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I'm quitting PvP matches that contain too many Aux2BS ships

darramouss1darramouss1 Member Posts: 1,811 Arc User
edited July 2014 in PvP Gameplay
I'm one of those that is dead against Aux2BS for a number of reasons, the biggest being that it gives you access to 10 abilites, all at or near the global cooldown, for the cost of 2 BOFF abilities and 3 Tech DOFFs. Nothing ever comes close. (As antoniosalieri pointed out in another thread, those 3 Tech DOFFs are the virtual equivalent of over 40 other DOFFs, all wrapped in to 3.)

As such, whenever I come across a match that has 2 or more Aux2BS builds, I'm warping out. I don't care whose team they're on, mine, the opposition or a mix in between, but I'm out of there.

I know that this will peeve a lot of people off, but I fundamentally disagree with this ridiculous ability and I will not bend my principles on this matter any longer. I will link to this forum post in the chat window and then warp out. If you agree with this stance then I invite you to do the same.

Given the sometimes huge wait time for PvP matches this may mean that a match that people have been waiting for for up to 10 minutes might become a farce. I'm sorry, but matches with 2 or more no-imagination cookie-cutter Aux2BS builds are a farce anyway.

If you wish to provide negative feedback regarding my choice to warp out then feel free to do so. That is your right. Negative feedback won't stop me from doing it. Even if there was a leaver penalty I wouldn't be dissuaded from leaving. (With the 20 hour cooldown on the PvP missions a leaver penalty would be worthless anyway.)

To those who fundamentally disagree with Aux2BS like I do, I ask you to leave matches like I do. If enough people do this we may hopefully instigate some change.

To those who run Aux2BS builds, I'm looking forward to not having to run against your exploitative builds. Also, how about you try to use your imagination and utilise some original thought rather than follow a no-brainer cookie cutter build recipe?
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  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Didn't you already post this in a thread that turned hostile and ended up being closed by a mod?
    "I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
  • artfulmerkageartfulmerkage Member Posts: 294 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Adapt or die.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Valdus | Charn | Costello | Typhus | Thyran
  • adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Adapt or die.

    Or leave.

    /10 char
    ZiOfChe.png?1
  • hyefatherhyefather Member Posts: 1,286 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Guess you will be quitting them all then.
  • skurfskurf Member Posts: 1,071 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Coward.

    ----
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    adamkafei wrote: »
    Or leave.

    /10 char

    It's a form of adaptation...

    ...that eventually leads not to bothering to queue in the first place.
  • skurfskurf Member Posts: 1,071 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    In addition, I will be reporting you if you warp out of any matches I am in as you will be violating the Terms of Service.

    15. User Conduct

    15.2 Without limiting the foregoing, in addition to the User Content rules set forth in Section 16, you agree not to take any of the following actions:

    f. “stalk,” threaten or otherwise harass or cause discomfort to another;

    h. impede or disrupt the Service or the normal flow of game play or dialogue in the Game or in Interactive Areas (defined below) in the Service or use vulgar language, abusiveness, use of excessive shouting (ALL CAPS), “spamming” or any other disruptive or detrimental methods in an attempt to disturb other users or our employees;

    n. take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    skurf wrote: »
    In addition, I will be reporting you if you warp out of any matches I am in as you will be violating the Terms of Service.

    15. User Conduct

    15.2 Without limiting the foregoing, in addition to the User Content rules set forth in Section 16, you agree not to take any of the following actions:

    f. “stalk,” threaten or otherwise harass or cause discomfort to another;

    h. impede or disrupt the Service or the normal flow of game play or dialogue in the Game or in Interactive Areas (defined below) in the Service or use vulgar language, abusiveness, use of excessive shouting (ALL CAPS), “spamming” or any other disruptive or detrimental methods in an attempt to disturb other users or our employees;

    n. take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service.

    Hrmm, when you put it that way - they should just remove PvP from the game, eh? ;)
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    good, the game is better off with less AtB haters. bugs, sci captains and sci ships are killing him, but its the half harmless cruisers with AtB or inferior to bug escorts with AtB that are ruining everything!
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  • hajmyishajmyis Member Posts: 405 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    viva la revolution!!!


    stop the A2B fanboys
    "Frankly, not sure why you're on a one man nerf campaign. "
  • hajmyishajmyis Member Posts: 405 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    skurf wrote: »
    In addition, I will be reporting you if you warp out of any matches I am in as you will be violating the Terms of Service.

    15. User Conduct

    15.2 Without limiting the foregoing, in addition to the User Content rules set forth in Section 16, you agree not to take any of the following actions:

    f. “stalk,” threaten or otherwise harass or cause discomfort to another;

    h. impede or disrupt the Service or the normal flow of game play or dialogue in the Game or in Interactive Areas (defined below) in the Service or use vulgar language, abusiveness, use of excessive shouting (ALL CAPS), “spamming” or any other disruptive or detrimental methods in an attempt to disturb other users or our employees;

    n. take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service.


    I find this post casuing me Discomfort, and is harassing me. I also find your build very Disruptive to the game play


    so **** me
    "Frankly, not sure why you're on a one man nerf campaign. "
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  • skurfskurf Member Posts: 1,071 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    deokkent wrote: »
    You just called him/her a coward a moments ago dude/tte. Sigh...

    http://pactiss.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Ethics.jpg

    And...? I broke none of those rules by calling the op a coward. Through the content of his post, he is the very definition of a coward.

    It's like someone saying they are 6'10" and then I say, oh you're really tall. That is just stating a fact/stating the obvious, even if they don't like being tall.
  • darramouss1darramouss1 Member Posts: 1,811 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    skurf wrote: »
    And...? I broke none of those rules by calling the op a coward. Through the content of his post, he is the very definition of a coward.

    It's like someone saying they are 6'10" and then I say, oh you're really tall. That is just stating a fact/stating the obvious, even if they don't like being tall.

    Well, if you think that someone sticking to their principles is a "coward" then so be it.

    Just as well I really couldn't care less about what you think. Not even if I tried really really really hard. ;)

    As for the breaches of the Terms of Service (ToS), your argument is null and void. How so? Remember when people were leaving STFs? If your interpretation of the ToS holds true, then everyone who left an STF was in breach of the ToS and would have been subject to action.

    What did Cryptic do?

    They instigated a leavers penalty on STFs which basically says that they either felt that it was an action that didn't breach the ToS but they wanted to actively deter people from doing OR they weren't prepared to take any real form of action if they did consider it a breach of the ToS.

    If Cryptic want to introduce a leavers penalty to PvP I won't complain. It'd probably help kill PvP but so be it.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    A2B haters = Escort online fanboys
    :P

    A2B fanbois = Escort Online fanbois
    ;)
  • notrealednanotrealedna Member Posts: 1,028
    edited July 2014
    skurf wrote: »
    In addition, I will be reporting you if you warp out of any matches I am in as you will be violating the Terms of Service.

    15. User Conduct

    15.2 Without limiting the foregoing, in addition to the User Content rules set forth in Section 16, you agree not to take any of the following actions:

    f. “stalk,” threaten or otherwise harass or cause discomfort to another;

    h. impede or disrupt the Service or the normal flow of game play or dialogue in the Game or in Interactive Areas (defined below) in the Service or use vulgar language, abusiveness, use of excessive shouting (ALL CAPS), “spamming” or any other disruptive or detrimental methods in an attempt to disturb other users or our employees;

    n. take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service.

    Thanks for pointing that out.Now if a fire starts in my house I wont leave the PC....Ill stay in the match .


    btw I love that caps lock is against TOS.That helps me imagine how the "person" (or whatever you call that lifeform) looks like.

    What if you use Shift while typing?Is that against TOS too?Where you find these people to write you that kind of BS?
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    A2B fanbois = Escort Online fanbois
    ;)

    tactical online fan boys
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Think there will be more complaints with S9.5 than before S9.5...that 3pc Aegis set bonus, the KDF getting their buffed EIC, and just well...all sorts of fun things. ;)
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  • l30p4rdl30p4rd Member Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    AtB is for the weak of mind and gameplay !

    There is no way the devs will address this problem (and it is a problem) as long as it makes them money and you have to accept the fact it does make them money. The reason, because it is an easy way out with no thought involved what so ever.

    You know it is a crutch setup because so many people use it leets included. The old saying of "if you cant beat 'em, join 'em" kicks in and that is what everyone one without principal will eventually say and end up doing so they can justify it to themselves and be comfortable with it.

    So many people here who have done a '180 on their principles, you know who you are, the ones that "used" to frown upon AtB but now think it is okay and come up with many creative ways to justify it, usually by attacking people who dont like it.

    But again that's what Craptic want they want us to fight among ourselves because while we do that they can continue to provide a poor service and make you feel greatfull for it by punishing you if you dont conform to their will.

    Simple solution do as I have done and stop playing. I have not logged into the game in over 2 months and dont miss it. I check the forums for any glimmers of hope but all I see is you all sinking in despair and the usual scavengers picking at your corpses.

    There is not a single post on these forums that has a positive tone toward the game or the direction it is going. If you insist on still playing then my advice is stop caring about the game the company that runs it and their supporters dont give a hoot about you and never will.

    This game stopped being a MMO along time ago !
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  • theshushuxtheshushux Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    i usually don't leave when i see a2b ..but i do leave if the guy start bragging...

    shish.. u want to impress me? use ur ship WITHOUT a2b....

    here is a question
    why not make the a2b ready patrol escort with 20 turn rate and be done with this game

    and we can call it - 1 SHIP ONLINE

    (to be fair i do sometimes use a2b ...fleet Ha'feh is the best a2b rom ship imho
    but i have MUCH more fun with non a2b dhelan)
    The original shu-shu !
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  • zeratkzeratk Member Posts: 409
    edited July 2014
    Like Cryptic would care about the ToS...seen so many people misbehaving or even insulting (in a racist way). And they are still playing. So who should be afraid of threatening to get reported for leaving a match or anything else.


    In general, i witness a lot of people leaving matches these days, if there are too many escorts, healer-cruiser or a2b in there.
    This is Crypticverse... :mad:
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