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Keep Calm: What To Do (And Not Do) While Waiting for Delta Rising Info

sekritagentsekritagent Member Posts: 510 Arc User
So our team is probably working out the details of Delta Rising. However once the decision is made, it is likely final.
tacofangs wrote: »
That's because we no longer include the forums, or players in general (outside of more controlled interview settings) to see the process, talk about what we're planning on doing, or what's up coming. Instead, by time we are ready to talk about a thing, it pretty much is set in stone. That's not saying there isn't some wiggle room. We'll take feedback on how something was put in, and tweak some stuff, but the process has likely already been going long enough that we can't just dump it all and start over again.

I know it's hard to swallow, but we ARE the ones to decide how something is going to be. We are the one's being paid to do so. You are welcome to disagree with us, and we will gladly listen to your opinion on the matter, and may even change something because of it, but at the end of the day, we are the developers of the game.


No information coming from the EP or developers? No problem! Take control and be smart with these few steps. They might even be encouraged to move things along a little faster! But I doubt it. :D If you don't agree, feel free to bypass the thread. I'm not telling you what to do, just making some suggestions.

  1. DON'T buy any ships out of the C-Store. Do not buy any ships from the C-Store for any reason until you hear the news on details to upgrade ships from T5 to T6 if that's even going to be possible across the board. Especially do not buy them with dilithium! When they produce the info, then you can decide what to do. Bear in mind the Level 40 ships and Mirror ships are objectively "competitive" right now but not at all top-tier equipment. Don't fall for the semantics...competitive is NOT the same as equivalent.
  2. DON'T buy any fleet ships. Same thing applies here. The devs have made it clear that T6 will now be top-of-the-line ships with exclusive abilities, so it'd be crazy to invest any FC's or FSM's into these ships without knowing more. Prices on these don't ever go up and the store isn't going anywhere so no reason to rush.
  3. DON'T open lockboxes for ships. With the exception of the JHAS which has been stated to be upgradeable to T6 free-of-charge, consider not opening lockboxes at all until you know more about the plan for these ships. Hoard your keys, the boxes will still be there when you know more information.
  4. DON'T buy reputation equipment, including carrier pets. These items are currently at Mk XII and we now know Mk XIII and Mk XIV equipment is coming. There might or might not be something beyond Ultra Rare as well. There's no need to purchase this stuff until the devs give clear expectations around upgrades to these items.
  5. DON'T buy fleet equipment, including carrier pets and consoles. Same here. And definitely stop buying Advanced Fleet weapons, they have better modifiers but will be outclassed with the new stuff. This stuff is always around and there's zero reason to rush into any purchases until we know more.
  6. DON'T buy Lobi ships or gear. Same as everything above. This is the most expensive gear in the game by far and you NEED an answer before investing in this stuff. Again the store will always be there so there's no reason to TRIBBLE yourself by buying any of these items right now.
  7. DO stockpile dilithium. We don't know enough details, but we can reasonably infer Cryptic wouldn't be doing this much work without expecting a huge revenue component. You should expect at least some dilithium costs to either craft, upgrade, or rebuy your existing ground and ship equipment.
  8. DO stockpile ZEN. Same as above. You should definitely be hoarding your stipend if you receive it as a Gold member (won't get you much but 1000 ZEN better than you have now) and consider cashing in some of your dil if you're sitting on a large stockpile of that and comparatively little ZEN. If they offer a big T6 ship pack like they did with the Legacy of Romulus Legacy Pack, you'll want the ZEN to purchase that later instead of the cash offer they'll probably have for early adopters, if you're willing to be patient for it to show up in the C-Store.
  9. DO rank up your doffing commendations. Despite the doffing system not having received any love for quite some time (I would NOT consider that monstrous UI overhaul anything like "love"), I think it's reasonable to expect this could expand too. There's no loss here, even if you rank all these up to T4, the missions will still be there for you to use to level your toons to the new maximum. And all the blue and purple doffs and titles you get along the way are icing on the cake.
  10. DO consider consolidating your main gameplay to fewer toons and ships. This one is largely personal preference but alt-a-holics could find it cost prohibitive to upgrade everything on every ship and every boff and every toon. Dilithium and pre-sponsorship Reputation were strong motivation to consolidate my serious grinding operations to just 3 main toons and severely restrict efforts and investments on my alts. As the serious Power Farmers know, alts can be useful to stockpile resources to funnel to main toons.

Moderators, kindly do not merge this post with the other Season 10/DR reaction posts. This is a specific guide for players who need assistance navigating these uncertain times to calm specific anxiety.
Delta Rising is the best expansion ever and the players love it! No, seriously! ...Why are you laughing so hard? :(
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  • daqheghdaqhegh Member Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    DO use common sense.

    DO NOT tell mods what to do.

    /thread simplified
    My Old Blog about things that could and should have been added when I wrote it. Not sure what I want to do with it now. I'll just keep it available now that most of it is outdated.
  • bobosmrade1bobosmrade1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Just what I was planning to do ;)
    Cave Troll vs Forum troll
    Know the difference
    It could save your life...
    rushatsi wrote: »
    pvp? whats dat?
    Pervert vs. Pervert!:eek:
  • adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Most importantly however DO NOT forget to post amusing things in the Doom thread :D
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,586 Community Moderator
    edited August 2014
    So... if I was planning on buying a ship to get the console for another ship I should hold off?
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • daqheghdaqhegh Member Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    rattler2 wrote: »
    So... if I was planning on buying a ship to get the console for another ship I should hold off?

    If you're going for a set I say go for it. All this obsolescence TRIBBLE is nothing more than fear mongering. If you really want it, and you're willing to pay for it, just f'n buy it.
    My Old Blog about things that could and should have been added when I wrote it. Not sure what I want to do with it now. I'll just keep it available now that most of it is outdated.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,586 Community Moderator
    edited August 2014
    I'm not afraid like everyone else. I'd rather wait and see what Cryptic says before crying DOOOM.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • sekritagentsekritagent Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    rattler2 wrote: »
    So... if I was planning on buying a ship to get the console for another ship I should hold off?

    It's up to you but if the price isn't going up, there's no reason to do anything but wait.
    Delta Rising is the best expansion ever and the players love it! No, seriously! ...Why are you laughing so hard? :(
  • battykoda0battykoda0 Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    rattler2 wrote: »
    I'm not afraid like everyone else. I'd rather wait and see what Cryptic says before crying DOOOM.

    Say you wanted a plasmodic leech. It's going to work the same on a T6 as a Tx. Go for it.
    Wow. There is a new KDF Science ship. I'll be!
  • atlmyklatlmykl Member Posts: 305 Arc User1
    edited August 2014
    daqhegh wrote: »
    If you're going for a set I say go for it. All this obsolescence TRIBBLE is nothing more than fear mongering. If you really want it, and you're willing to pay for it, just f'n buy it.

    Exactly. Forum trolls are in a all out panic over a level cap increase. I bet a change of the menu at the local drive thru triggers a panic attack in them.

    DO LOCK THIS THREAD.
  • sekritagentsekritagent Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    He said specifically buying a ship to get a console to put on another ship. That's something he should wait to do if the price isn't going up.

    If you are talking leech or aceton, the advice stands, but it's not what he asked.
    Delta Rising is the best expansion ever and the players love it! No, seriously! ...Why are you laughing so hard? :(
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,586 Community Moderator
    edited August 2014
    I was actually working on getting the Subspace Jumper for my Mirror Ki'tang.
    As a F2P player, I'm working the DL Exchange. I'm not as concerned with the next great shiny as much... wait... I want that TR-116B.

    Anyways... I make plans to get things and work towards them. Word of T6 stuff doesn't worry me. Its everyone who acts like the sky is falling when we have little to no information that drives me nuts.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • sekritagentsekritagent Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Nobody is saying the sky is falling. If you want to burn your resources on stuff that's going to be changed in some way, go ahead and good luck.

    If you're not interested in the advice, the OP specifically asks you to keep scrolling by. It's just suggestions based on common sense. But how dare you come here and call me a troll for doing so. I've not attacked you in any way nor does this thread do you any harm.
    Delta Rising is the best expansion ever and the players love it! No, seriously! ...Why are you laughing so hard? :(
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,586 Community Moderator
    edited August 2014
    Um... who said I was attacked? I was just stating my position on the whole situation. And I wasn't saying you were in that group. There are others who are crying Doom. You're not.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • lystentlystent Member Posts: 1,019
    edited August 2014
    I skimmed through the list and it, for the most part, seems reasonable. Safe, at least, anyways.
  • sekritagentsekritagent Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I think spending EC on level-less items like cross-faction consoles and doffs is okay though. I wouldn't blow big EC on purple Mk XII equipment, especially not the astronomical prices of the new crafted gear that's at Mk XII.
    Delta Rising is the best expansion ever and the players love it! No, seriously! ...Why are you laughing so hard? :(
  • artfulmerkageartfulmerkage Member Posts: 294 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Sensible advice Sekrit.
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    Valdus | Charn | Costello | Typhus | Thyran
  • ussinterceptussintercept Member Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    atlmykl wrote: »
    Exactly. Forum trolls are in a all out panic over a level cap increase. I bet a change of the menu at the local drive thru triggers a panic attack in them.

    DO LOCK THIS THREAD.

    If anyones trolling it surely isnt the OP. Ive always found it funny that those who are actually going around derailing threads claim others as trolls when in fact theyre behavior is the real cause of problems.

    People are entitled to their opinions. If you dont like the subject of the thread. You should just avoid it rather then trying to assert malicious intent on the part of the OP.

    As for the Original Post. I agree. Upgrades or not. We havent been promised anything per ship like the Bugship. So for now. Its the only viable purchase without running the risk of regretting it later.
  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    So our team is probably working out the details of Delta Rising. However once the decision is made, it is likely final.

    No information coming from the EP or developers? No problem! Take control and be smart with these few steps. They might even be encouraged to move things along a little faster! But I doubt it. :D If you don't agree, feel free to bypass the thread. I'm not telling you what to do, just making some suggestions.

    i think its great advice, and its pretty much in the vein of what i have been doing and advising others to do as well.
    in fact, i am curious if op would mind too much if this was sent out as a fleet mail (with the requisite link to post of course).
  • sekritagentsekritagent Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Not at all, please do, in fact, the more the better. I see lockbox messages still scrolling across and I'm not sure people fully understand the implications of the level cap increase vs. the dearth of information right now.

    It's a risky time to be making big investments understanding just how worthless Mk X became when Mk XI came out and even more so when Mk XII became mainstream.
    Delta Rising is the best expansion ever and the players love it! No, seriously! ...Why are you laughing so hard? :(
  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    What, you dont think buying soon to be second class ships is a good idea?


    I know, no pitchforks and torches. Still, you have to keep the flame..ehm fire hot.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I'm not sure people fully understand the implications of the level cap increase vs. the dearth of information right now.

    That works both ways. We're just as in the dark as the people who are still playing the game as normal and making financial decisions as normal.
    It's a risky time to be making big investments understanding just how worthless Mk X became when Mk XI came out and even more so when Mk XII became mainstream.

    It's risky. But to me it's about calculated risk. I may hold off on purchases for the time being until given more information -- that is wise.

    But to assume I know how the system will work and will be implemented would be sheer ignorance on my part. I couldn't even begin to take an educated opinion based on just how little info we are given.

    And if I can't, I really don't expect anyone else to, either. So when I see these assumptions and theories, they're usually rooted in cynicism and paranoia rather than reality.

    DO: Keep an open mind and attempt to remain objective up until specific and crucial information is given.

    DON'T: Jump to conclusions based on fear.

    DO: Understand Cryptic isn't going to say "Stop giving us money for a few months.", which will mean either they release dev blogs or other info in order to address the understandable concerns players have about current purchases.

    Or... they don't want to TRIBBLE us over as bad as some people seem to think they will and have a system set up to where current purchases will be upgradable.

    To be fair, it is also possible (even entering the realm of probable) that they simply won't say anything about it at all in order to milk what they can out of us as a result of our ignorance. In doing so, however, they would be commiting what I would consider an extremely shady maneuver and worthy of simply not playing STO or any PWE game again.

    But I consider that to be unlikely since they don't maliciously try to go out of their way to harm us.

    DON'T: Pretend to know about the systems they are working on and coming out.

    DO: Be receptive to information instead of dismissing it all out of hand because Cryptic said something before that turned out not to be true.
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  • pompoulusspompouluss Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    It's weird how people are equating 'you probably shouldn't buy stuff right now' with 'doom'.

    Is it really that bad to hold off on buying stuff? Is it really alarmism to advise you to not buy stuff for awhile? I don't think it's that crazy to say 'don't spend money until you're reasonably confident what you're spending money on'. With an MMO you can never be 100% sure but you could do better than the current question mark.

    Hey, it's your nickel, but if it turns out that your purchase was unwise and you come to the forums all, "I'm so jaded, I'll never love again, Cryptic has spit in my eye and thrown my plants out the window" understand that I will be judging you. More or less like I'm judging you now so I guess it'll be par for course.

    EDIT: And that's a general 'you', ie anyone who suspects it might be them is probably right.
  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Yeah, I've pretty much halted any gameplay plans or purchase considerations for the time being until more info is released. Until then, I just make the usual doff rounds and slot crafting projects, about 20-30 minutes of gametime.

    I'd say if you're not hell bent on stockpiling for the next expansion, this is a good time to take a breather.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    pompouluss wrote: »
    Is it really that bad to hold off on buying stuff? Is it really alarmism to advise you to not buy stuff for awhile? I don't think it's that crazy to say 'don't spend money until you're reasonably confident what you're spending money on'. With an MMO you can never be 100% sure but you do better than the current question mark.

    No, you are absolutely correct. There is nothing wrong (and it certainly isn't alarmist) with holding off on making purchases while the future of 'top-of-the-line' gear/equipment/ships/whatever is in the dark.

    It's a wise decision that is made by wise people all of the time when the future of their current investments is ambiguous or questionable.

    And given the limited information we are given, no, I can't say I blame anyone for holding off on purchases. Ideally, I'd prefer it if Cryptic took a financial hit to the wallet as a result of this bungled PR move to release Delta Rising's information. If anything, to tell them to smarten up when it comes to this sort of thing.

    I don't wish undue harm on Cryptic, but I don't think they should have any room to talk about their income being lower than normal as a result of their poor communication abilities. Which they do have. In great amounts.
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  • sekritagentsekritagent Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    hypl wrote: »
    I'd say if you're not hell bent on stockpiling for the next expansion, this is a good time to take a breather.

    An excellent point. My activity is really limited to passively grinding crafting and spending my alts' marks boxes earnings grinding rep with sponsorship tokens provided by my mains. I might do some light doffing but there's nothing keeping me in game right now aside from chat.
    Delta Rising is the best expansion ever and the players love it! No, seriously! ...Why are you laughing so hard? :(
  • valenn1valenn1 Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Sounds like good advices, i'm doing most of the stuff, plus stockpiling EC and a "garage sale" of all MK XI/XII items from my storage characters.
    Beta, LTA, CE, Multiple preorder Versions, all Addon Packs except AoY, nearly all KDF/Rom and ~50% of all Fedships, over 25 LockboxShips, Endurer of Atari's "Year of Hell", but...
    unfortunately:

    NOT LOYAL ENOUGH!!!
  • nachtfangennachtfangen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    DO go play another game, because after this last atrocity PWE/Craptic have made it clear that STO is now 100% pay-to-win.
  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    DO go play another game, because after this last atrocity PWE/Craptic have made it clear that STO is now 100% pay-to-win.

    note: pay to win doesn't mean... whatever this person thinks it does.

    since nothing has changed as far that goes... at least tell the t6 zen ships come out, even that isn't really new. zen ships have been op for quite sometime. and even those you don't have to pay a dime.

    p.s. you don't have to pay to craft ether, it's all in game.

    p.p.s. made easier is QoL not pay to win.

    p.p.p.s. oh and on topic if your worried about ships the advice is good, otherwise carry on as normal.

    if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    DO go play another game, because after this last atrocity PWE/Craptic have made it clear that STO is now 100% pay-to-win.

    100% pay for Convenience yes, but not pay to win. Only Veteran/LTS/Special Edition stuff is not available to someone with patience to grind for, and nothing amongst that lot is P2W.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited August 2014
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