there is a a2b faw list on the leaderboard?Im sure there are other pve players with higher scores than yours.
that narrows it to abotu 20 ships...probably more but some of those players havent played in the last month or so.
when you say team you mean 4 players killed by 1 cruiser?
im sure there are plenty, i haven't used a hard core faw build for months, and it was only for a day or so because it was boring. think last thing i even used beam on was a sci bortas, but optimized for single target damage, not faw.
the only time i see 4 players killed by 1 cruiser is when i stalk kar'rat in my 5 DHC mogh:D
the FBPFAW cruiser i mentioned was fraught in a C&H, i took it down over and over. faw cruisers need at least 2 other faw cruisers in range to melt 4 other targets without recourse.
I'm one of those that is dead against Aux2BS for a number of reasons, the biggest being that it gives you access to 10 abilites, all at or near the global cooldown, for the cost of 2 BOFF abilities and 3 Tech DOFFs. Nothing ever comes close. (As antoniosalieri pointed out in another thread, those 3 Tech DOFFs are the virtual equivalent of over 40 other DOFFs, all wrapped in to 3.)
As such, whenever I come across a match that has 2 or more Aux2BS builds, I'm warping out. I don't care whose team they're on, mine, the opposition or a mix in between, but I'm out of there.
I know that this will peeve a lot of people off, but I fundamentally disagree with this ridiculous ability and I will not bend my principles on this matter any longer. I will link to this forum post in the chat window and then warp out. If you agree with this stance then I invite you to do the same.
Given the sometimes huge wait time for PvP matches this may mean that a match that people have been waiting for for up to 10 minutes might become a farce. I'm sorry, but matches with 2 or more no-imagination cookie-cutter Aux2BS builds are a farce anyway.
If you wish to provide negative feedback regarding my choice to warp out then feel free to do so. That is your right. Negative feedback won't stop me from doing it. Even if there was a leaver penalty I wouldn't be dissuaded from leaving. (With the 20 hour cooldown on the PvP missions a leaver penalty would be worthless anyway.)
To those who fundamentally disagree with Aux2BS like I do, I ask you to leave matches like I do. If enough people do this we may hopefully instigate some change.
To those who run Aux2BS builds, I'm looking forward to not having to run against your exploitative builds. Also, how about you try to use your imagination and utilise some original thought rather than follow a no-brainer cookie cutter build recipe?
Signed....
Main reason i (and A LOT of other PVP players) stopped playing STO
Those a2b cruisers that spam all 3 teams and rsp at global so can be tanky while still putting out good dps are annoying, when pugging and can be overpowered if the other team isn't coordinating, but it is beatable.
The most dangerous team in the queues lately isn't using any a2b at all though and we can quickly take down anyone using it, a2b actually makes them a little more vulnerable to our attacks. In the premade environment, a2b is a non-issue, for us anyway.
I think it some slight adjustments to abilities and not a complete nerf to a2b or technicians would solve most problems with a2b being overpowered on pugs and in Kerrat. I said it many times, a2b should put rsp on a cooldown or not work with it somehow, there now they can have super high power and everything else at global and would have to sacrifice rsp, this would balance it by making them glass canons.
Those a2b cruisers that spam all 3 teams and rsp at global so can be tanky while still putting out good dps are annoying, when pugging and can be overpowered if the other team isn't coordinating, but it is beatable.
The most dangerous team in the queues lately isn't using any a2b at all though and we can quickly take down anyone using it, a2b actually makes them a little more vulnerable to our attacks. In the premade environment, a2b is a non-issue, for us anyway.
I think it some slight adjustments to abilities and not a complete nerf to a2b or technicians would solve most problems with a2b being overpowered on pugs and in Kerrat. I said it many times, a2b should put rsp on a cooldown or not work with it somehow, there now they can have super high power and everything else at global and would have to sacrifice rsp, this would balance it by making them glass canons.
Right. A2B has great flaws. The fact that they can't adapt is the problem. I'm yet to see a premade that relies on A2B.
Adapt or die.
There's no crying in baseball.
Inner Circle / Special Circumstances Gardiner, Suval, Thran Korvak, Raketh, Xedar, Zidow Decis, Vesok
Surely those casuls using a2b are ruining the game, wait till you see some people with high aux power buffing their deeps to 50k ish lol, A2B IS LOSS OF DPS!
If somebody asked me what ruins the game I would have to say TRIBBLE that leave pvp arenas because they suck and refuse to play the game so they could have any chance to learn, what else they do, or actually what they never do is: They never ask for help, they never ask advices, ignorant as they are.
Amen.
And btw bops are OP please Nerf bops
Say the word, it saves the world. CUUCUUMBEER!"-With slight partigen with it." Proud member or DPS-800"-We kill dem mines with our scitter turrets."
Loss of DPS means little when the effectiveness you gain is so significant. Aux2Bat didn't used to be such a problem until they fixed FAW and it became so well known that there was no reason for anyone *not* to use it.
I personally fly cruisers and I don't use it. I'm not sure if that makes me some sort of heretic, but whatever. My personal feeling is that aux2bat could use with some kind of balance pass, but- as the devs have stated- it's a delicate issue.
As for adaption, the issue with that is that there is very little that can be done to counter such strict superiority. When your solution for adaption is 'be a rom tac officer and fly a vaper'- that's not remotely any kind of adaption, that's as single solution to all problems as aux2bat builds are in the first place.
Adapt would be like, oh, figuring out how to fight aux2bat builds in your eng cruiser without using it yourself. I mean props to anyone who has a vaper, those are solid builds and well put together, but in the context of adapting a toon's build, they're only viable for a small subset of toons.
The Aegis set is broken and aux2bat ships benefit from it. Welcome to the first ever STO aux2bat appreciation event. All aux2bat ships using the Aegis set have GODmode on until the next patch.
Aux2bat reducing set powers cooldowns and contributes to inspirational leader procing. Basically, they coded the set powers like regular boff abilities by mistake.
I'm one of those that is dead against Aux2BS for a number of reasons, the biggest being that it gives you access to 10 abilites, all at or near the global cooldown, blah, blah, blahddy blah blah.
Could it be? Is that OP an example of More QQ, Less Pew Pew?
The Aegis set is broken and aux2bat ships benefit from it. Welcome to the first ever STO aux2bat appreciation event. All aux2bat ships using the Aegis set have GODmode on until the next patch.
i slot it to test it but didn't have time.
disconected to the game and return 5 hours later to do a little pvp, but i forget i have the set on the ship. ( auxtobat galaxy x )
didn't notice anything special or spectacular, in fact i have die more than with my previous set.... go figure.
so didn't look like a god mode to me, even if it was broken as you suggest.
disconected to the game and return 5 hours later to do a little pvp, but i forget i have the set on the ship. ( auxtobat galaxy x )
didn't notice anything special or spectacular, in fact i have die more than with my previous set.... go figure.
so didn't look like a god mode to me, even if it was broken as you suggest.
ok, they seem to be a bug, the cliky power wasn't available in my drag and drop tray, so i coudn't use the power.
now i have it, i will make some test to see.
if it a bug they will fix it anyway.
Comments
im sure there are plenty, i haven't used a hard core faw build for months, and it was only for a day or so because it was boring. think last thing i even used beam on was a sci bortas, but optimized for single target damage, not faw.
the only time i see 4 players killed by 1 cruiser is when i stalk kar'rat in my 5 DHC mogh:D
the FBPFAW cruiser i mentioned was fraught in a C&H, i took it down over and over. faw cruisers need at least 2 other faw cruisers in range to melt 4 other targets without recourse.
Super SpecialStar Trek Online Review
SpecialTemporal PUG 100K DPS Build
We are Travelers
You too?
/10chars
http://i.imgur.com/o3dusAq.gif
http://i.imgur.com/3H7L9ZF.png
http://i.imgur.com/KscfLHc.gif
Signed....
Main reason i (and A LOT of other PVP players) stopped playing STO
The most dangerous team in the queues lately isn't using any a2b at all though and we can quickly take down anyone using it, a2b actually makes them a little more vulnerable to our attacks. In the premade environment, a2b is a non-issue, for us anyway.
I think it some slight adjustments to abilities and not a complete nerf to a2b or technicians would solve most problems with a2b being overpowered on pugs and in Kerrat. I said it many times, a2b should put rsp on a cooldown or not work with it somehow, there now they can have super high power and everything else at global and would have to sacrifice rsp, this would balance it by making them glass canons.
Right. A2B has great flaws. The fact that they can't adapt is the problem. I'm yet to see a premade that relies on A2B.
Adapt or die.
There's no crying in baseball.
Gardiner, Suval, Thran
Korvak, Raketh, Xedar, Zidow
Decis, Vesok
If somebody asked me what ruins the game I would have to say TRIBBLE that leave pvp arenas because they suck and refuse to play the game so they could have any chance to learn, what else they do, or actually what they never do is: They never ask for help, they never ask advices, ignorant as they are.
Amen.
And btw bops are OP please Nerf bops
CUUCUUMBEER! "-With slight partigen with it."
Proud member or DPS-800 "-We kill dem mines with our scitter turrets."
I personally fly cruisers and I don't use it. I'm not sure if that makes me some sort of heretic, but whatever. My personal feeling is that aux2bat could use with some kind of balance pass, but- as the devs have stated- it's a delicate issue.
As for adaption, the issue with that is that there is very little that can be done to counter such strict superiority. When your solution for adaption is 'be a rom tac officer and fly a vaper'- that's not remotely any kind of adaption, that's as single solution to all problems as aux2bat builds are in the first place.
Adapt would be like, oh, figuring out how to fight aux2bat builds in your eng cruiser without using it yourself. I mean props to anyone who has a vaper, those are solid builds and well put together, but in the context of adapting a toon's build, they're only viable for a small subset of toons.
CUUCUUMBEER! "-With slight partigen with it."
Proud member or DPS-800 "-We kill dem mines with our scitter turrets."
Aux2bat reducing set powers cooldowns and contributes to inspirational leader procing. Basically, they coded the set powers like regular boff abilities by mistake.
Nothing is impossible to him who would try.... except getting cryptic to care about pvp.
Could it be? Is that OP an example of More QQ, Less Pew Pew?
i slot it to test it but didn't have time.
disconected to the game and return 5 hours later to do a little pvp, but i forget i have the set on the ship. ( auxtobat galaxy x )
didn't notice anything special or spectacular, in fact i have die more than with my previous set.... go figure.
so didn't look like a god mode to me, even if it was broken as you suggest.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=528931&page=271
ok, they seem to be a bug, the cliky power wasn't available in my drag and drop tray, so i coudn't use the power.
now i have it, i will make some test to see.
if it a bug they will fix it anyway.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=528931&page=271