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I want it to be a game of exploration and random events. I want on ship missions and poker nights.
What it is currently is just a dil grind. This type of model does not support long term play. It supports massive player churn. I know grinding is just the way of mmo's, but here it seems more of a grind for grinding's sake with no real payoff.
I've cut down my play to about 1 hour a week and don't bother with boxes or dil any longer.
It's late and I think I've had too much to drink. :cool:
What it is currently is just a dil grind. This type of model does not support long term play. It supports massive player churn. I know grinding is just the way of mmo's, but here it seems more of a grind for grinding's sake with no real payoff.
I've cut down my play to about 1 hour a week and don't bother with boxes or dil any longer.
It's late and I think I've had too much to drink. :cool:
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Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Indeed. But who is to blame, really?
I said it in another thread somewhere: All Star Trek games that were worth something (read: worthy of the name. I'm still around to play STO, although there's really no justification to use that license. The setting of STO could be anything) are by companies that don't exist anymore. That should tell you something...
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its high point? old stf's.
its low point? crossfire, season 8, grinding and crafting (its dead jim). they took the old stfs out.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Unfortunately, the way STO is set up means any productive use of time has to be spent doing the same stuff over and over again, and the parts most Trek-like reward the least...
Ain't Nobody Got Time for That
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The STO forums on the other hand are typically three threads away from making the waiting line at the DMV seem like an enjoyable experience, and constantly reaffirms to me why the rest of human society generally agrees upon the idea of Star Trek fans being among the worst our species has to offer the world.
I can wargame as a Klingon or Gorn, fight glorious battles on behalf of the Empire and Hegemony, follow a storyline, and it doesn't cost me a penny.
STO is not perfect but it's as good as can reasonably be expected, given that it's got to walk a tortuous line between hardcore Trek fans, rabid gamers and a casual majority, while making a profit in the process. It's a compromise where there are some things I don't like but a lot that I do.
I don't think it's a coincidence that despite Trek's fairly cerebral nature, most of the games based on it have been wargames, with the exception of the pen-and-paper RPGs like FASA's. That sort of RP does not translate well into an online environment with thousands of players.
Anyway, over three years playing I've developed a quartet of characters that I have some affection for, each embodying a facet of the Trek-verse I like; a dour, ruthlessly efficient Klingon engineer, a scheming Gorn scientist / politician, a heroic 22nd-century Starfleet captain, and an exuberant Klingon Warrior-Philosopher. Their crews and ships reflect those archetypes and it's just fun to keep them ticking over.
Is it "Real" Star Trek? I dunno. It's good enough for me. Because I do not allow myself to treat Star Trek or an MMO as some sort of religion. Which is not healthy and may very well be the sign of needing some professional help.
same here, it is neither the greatest nor the worst Star Trek game, but it is good enough and enjoyable.
On the other hand, if it wasn't f2p, i wouldn't be playing anymore. Bought the game in 2011, because i found a collectors edtion and 5 prepaid cards for 20 euros at a shop. So i gave it a try despite the awefull ratings.
Otherwise i would have startet playing with f2p i guess.
now a just play because i "need to scratch my Star Trek itch" but i hardly ever stick around for more than 1 hour per day. Actually a healthy way to play a MMO.
...something that has potential that is constantly squandered by the developers.
... something that I don't spend money on anymore.
Clearly, you aren't a "Real" Star Trek fan. :rolleyes:
we have gone over to neverwinter. I'm on about 10 minutes a day to grind the pearls for the risian ships
Actually I've gone to the new Swordsman game which is quite amazing.
But honestly I would like to see the game get back more on the Trek track of finding new worlds, interacting more with your crew, fun stuff that a ship does out of port.
Hopefully the new expansion will have this in mind.
Star Trek Battles member. Want to roll with a good group of people regardless of fleets and not have to worry about DPS while doing STFs? Come join the channel and join in the fun!
http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
I agree with you in regards to Star Trek online, it is an enjoyable game if you can overlook a few things here and there.
Don't you know? I'm the guy you observe doing those things so you record them in your logs
There where many good and bad Star Trek games in the past. But only very few accomplished to create a real Star Trek feeling. But sadly most games where just combat simulators or strategy games, while it would make much more sense to create some adventure or open world RPG games.
For me STO is first and foremost a example of a IP squeezed into the wrong format.
Trek was always about one ship, one crew. Adventures took place 75% INSIDE the ship. It was filled with sense of wonder and moral issues.
Massive fleet actions War and killing thousands and where just exception. Such a game would make much more sense with other IPs like BSG or Star Wars.
(Not to speak of a completely wrong representation of the main characters of Star Trek: the Ships.)
...and the telling point lies in the question: How many current Star Trek games are there?
It's a facebook time-waster with a Star Trek skin. Any claim that it's anything more is fanboy devotion giving it more than any actual implementation of it ever deserved.
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instead, I buy the game, (go on the blind date) and boom, lots of disappointment. sure there are elements of the game that are cool. but they chose to make a "Star Trek" game, and in doing so have completely missed what "Star Trek" is about.
to me Star Trek was about exploration, and Gene's vision of the future. a future without currencies, a future where we ask questions and try to find a peacefull ending before we attack or destroy. a future where expanding our knowledge was our driving force.
instead, I got a star trek combat simulator.. literally, 99.9% of the game is combat oriented, and cryptic didn't even give the vision of star trek a reach around. lol.. combat would be excusable if we fallowed the prime directive, ie, we don't fire until fired apon, or have clearance to do so. half the time you warp in, and you destroy destroy destroy with little thought as to what you are doing.
im not saying there should be no combat, but.. there should be more missions like the breen missions where you have the choice to do something other than attack. that is what encounters are to me in trek. sure, I like firing my phasers and dropping torpedoes on someone too, but not every single time I do a mission. I want to "think", which is not something you have to do at all to play this game. its actually pretty mind numbing.
also, with the amount of death and destruction you cause, it should have bearing on the story of the game. ive literally ran into enemy npc's that when you interact with them talk about how the federation is all talk and no action.. UMMM ARE YOU KIDDING ME lol.. all I do is blow **** up.. id say from my perspective, the federation is shoot first ask questions later now. lol..
ill give them this, the game is a good combat simulator, it is a good resource for all things sci fi, cause they focus more on turning the game into a star wars/back to the future/ stargate / jurrassic park simulator that looks trek, than actually making the game a trek game.
need more proof that they really just don't care about star trek and what it is to people.. look at the romulan fraction...
A perfect example of a massively wasted opportunity and potential.