENT-era (22nd century) theme. This means flying an Armitage, which can at least be tailored to resemble an NX - class, and sporting an all human crew apart from the obligatory Vulcan science officer. Weapons wise a bit of a cop out - it uses antiprotons as they are the best visual match for phase cannons (honest guv...) and gravimetric photons in lieu of photonic torpedoes.

    The latest alt - being worked up as an alternative Fed for DR - is shockingly unrealistic, by comparison. A Fed Klingon captain with (currently) all Klingon BOffs flying a disruptor-armed patrol escort. I like to think of this as the logical extension of the renewed cooperation between the Federation and the Empire. :)
  • warpedcorewarpedcore Member Posts: 362 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    All of my ships in game are equipped and fought just like they are on TV. All of my Federation ships, minus the Defiant and Sovereign, use Photons. All of them use Phasers, with the Defiant being the only ship to use cannons.

    I came here to play Star Trek, not some generic space adventure.
  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    warpedcore wrote: »
    All of my ships in game are equipped and fought just like they are on TV. All of my Federation ships, minus the Defiant and Sovereign, use Photons. All of them use Phasers, with the Defiant being the only ship to use cannons.

    I came here to play Star Trek, not some generic space adventure.

    That's basically what I'm going for - and lacking genuine loadouts, I try to use one of each because it fits.

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  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    warpedcore wrote: »
    All of my ships in game are equipped and fought just like they are on TV. All of my Federation ships, minus the Defiant and Sovereign, use Photons. All of them use Phasers, with the Defiant being the only ship to use cannons.

    I came here to play Star Trek, not some generic space adventure.

    I salute you, sir, but feel obliged to point out the following:

    In TWOK, the Enterprise NCC-1701 and Reliant look suspiciously like they have cannons.

    The Mirror NX-01 appears to use dual cannons.

    I will now stop nitpicking :).
  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    staq16 wrote: »
    I salute you, sir, but feel obliged to point out the following:

    In TWOK, the Enterprise NCC-1701 and Reliant look suspiciously like they have cannons.

    The Mirror NX-01 appears to use dual cannons.

    I will now stop nitpicking :).

    Well, the TWOK thing isn't entirely accurate - they look like some sort of beam-cannon hybrid.

    That said, though these are both valid points, he is unlikely to have any of those ships at this point. :P

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  • artfulmerkageartfulmerkage Member Posts: 294 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Mostly.

    Fleet MVAE using AP and Gravimetric Photon
    Fleet Excelsior using Phasers
    S'golth using Bio-Disruptor and Undine Photon
    Fleet Mogh using Disruptor and ye olde Omega torp
    Fleet Mogai using RomPlas and Rom torp
    Scimitar/Fleet Arkif using RomPlas
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  • grandnaguszek1grandnaguszek1 Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Not true. I have a tractor beam... and two Tractor Repulsors. :P

    You may, but I don't install them on your ship until tuesday:P.

    As for weapons layouts, I just throw together whatever high powered weapons I can find that complement my boff abilities. Then I find some consols that boost my hull, shields, and weapons.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Varies by captain.
    • Captain Kanril Eleya:
      • Her gameplay ship, the USS Andraste, is only sorta authentic. It's an Avenger-class running an antiproton beam broadsider build. Still got VATA, though.
      • I also actively use the USS Bajor, a T4 Exploration Cruiser with the GCS skin, with phaser broadside and a quantum torpedo launcher front and back. This is authentic inasmuch as it's the armament it uses in my fanfiction.
    • General Brokosh flies a Tor'Kaht-class. All cannons, all disruptors.
    • Khre'riov Morgan t'Thavrau flies a D'deridex-class with all beams (romplas) and an aft torpedo (Romulan hyper-plasma).
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  • ryan218ryan218 Member Posts: 36,106 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I tend to go for a mix between modern and canon loadouts. That means the canon loadout but modernised or a canon loadout modified to fit the situation.

    For example, most of my Fed ships run with Quantum Torpedoes, but all use phasers. Depending on if I'm going escort or cruiser/sci, my Miranda's will use a DS9-era canon loadout. What I mean by this is; I remember in Sacrifice of Angels a Miranda-Class using what looked like a single phaser cannon on the underside of the sensor dome (it did not look like a torpedo), and as the STO Miranda has a turret hardpoint in that same position, I fit a dual beam and torpedo on the forward position while fitting a turret aft.

    If I'm rolling anything other than an escort toon, I run broadside phasers and torpedo.

    I use single beams fore and aft for my T2 Constitutions (even though I tend to use the Exeter) with torpedoes as well. Sabers get Dual cannons, turret and torpedo.

    However, my current T5 Ambassador is running a turret in one of its weapons slots, and I plan to do the same for my T3 on my alt. Reasoning is that my T3 is a retrofitted Dominion War vessel, and is a combat vessel as a result. I even have it using transphasics forward, but that's an experiment to see how useful they are.

    Otherwise, I go for canon loadouts on all but cryptic ships. On Cryptic ships, I use faction-specific weapons (phasers for feds, with Photons and Quantums), tailoring them to fit the ship's aesthetic or based on practicality. My Vesta uses a turret simply because it's a carrier and I got sick of my beams missing Tholian Black Widows.
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    YES!


    No, not really. Using Spiral Waves is the closest I will get to Phasers until I can craft my own uber guns. Yes, Phaser with CrtH and [Pen] will do just fine ... eventually. :)
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