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colonelmarik
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I've been tooling around in the Dyson Sphere lately, and it occurs to me that Sector Space should be set up that way.
That is, you fly around from place to place, there are missions IN THE ZONE, there are enemy ships IN THE ZONE, and so on.
Right now, Sector Space is completely pointless. They should make use of their existing design for Dyson space and revamp Sector Space to resemble it.
That is, you fly around from place to place, there are missions IN THE ZONE, there are enemy ships IN THE ZONE, and so on.
Right now, Sector Space is completely pointless. They should make use of their existing design for Dyson space and revamp Sector Space to resemble it.
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This game needs detailed crafting, exploration and interaction systems.
This game needs detailed crafting, exploration and interaction systems.
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The Dyson Sphere itself is much smaller than a single Sector in space. While as a construct it is enormous, it is still something that can be contained to one solar system among many, many more in even the smallest Space Sector.
While it would be neat idea, the way Sector Space works now is optimum for the scale it's supposed to be set at.
The gameplay reason I don't want to see it is because that's our non-Transwarp travel system to get from place to place. Any impediment to travel affects gameplay in a negative way. Granted that it's not nearly as big a problem as it would've been a few years ago, but still. Sector space is also a social area used for forming up teams prior to entering an instance, as a place to pick up DOFF assignments, and for interfacing with various vendors (freighters, merchants, etc).
If you need a canon reason, I've got one of those too. All combat in Star Trek is either at impulse speeds or synchronizing warp fields in order to force ships out of warp so you can fight at impulse speeds.
The reason being that two ships flying at warp speed within their own warp fields can't fire weapons that only travel at light speed. As soon as the weapon/energy leaves the warp field, it immediately drops out of warp unless it can generate its' own warp field. The only way you can have combat going on at warp speed is if all of the weapon fire is contained within the combined warp fields of both the attacker and the defender. Trek lore is reasonably consistent on this point.
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It's a time sink, an elaborate lobby and it's also a safe zone.
I wouldnt want to be restricted to a system like Sol, Qonos, Drozana or K7 if i want to take a few minutes break from playing the game. I dont want to afk for a few minutes in sector space and get surprise butseks from some NPC patrol while i am gone. If i want something to happen in sector space i will seek it out. Or i'll log onto EVE online where everywhere outside of a station is unsafe.
But it is the same. The only difference is that movement is restricted for the feel of warp travel and there is no transition graphics when changing sectors like we have with the Dyson space zones.
Seems to me there is plenty of stuff to do in sector space if you like...
It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
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It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
This, this, and this ^^^ I agree with all three, more or less.
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Not true at all. Prime example from canon:
TOS episode "The Ultimate Computer" - in two separate ship to ship engagements, we have Spock and Sulu calling out changes in course and warp speed factors for the Enterprise and the other ships involved and firing phasers all throughout and calling hits and misses.
IE - there's no 'synchronization of warp fields' or 'dropping to Impulse speed' required. Yes, in STO currently, all combat takes place at Impulse speeds, but that's something imposed by Cryptic for their gameplay purposes. It has zero relation to what's appeared in Star Trek canon with regard to ship combat at FTL speeds. In Star Trek combat between ships both traveling at different warp speeds has been shown to occur.
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You cant always use the reason 'well it wasnt that way in the shows'. There are certain things in the game that they intentionally make different just to accommodate players.
Doesnt matter how many examples you can cite from tv shows and movies. They made sector space a non combat zone, or rather they made it so that you can decide if you want to participate in combat. And thats that...you can keep saying "but but but..." nope doesnt matter, this is the one place where they said "well the show and movies did it this way, but this is a game so we are going to do it this other way".
Also Sector Space does have a purpose. It gives you a visual picture of what instance (system) you want to go to. It gives you encounters that you can go to and engage. It has doff missions that you can do. If you want to add more purpose to sector space thats fine. But you cant force it upon the player.
My main issue is taking away the safe status. I'll say it again...i dont want to be stuck on Drozana with all the ERP people, or DS9 with all the super srs people, or ESD with all the gorn joke people, or Qonos with....well actually nobody is ever on Qonos so that might be an improvement for the klinks.
Yes, this did happen, but as you leveled up encounters in certain sectors would ignore you and you would have to chase them. For instance, encounters in the Sirius Block would "chase" lieutenants, but not lieutenant commanders and up... etc.
Honestly... I kinda liked it. It made things interesting and sector space less boring.
- I shouldn't be able to "eyeball" another ship 2 ly away... Scale them in at 10km like system space. Reallistically, you really shouldn't bump into anyone flying across the galaxy!
- When in sector space, stars shouldn't dominate your screen until you are within an AU of them. Look up! We're 1 AU from the Sun and it only takes up an extremely small fraction our sky and it's a yellow dwarf. When you are on the edge of a solar system, the star (unless it's a red giant or something) should just be much brighter than the background stars. When you enter the system, then the star should be much bigger.
My point is; Star Trek is fiction based on science. If you eliminate the facts and truths that are "science", then all you are left with is fantasy.
This is true. They quickly removed it when people began to complain they didnt want to be continously harrassed by these encounters as they tried to move from Sector Block to Sector Block.
When grind is concerned the game needs to be predictable so people can plan how to achieve their current objectives without being overly hindered by optional mechanics. A compulsory PvP system would drive the game to desolation if it were introduced as new players and many PvE'ers would just give up and head off to the other games in their stables. What we have now is the best compromise we are likely to get, but maybe let folks who wish the hindrances can have a toggle maybe?
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If I were voting for how to change it i'd make it MORE relevant.
I'd vote to get rid of transwarps and slipstreams and subspace folding.
Get people back to making the dang trip for a change.
Why even call it a ship?
Transporter chief! Teleport me to my combat platform!
And then back again to here when my combat's over!
So that I never have to 'ship' anywhere.
They didn't quickly remove it. It stuck around for well past the first year. Devs like Gozer even defended it when players complained.
By that logic, traveling to work, school, or some event is a time sink.
this is really a good idea!
u can receive a pop up msg like
"unidentified ship on sensors" and u can decide if to drop out of warp or not
the missions/encounters/search and rescue/distress call will be random just like doff missions
after the removal of the clusters this can add to the feeling of exploration in sto
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