I don't think I've queued since S9.5 hit Tribble...and I've only even hit up Ker'rat a couple of times. Some of the stuff coming with R&D...what's it for? The nuclear grenades tossed into a barrel of goldfish for PvE wasn't enough already? So it's a case of looking at the PvP angle...and meh, I thoroughly enjoy dying in a massive explosion more than is probably healthy...but it just doesn't look like it's going to be much fun after S9.5 hits.
Folks running their SWDs...say hello to [Pen] Phasers with potentially better mods - available in Beams and Cannons. Folks running AP...add some [Pen] and have a blast!
Meh, guess I'm just in that Doooooooooooooooooooom! group now...been able to wiggle my way out of the doom over the years, but I guess I'm wearing down.
i don't think any crafted weapon can have more then one of each mod, so not even acc2 is possible, there's that at least
In addition, I will be reporting you if you warp out of any matches I am in as you will be violating the Terms of Service.
15. User Conduct
15.2 Without limiting the foregoing, in addition to the User Content rules set forth in Section 16, you agree not to take any of the following actions:
f. stalk, threaten or otherwise harass or cause discomfort to another;
h. impede or disrupt the Service or the normal flow of game play or dialogue in the Game or in Interactive Areas (defined below) in the Service or use vulgar language, abusiveness, use of excessive shouting (ALL CAPS), spamming or any other disruptive or detrimental methods in an attempt to disturb other users or our employees;
n. take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service.
So if I refuse to fight you and stay cloak... I guess I am also in violation according to your reading of that legal speak. lmao
Couple of Unique (single equip) consoles available in VR/UR...the UR stats.
Console - Engineering - Conductive RCS Accelerator
+42.5% Flight Turn Rate
When healed, applies Conductive Accelerator for 15 sec
...Reduces Damage to Shields by 10%
...+20% Turn Rate
...Effect can occur once every 30 sec
Console - Science - Exotic Particle Field Exciter
+31.9 Starship Particle Generator
+21.2% Maximum Shield Capacity
When shield healed, applies Field Exciter for 15 sec
...+10 Weapon Power
...Effect can occur once every 30 sec
Couple of Unique (single equip) consoles available in VR/UR...the UR stats.
Console - Engineering - Conductive RCS Accelerator
+42.5% Flight Turn Rate
When healed, applies Conductive Accelerator for 15 sec
...Reduces Damage to Shields by 10%
...+20% Turn Rate
...Effect can occur once every 30 sec
Console - Science - Exotic Particle Field Exciter
+31.9 Starship Particle Generator
+21.2% Maximum Shield Capacity
When shield healed, applies Field Exciter for 15 sec
...+10 Weapon Power
...Effect can occur once every 30 sec
Wasn't Cryptic supposed to be reigning in Power Creep :P
wish their was more folks that would be suggesting combos, talking build strategies, thinking up fun wacky ways of using new content, anything is better then never ending complaining over new content that goes on season after season after season
S7...press the middle of the spacebar.
S8...press the left side of the spacebar.
S9...press the right side of the spacebar.
There's only so ways you can press the spacebar...
edit: Besides, folks do talk strats/tactics...just not in public. Wouldn't be prudent.
In addition, I will be reporting you if you warp out of any matches I am in as you will be violating the Terms of Service.
15. User Conduct
15.2 Without limiting the foregoing, in addition to the User Content rules set forth in Section 16, you agree not to take any of the following actions:
f. stalk, threaten or otherwise harass or cause discomfort to another;
h. impede or disrupt the Service or the normal flow of game play or dialogue in the Game or in Interactive Areas (defined below) in the Service or use vulgar language, abusiveness, use of excessive shouting (ALL CAPS), spamming or any other disruptive or detrimental methods in an attempt to disturb other users or our employees;
n. take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service.
Well...actually, his "warping out" and refusal to participate is actually allowed under the User Conduct section you copy/pasta.
If he didn't, he would violate said ToS.
It seems he has an issue with a very specific circumstance that this game presents during the course of gameplay that can't be reasonably predicted or be notified of prior to.
So, instead of participating unwillingly, he removed/removes himself from gameplay because continuing to play will impede the overall performance of his Team.
"Playing to win" is a basic expectation of individuals engaged in Team play.
Therefore continuing to participate under duress, AFTER knowledge of the specified facet of play the aforementioned player finds contrary to his preferred experience is present, is contrary to the ToS.
or something like that :P
NO to ARC RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
DOFFs: 2x DLS (ST CD), 2x EWO (Beam CD), ME (ET CD), WCE (Cleanse)
Deflector - UR Aegis Mk XII
Engine - UR Aegis Mk XII
Shields - UR Aegis Mk XII
Core - Obelisk
Weapons
Fore - Omni AP Array,3x UR AP Array Mk XII [Acc]x2[CrtD][Pen]
Aft - Kinetic Cutting Beam,3x UR AP Array Mk XII [Acc]x2[CrtD][Pen]
Consoles
Tac - 3x Advanced Tac Vulnerability Locator [+AP]
Eng - Assimilated Module,Aceton Assimilator,2x E-Neut Mk XII [+SIF]
Sci - Plasmonic Leech,2x Shield Refreq Mk XII [+Emit]
Devices - Red Matter, Stuff#1, Stuff#2, Stuff#3
Other - Nimbus Pirate Distress Call
And meh, I got bored already...bah. Add in the following...Sci in a Bulwark, Sci in a Recluse, Sci in a [Redacted] Carrier. Get accused of exploiting drainhax, hullbustinghax, etc, etc, etc...and enjoy the threads?
Me, I figure I'm just going to keep playing Star Trekville, do my DOFFing like the girlfriend plays Farmerama...
Went ahead and did another 16...same deal. Get all sorts of things for Energy Weapons, but the Torps are just the standard stuff. Hrmmm, maybe I should post this in the Tribble section. Meh, that forum's just too far away.
Well...actually, his "warping out" and refusal to participate is actually allowed under the User Conduct section you copy/pasta.
If he didn't, he would violate said ToS.
It seems he has an issue with a very specific circumstance that this game presents during the course of gameplay that can't be reasonably predicted or be notified of prior to.
So, instead of participating unwillingly, he removed/removes himself from gameplay because continuing to play will impede the overall performance of his Team.
"Playing to win" is a basic expectation of individuals engaged in Team play.
Therefore continuing to participate under duress, AFTER knowledge of the specified facet of play the aforementioned player finds contrary to his preferred experience is present, is contrary to the ToS.
or something like that :P
I agree with your interpretation, rezking. Thank you for that. Funny thing is that I also see using Aux2BS as a violation of the ToS. How?
We actually really don't like A2B, but it's a bit of a "third rail" situation. When we have the right fix to it, someday, we'll probably possibly maybe make it.
This says that a fix is needed to correct Aux2BS. A fix ix only ever required when something is not right.
The ToS says...
15. User Conduct
15.1You must observe these Terms, all Rules of Conduct, all applicable laws and all basic rules of etiquette and common courtesy when using the Service. Any conduct that violates the law in an offline, real world community is also a violation of these terms. We will not tolerate any illegal or offensive conduct.
15.2Without limiting the foregoing, in addition to the User Content rules set forth in Section 16, you agree not to take any of the following actions:
l. using or exploiting any bugs, errors, or design flaws to obtain unauthorized access to the Service or to gain an unfair advantage over other players;
I would say that something requiring a fix would fit under "bugs, errors, or design flaws". Especially seeing as providing the unmatched effect of giving captains access to 10 BOFF abilities at global cooldown does give an "unfair advantage over other players".
"But if it's a flaw in the game then they'd fix it, so you can't consider it as a valid example of what the ToS is referring to", I hear some people say. Well, no. There are many issues that need to be fixed in this game, issues that are recognised by PWE, such as the ones referrred to at the end of each Patch Notes forum entry. They also fall under the category of "bugs, errors, or design flaws", they're recognised by PWE and they're not yet fixed.
Honestly, A2B is fine. It's just when there's a whole A2B FAW team when it really becomes a problem. Also pretty funny Feds seem to play nothing but A2B FAW boats these days. :P
Remember when people complained about Escorts being OP? Good job guys.
Edit: This is my opinion and I'm entitled to it. Come at me.
Honestly, A2B is fine. It's just when there's a whole A2B FAW team when it really becomes a problem. Also pretty funny Feds seem to play nothing but A2B FAW boats these days. :P
Remember when people complained about Escorts being OP? Good job guys.
Edit: This is my opinion and I'm entitled to it. Come at me.
escorts were never op...that was their role ...to do damage.
There are cruisers that can solo 4-5 escorts....no need for a team of fawers when 1 antiproton faw fbp can do it solo.
The idea is to stay in one place and have 360 AoE faw that does more damage than escorts .Ofcourse you need better tanking than escorts.
wait...what was the escort role again?I forgot it when geko start playing other games(funny how he is into other games except STO lol ) in his wish to copy other games in sto /facepalm
P.S.: After reading this thread I really look forward to future pvp-whine when S9 hits. Must remember to buy some cheese for it.
The PvE threads are going to be the worst, and you know it. :P
Cause there are going to be folks that waste that bonus Dil weekend stuff on the higher priced Rep weapons or even Fleet weapons only to realize they could have had a V8 from crafting...
I remember the old days where we used to discuss ship builds, and we were trolling the queues subpar pvp builds utilizing aux2bat, long before doffs even existed and a2b had shared cooldown with EptX.
Honestly, A2B is fine. It's just when there's a whole A2B FAW team when it really becomes a problem. Also pretty funny Feds seem to play nothing but A2B FAW boats these days. :P
Remember when people complained about Escorts being OP? Good job guys.
Edit: This is my opinion and I'm entitled to it. Come at me.
There are cruisers that can solo 4-5 escorts....no need for a team of fawers when 1 antiproton faw fbp can do it solo.
watch out everyone! its the USS strawman! i know who your talking about, i killed it over and over with my mogh all by myself the other day. also saw a risan escort take it out solo :rolleyes:
Honestly, A2B is fine. It's just when there's a whole A2B FAW team when it really becomes a problem. Also pretty funny Feds seem to play nothing but A2B FAW boats these days. :P
Remember when people complained about Escorts being OP? Good job guys.
Edit: This is my opinion and I'm entitled to it. Come at me.
Opinion =/= truth.
I was always only a fed+romulan fed, and I don't fly a2b or FAW ships.
watch out everyone! its the USS strawman! i know who your talking about, i killed it over and over with my mogh all by myself the other day. also saw a risan escort take it out solo :rolleyes:
you know there are about 20 different antiproton cruisers that fit the description but you know cuz you know ...and you know because you are a little a2b fawer yourself.You know it ,I know it and everyone knows it.
but yea they are a problem only when in teams...and thats your game version ...the one that no one plays :rolleyes:
you know there are about 20 different antiproton cruisers that fit the description but you know cuz you know ...and you know because you are a little a2b fawer yourself.You know it ,I know it and everyone knows it.
but yea they are a problem only when in teams...and thats your game version ...the one that no one plays :rolleyes:
if your going to accuse me of being a no good "fawer", maybe you should check my gateway links first
AtB, AP, FAW and FBP narrows it down quite a bit. was it a sovereign? FBP is only dangerous on such a thing with an aux batt, and the build has 1 less heal for that low end miss matched power. as long as your smart enough not to bind anything to space bar, its not hard to stop shooting it.
my version of the game is the one were there is... team? is that what your trying to say? no one plays all qued content on teams? ya, no one does that
if your going to accuse me of being a no good "fawer", maybe you should check my gateway links first
AtB, AP, FAW and FBP narrows it down quite a bit. was it a sovereign? FBP is only dangerous on such a thing with an aux batt, and the build has 1 less heal for that low end miss matched power. as long as your smart enough not to bind anything to space bar, its not hard to stop shooting it.
my version of the game is the one were there is... team? is that what your trying to say? no one plays all qued content on teams? ya, no one does that
there is a a2b faw list on the leaderboard?Im sure there are other pve players with higher scores than yours.
that narrows it to abotu 20 ships...probably more but some of those players havent played in the last month or so.
when you say team you mean 4 players killed by 1 cruiser?
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i don't think any crafted weapon can have more then one of each mod, so not even acc2 is possible, there's that at least
Haven't seen any x3, but I've seen plenty of x2. The special mods are just x1, but I can still see the potential for some [Acc]x2[CrtD][Special]...
So if I refuse to fight you and stay cloak... I guess I am also in violation according to your reading of that legal speak. lmao
Couple of Unique (single equip) consoles available in VR/UR...the UR stats.
Console - Engineering - Conductive RCS Accelerator
+42.5% Flight Turn Rate
When healed, applies Conductive Accelerator for 15 sec
...Reduces Damage to Shields by 10%
...+20% Turn Rate
...Effect can occur once every 30 sec
Console - Science - Exotic Particle Field Exciter
+31.9 Starship Particle Generator
+21.2% Maximum Shield Capacity
When shield healed, applies Field Exciter for 15 sec
...+10 Weapon Power
...Effect can occur once every 30 sec
Wasn't Cryptic supposed to be reigning in Power Creep :P
lol
/10char
S7...press the middle of the spacebar.
S8...press the left side of the spacebar.
S9...press the right side of the spacebar.
There's only so ways you can press the spacebar...
edit: Besides, folks do talk strats/tactics...just not in public. Wouldn't be prudent.
Well...actually, his "warping out" and refusal to participate is actually allowed under the User Conduct section you copy/pasta.
If he didn't, he would violate said ToS.
It seems he has an issue with a very specific circumstance that this game presents during the course of gameplay that can't be reasonably predicted or be notified of prior to.
So, instead of participating unwillingly, he removed/removes himself from gameplay because continuing to play will impede the overall performance of his Team.
"Playing to win" is a basic expectation of individuals engaged in Team play.
Therefore continuing to participate under duress, AFTER knowledge of the specified facet of play the aforementioned player finds contrary to his preferred experience is present, is contrary to the ToS.
or something like that :P
RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
Scimitar Dreadnought Warbird w/ KDF-aligned Reman Tac Captain
Traits
Personal - Reman, Infiltrator, Crippling Fire, Last Ditch Effort, Accurate, Elusive, Helmsman, Fleet Tactician, Cannon R&D (whatever it's called)
Space - Advanced Hull Reinforcement, Nanoprobe Field Generator, Precision, Omega Graviton Amplifier
Active - Quantum Singularity Manipulation, Refracting Tetryon Cascade, Bio-Molecular Shield Generator
TT1, TS2, CRF2, APO3
BO1
EPtS1, AtB1, EPtW3, DEM3
ET1, AtB1
HE1, ST2
(5x SRO/Sub)
DOFFs: 2x EWO (BO Pen), SE (DEM), 2x Tech (AtB), WCE (Cleanse)
Deflector - Counter-Command Mk XII
Engine - Counter-Command Mk XII
Shields - Counter-Command Mk XII
Core - Counter-Command Mk XII
Weapons
Fore - E-Bio Torp, 4x UR Phaser Cannons Mk XII [Acc]x2[CrtD][Pen]
Aft - Experimental Proton Weapon, Heavy Bio Phaser Turret, UR Arc Phaser Beam Array Mk XII [Acc]x2[Dmg][Arc]
Consoles
Tac - 4x Advanced Tac Vulnerability Locator [+Pha], Counter-Command Multi-Relay
Eng - Hydrodynamic, UR Conductive RCS
Sci - Valdore, Enhanced Induction Coils, Proton Stabilizer
Devices - Red Matter, Stuff#1, Stuff#2, Stuff#3
Hangar - Elite Interceptors
Other - Nimbus Pirate Distress Call
Tal Shiar Adapted Battle Cruiser w/ KDF-aligned Romulan Eng Captain
Traits
Personal - Romulan, Operative, EPS Manifold, Grace Under Fire, Accurate, Elusive, Biotech Patch, Engineering R&D, Beam R&D
Space - Advanced Hull Reinforcement, Nanoprobe Field Generator, Auxiliary Power Configuration Defense, Auxiliary Power Configuration Offense
Active - Quantum Singularity Manipulation, Refracting Tetryon Cascade, Bio-Molecular Shield Generator
TT1, FAW2
TT1
EPtW1, EPtS2, ET3, AtS3
EPtW1, EPtS2
PH1, HE2, ST3
(5x SRO/Sub)
DOFFs: 2x DLS (ST CD), 2x EWO (Beam CD), ME (ET CD), WCE (Cleanse)
Deflector - UR Aegis Mk XII
Engine - UR Aegis Mk XII
Shields - UR Aegis Mk XII
Core - Obelisk
Weapons
Fore - Omni AP Array, 3x UR AP Array Mk XII [Acc]x2[CrtD][Pen]
Aft - Kinetic Cutting Beam, 3x UR AP Array Mk XII [Acc]x2[CrtD][Pen]
Consoles
Tac - 3x Advanced Tac Vulnerability Locator [+AP]
Eng - Assimilated Module, Aceton Assimilator, 2x E-Neut Mk XII [+SIF]
Sci - Plasmonic Leech, 2x Shield Refreq Mk XII [+Emit]
Devices - Red Matter, Stuff#1, Stuff#2, Stuff#3
Other - Nimbus Pirate Distress Call
And meh, I got bored already...bah. Add in the following...Sci in a Bulwark, Sci in a Recluse, Sci in a [Redacted] Carrier. Get accused of exploiting drainhax, hullbustinghax, etc, etc, etc...and enjoy the threads?
Me, I figure I'm just going to keep playing Star Trekville, do my DOFFing like the girlfriend plays Farmerama...
[Acc][CrtD]x2
[CrtD][Dmg]
[CrtD]x2[Dmg]
[Acc]x2
[CrtD][CrtH]
[Acc]x2
[Acc][CrtD][CrtH]
[Acc][CrtD][Dmg]
[Acc]x2[Dmg]
[Acc][Dmg]
[Acc][CrtD]
[Acc]x2[CrtD]
[CrtH]x2
[CrtD]x2
[Acc][Dmg]
[CrtH]x2
[Acc][CrtH]
[Acc][CrtD]x2
[CrtD][CrtH]x2
[CrtD][CrtH]
[Acc][Dmg]x2
Went ahead and did another 16...same deal. Get all sorts of things for Energy Weapons, but the Torps are just the standard stuff. Hrmmm, maybe I should post this in the Tribble section. Meh, that forum's just too far away.
And Scramble... and Cloak.. And any other form of Disruption..
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Yep, they definitely need to remove Disruptors...they're very disrupting.
I agree with your interpretation, rezking. Thank you for that. Funny thing is that I also see using Aux2BS as a violation of the ToS. How?
This says that a fix is needed to correct Aux2BS. A fix ix only ever required when something is not right.
The ToS says...
15. User Conduct
15.1You must observe these Terms, all Rules of Conduct, all applicable laws and all basic rules of etiquette and common courtesy when using the Service. Any conduct that violates the law in an offline, real world community is also a violation of these terms. We will not tolerate any illegal or offensive conduct.
15.2Without limiting the foregoing, in addition to the User Content rules set forth in Section 16, you agree not to take any of the following actions:
l. using or exploiting any bugs, errors, or design flaws to obtain unauthorized access to the Service or to gain an unfair advantage over other players;
I would say that something requiring a fix would fit under "bugs, errors, or design flaws". Especially seeing as providing the unmatched effect of giving captains access to 10 BOFF abilities at global cooldown does give an "unfair advantage over other players".
"But if it's a flaw in the game then they'd fix it, so you can't consider it as a valid example of what the ToS is referring to", I hear some people say. Well, no. There are many issues that need to be fixed in this game, issues that are recognised by PWE, such as the ones referrred to at the end of each Patch Notes forum entry. They also fall under the category of "bugs, errors, or design flaws", they're recognised by PWE and they're not yet fixed.
All I hear from you is "I use Aux2BS... Aux2BS... Aux2BS... I'm lost without my crutch"
Thunderbolt and lightning, Aux2bat is fright'ning he.
Sorry. Saw the name, had to do it.
Remember when people complained about Escorts being OP? Good job guys.
Edit: This is my opinion and I'm entitled to it. Come at me.
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P.S.: After reading this thread I really look forward to future pvp-whine when S9 hits. Must remember to buy some cheese for it.
When season 9 hits? OMG we've all gone back in time!!!! The devs must have nerfed the spacetime continuum!!!!
escorts were never op...that was their role ...to do damage.
There are cruisers that can solo 4-5 escorts....no need for a team of fawers when 1 antiproton faw fbp can do it solo.
The idea is to stay in one place and have 360 AoE faw that does more damage than escorts .Ofcourse you need better tanking than escorts.
wait...what was the escort role again?I forgot it when geko start playing other games(funny how he is into other games except STO lol ) in his wish to copy other games in sto /facepalm
The PvE threads are going to be the worst, and you know it. :P
Cause there are going to be folks that waste that bonus Dil weekend stuff on the higher priced Rep weapons or even Fleet weapons only to realize they could have had a V8 from crafting...
Haha. those where the days
your opinion is correct.
watch out everyone! its the USS strawman! i know who your talking about, i killed it over and over with my mogh all by myself the other day. also saw a risan escort take it out solo :rolleyes:
Opinion =/= truth.
I was always only a fed+romulan fed, and I don't fly a2b or FAW ships.
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you know there are about 20 different antiproton cruisers that fit the description but you know cuz you know ...and you know because you are a little a2b fawer yourself.You know it ,I know it and everyone knows it.
but yea they are a problem only when in teams...and thats your game version ...the one that no one plays :rolleyes:
if your going to accuse me of being a no good "fawer", maybe you should check my gateway links first
AtB, AP, FAW and FBP narrows it down quite a bit. was it a sovereign? FBP is only dangerous on such a thing with an aux batt, and the build has 1 less heal for that low end miss matched power. as long as your smart enough not to bind anything to space bar, its not hard to stop shooting it.
my version of the game is the one were there is... team? is that what your trying to say? no one plays all qued content on teams? ya, no one does that
there is a a2b faw list on the leaderboard?Im sure there are other pve players with higher scores than yours.
that narrows it to abotu 20 ships...probably more but some of those players havent played in the last month or so.
when you say team you mean 4 players killed by 1 cruiser?