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Shouldn't this ship have the cruiser command buttons like the Galaxy and the Vor'cha? Or did I miss something?
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But they did give sensor analysis and secondary deflectors to the scibirds. They were trying to sell the Dyson ships when they came up with those.
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Except that Escort-Warbirds also have those singularity powers. That leaves the Big D'D and Ha'apax/Haakona stuck with nothing special compaired to the Escort-Birds.
If you don't know how to take advantage of that, then you never had business with the D'Deridex to begin with.
Next only thing lacking I see is a target worthy of my D'Deridex to destroy. So far I own the battlefield when I show up.
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I've actually tried the Fleet Mogai in such a role and it actually works pretty well. The increased speed and turn let you keep your beams in the fight better. However, it doesn't have the durability of a D'D nor does it get any real sci powers to play with.
Gotta agree with Warmaker and Farmallm, D'D has a unique flavor to it that can work well if done right. Admittedly, it takes a lot of investment to make it pvp viable, but I happily will take mine into kerrat or the queues.
Not all ships are set up like this, but some are.
The problem with D'deridex as well as the Ha'apax is that they're lackluster when compared to other warbirds. Almost anything you can do on these ships you could do better with others. You could argue that they're the most tanky of them all, but that's about it.
Sure... Warbirds in generall are a power creep joke with their superior operative captains and boffs, singularity powers and battle cloaks. Not to mention the Scimitars, which are the biggest joke of them all. The D'deridex IS lacking when compared to them, even though it may not be a bad ship in itself. Same goes for Ha'apax.
Still, I'm in strong favor of adding SOMETHING to the D'deridex and Ha'apax that would make them more desireable. Be it cruiser commands or just some other buff (preferably turn rate). As it is, it's the same issue as with the Galaxy in my opinion.
The Ha'pax is, similarly, an utterly traditionalist cruiser in form and therefore quite thoroughly lackluster. If not cruiser commands, perhaps the swap-o-boff tech when it splits up into pieces, where the Cdr Eng+Lt Tac becomes Cdr Tac+Lt Eng when split into Escort Mode, and CdrEng + LtSci becomes Cdr Sci + Lt Eng when in Sci Mode. That transformer tech deserves to be used SOMEWHERE.
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Well, its an engineering heavy ship, you see? It can be *very* resilient in the hands of an engineer. When you get to the tier 5 hull (which is, as i already explained, the first thing you should go for) its brought up to three TAC console slots (from 2) and hard points to 4/4 (from 4/3).
As i said you should start out with the T5 Refit, which is in this case the D'deridex Warbird Battle Cruiser Retrofit, sporting a Projected Singularity, basically turning the ship into a caterpillar:
"This singularity rupture will travel approximately 8km in front of your ship, dragging nearby foes along in its wake, before imploding."
So in addition to all that hard points (admit ably not with high-tac-console count, but you can work with that) and resiliency you also get one very irritating ability. You don't fire this thing at people, you shove them INTO it, which means you can do this with multiple enemies at once. You can move this, okay?
Step 2:
Get the D'ridthau Warbird Battle Cruiser, sporting a Molecular Phase Inverter:
Not really a cloak it makes you basically impervious to any form of damage: +300 Resistance to all, kinetic damage immunity, shield damage taken reduced by 90%.
As i said it is no cloak, so watch your opponents burn through their abilities whilst sipping a martini.
They couldn't really kill you before. NOW they definitely will have a problem. Oh, yeas i know it has a cool down, but you see: as this timer runs your OTHER abilities recharge, which mean you can apply them right again.
The really ridiculous consoles come with the low tier pay ships and this is no exception.
Step 3:
Get the fleet hull (and this will be cheap because you already bought the T5 retrofit - just ONE module for ~500 Zen), trade an engi console slot for an science console slot, which means you can now mount three instead of four field generator consoles, giving another ~18% boost to your overall shield capacity.
I won't even detail out the various incremental upgrades to your turn rate which come from various upgrades and boni.
Step 4:
Slap the Jemmy set on it and the Protonic Arsenal The boni apply to protonic and polaron, wich means in the case of protonic polaron BOTH sets PLUS tac consoles.
Best thing about it? Once bought its aviable for ANY char minus the fleet hull (which has to acquired each time but is the cheapest in any case).
Pricetag for this? 3500 Zen and 500 for each subsequent character who wants to use it (with a fleet hull, anythign else is free subsequently) in your account.
And you want to BUFF this ship? Are you sure?
Its got DREADNOUGHT in the name. Shouldnt it get DREADNOUGHT commands?
What's it gonna be?
We got 5 SRO's
We got battlecloak
We got singularity powers
We got the Valdor console
For gods sake what more do you need ?
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What is your beef with the Warbird Banana, Cryptic?
At the very least, it needs the threat increasing cruiser command. It is supposed to be a tank, after all.
There's no call for a PVE tank in this game, threat gen does squat in PVP, and battlecruisers don't get Attract Fire anyway. There are certainly builds that could make use of the Strategic Maneuvering command, though (I know I could use it on mine).
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All of this aside, adding a taunt move to the game and then not giving it to a tank is silly.
I agree with that sentiment but at the same time, I'd like to see the Romulan Republic deploy an equivalent to the Federation AVENGER Class and Klingon MOGH Class cruisers. Obviously there will be the usual modifiers that account for the Romulan battle cloak and singularity powers.
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