This may be the Prime era of the A2B build. I shudder to think what future build will dethrown the A2B build. If its even possible.
The only way I ever see it happening is through the addition of new doffs. Something like, when using a Sci ability the Next sci abilitys damage output is trippled. Anyways it could be done with some crafty doffs. Only problem is this does nothing for the PVE of the game because theres never any new challengeing content. It could only influence PVP.
Yay! Defiant loses yet another spot in the escort lineup! Useless than ever!
cant wait to test my new xindi toy on ya ;D
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certainly the best AtB pug stomp escort. 5 fore weapons continues to be the most damage buffing factor on cannon ships, i cant believe how hard i can hit with 5 DHC on my mogh and avenger, and this is an escort platform. that ENS tac is the only letdown, assuming an AtB build.
17 turn rate, 3 eng consoles, it wont break any mobility records, and the survivability enhancements wile not losing tac skill uptime from an AtB build will only be relevant if no healer is around. if there is, it wont be much of an improvement over an andorian, and still wont be able to keep up with a well flown bug.
im just surprised how quickly the hunter and patrol refit was downgraded
TT, CRF1, CRF2, APO3
TT, APB1
TS1 or BFAW (depending on what you put in aft slot)
EPTE1, RSP1, EPTS3
HE1, TSS2
RSP and EPtS3 means TSS2 is wholly unnecessary. Use that for HE2 to improve your lone hull repair. Then in the ensign sci you can do whatever, ST1 or maybe TB1, or use MES1 and they wont see you coming. So ridiculous putting that much engi on these ships, it lets you do crazy stuff that you have no business doing on an escort.
Yay! Defiant loses yet another spot in the escort lineup! Useless than ever!
Well... If everybody would look back and think about this for a moment... The defiant is the first of this ship type, looking at a perspective of keeping the star trek world alive within the game ( which I personally don't believe is happening very much anymore) the defiant is a vintage ship, the first of the escorts, so don't knock it, just respect it. She is a rough tough scrapper built for nothing but straight firepower exchange, and well... Not much else... Especially since the ship is suppose to fall apart because of its design, only being held together by overcharged SIF generators, what could you possibly expect?
Well now you can use Nukara rep trait with higher Aux power.
As for potential it really depends on the situation. 1v1, 5v5, PvE, CnHs, team play v pugging. ..
EPTS3 makes you damn tanky in an escort with 1.1 shield mod.
Throw in a high shield power of 125, TSS2, the undine reputation traits
Nanoprobe Field Generator + Bio-Molecular Shield Generator, Pattern Recognition: Each stack grants +2% Defense and +2% Hardened Shields
Momentum: Each stack grants +3% Flight Speed and +3% Turn Rate, Shields & Arrays ◦Activating a Shield Heal gives the target 99% Shield DR for 1 second, and aux2id doffed + armor or fleet eng console, and Engineering ◦Activating any Engineering Bridge Officer ability gives 20% Damage Reduction for 3 seconds.
Heck the list can go on, and you can make for some serious tankiness, but don't forget there are also those traits, that are there to try and negate all of this tankiness goodness.
Well... If everybody would look back and think about this for a moment... The defiant is the first of this ship type, looking at a perspective of keeping the star trek world alive within the game ( which I personally don't believe is happening very much anymore) the defiant is a vintage ship, the first of the escorts, so don't knock it, just respect it. She is a rough tough scrapper built for nothing but straight firepower exchange, and well... Not much else... Especially since the ship is suppose to fall apart because of its design, only being held together by overcharged SIF generators, what could you possibly expect?
It's kinda disturbing to know I can't fly that little canon beauty like a pure escort because it is outdated. Just give it ensign universal, 0.99 shield modifier, battle cloak device. That'd do wonders for it.
certainly the best AtB pug stomp escort. 5 fore weapons continues to be the most damage buffing factor on cannon ships, i cant believe how hard i can hit with 5 DHC on my mogh and avenger, and this is an escort platform. that ENS tac is the only letdown, assuming an AtB build.
17 turn rate, 3 eng consoles, it wont break any mobility records, and the survivability enhancements wile not losing tac skill uptime from an AtB build will only be relevant if no healer is around. if there is, it wont be much of an improvement over an andorian, and still wont be able to keep up with a well flown bug.
im just surprised how quickly the hunter and patrol refit was downgraded
maybe wont be able to keep up with a well flown bug but can punch much harder..this Xindi have 17 turn rate but on 21 impulse modifier compared to the hirogen - 0.19 and s'golth - 0.20 and u have it on 5 fore ship..
but yea it's basically super buffed A2B ready andorian with good shield/impulse
Cryptic...update our beloved Defiant, immediately! We Feds players loving the REAL Star Trek Universe are sad to see too powerful vessels from minor civilizations!
i dont think u can pass xindi as "minor civilizations"
in the show u see reptilians as very aggressive spartan racist culture..
so strictly form startreks pov it may be heresy lol but i don't think Defiant suppose to be on the same level of an elite xindi escort..
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Doffs can fix the issue but I would rather use my doffs in other fields.
It'll be an aux2bat boat
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The only way I ever see it happening is through the addition of new doffs. Something like, when using a Sci ability the Next sci abilitys damage output is trippled. Anyways it could be done with some crafty doffs. Only problem is this does nothing for the PVE of the game because theres never any new challengeing content. It could only influence PVP.
not really
*2 TT or *2 FAW or *2 BO depend on ur build
So 2 zemoks, 3 damage control, and a keel'el?
30 second cd on a weak torp skill...even in pvp, that sounds a bit low end.
Tt, apd1, apo1, crf3
Tt,
Epte1, a2b1, rsp
Epts1, a2b1,
St1, HE1
Depending how bad TRIBBLE those new xindi boffs are, you might be able to get away with just 1 a2b and get dem in there.
Wouldn't it be so much better in both of our builds I'd that tactical was a sci or an engineer?
Honestly
(i wont be making mine an aux2bat ship...just making a point of the near worthless ensign slot)
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A third/second sro, good point. But we are in agreement that it's wasted potential
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only if its a2b boat..
ok
iwill agree on half bad point
cant wait to test my new xindi toy on ya ;D
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
17 turn rate, 3 eng consoles, it wont break any mobility records, and the survivability enhancements wile not losing tac skill uptime from an AtB build will only be relevant if no healer is around. if there is, it wont be much of an improvement over an andorian, and still wont be able to keep up with a well flown bug.
im just surprised how quickly the hunter and patrol refit was downgraded
Nouveau riche LTS member
being built off of andorian data no doubt, i bet it works about like those detachable wings do
Shot gun calling my escort Sinestro...the world destroyer power cell is my "Yellow power cell"
* high five...
Anyone?
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RSP and EPtS3 means TSS2 is wholly unnecessary. Use that for HE2 to improve your lone hull repair. Then in the ensign sci you can do whatever, ST1 or maybe TB1, or use MES1 and they wont see you coming. So ridiculous putting that much engi on these ships, it lets you do crazy stuff that you have no business doing on an escort.
And that hull/shield is crazy.
I've been real stubborn with the Defiant. The Tempest though was a killer against it. Then this new Escort comes out...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HA1mbZ_MMh8
The Escort is the Lobi Store ship. The Carrier, is the Lockbox ship.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Throw in a high shield power of 125, TSS2, the undine reputation traits
Nanoprobe Field Generator + Bio-Molecular Shield Generator, Pattern Recognition: Each stack grants +2% Defense and +2% Hardened Shields
Momentum: Each stack grants +3% Flight Speed and +3% Turn Rate, Shields & Arrays ◦Activating a Shield Heal gives the target 99% Shield DR for 1 second, and aux2id doffed + armor or fleet eng console, and Engineering ◦Activating any Engineering Bridge Officer ability gives 20% Damage Reduction for 3 seconds.
Heck the list can go on, and you can make for some serious tankiness, but don't forget there are also those traits, that are there to try and negate all of this tankiness goodness.
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Your Ramming Speed III deals 242658 (243540) Kinetic Damage (Critical) to you.
It's kinda disturbing to know I can't fly that little canon beauty like a pure escort because it is outdated. Just give it ensign universal, 0.99 shield modifier, battle cloak device. That'd do wonders for it.
Then see if you can get someone to yell at you for Aux2batting anyway.
maybe wont be able to keep up with a well flown bug but can punch much harder..this Xindi have 17 turn rate but on 21 impulse modifier compared to the hirogen - 0.19 and s'golth - 0.20 and u have it on 5 fore ship..
but yea it's basically super buffed A2B ready andorian with good shield/impulse
i dont think u can pass xindi as "minor civilizations"
in the show u see reptilians as very aggressive spartan racist culture..
so strictly form startreks pov it may be heresy lol but i don't think Defiant suppose to be on the same level of an elite xindi escort..