BSselling PvP access or something like that would also be too specific. Whatever we want, it would need to be designd to appeal to the vast population of players. Say, if we want a leaderboards system, it would need to be something that would integrate with reputations or PvE missions, for example.
You got the first part right, the second part is whats wrong with the game
PVP needs to be part of the normal Universe that players participate in.
The universe needs to have dynamic conflict (territories, border wars, etc), that PVP can be a part of
The universe needs to have faction territory
The game needs a universe, instead of being a sack of instanced combat scripts
You got the first part right, the second part is whats wrong with the game
PVP needs to be part of the normal Universe that players participate in.
The universe needs to have dynamic conflict (territories, border wars, etc), that PVP can be a part of
The universe needs to have faction territory
The game needs a universe, instead of being a sack of instanced combat scripts
You are right, but you have to be careful. There have to be some limitations because a lot of those PvE-All-Day-Long-NPC-Bashers can not cope with a loss. They would run away from the game if they find themselves in situation there is no STF-I-Win-Button. Second you have to avoid that griefers would camp common players.
And lets face it. This all sounds good, but you will never never never see something like this in that game. All we can expect is grind, and more grind, and even more grind.
on topic:
i don't think by now the question is "what", it's more like "if at all" and "when". and i think after 4 years this question may deserve an answer that in the end is not just lights and smoke.
Oh right, it was this one and the one before ! WOW Cryptic is doing really well in advancing PvP gameplay. Best PvP seasons ever! The seasons that destroyed PvP further! Thats what they meant by PvP Seasons.
Oh right, it was this one and the one before ! WOW Cryptic is doing really well in advancing PvP gameplay. Best PvP seasons ever! The seasons that destroyed PvP further! Thats what they meant by PvP Seasons.
1 foreward weapon-slot and a chariot-like scissor-board may would have fit the term pvp .,... "pvp-race" rofl
All you need for PvP is for your opponents to be other players; you don't strictly need to be shooting at them (we just like to). :P
Still, combat racing is definitely something I hope Cryptic is considering for the future; as an engineer with a preference for explosives, I can't help but wish I could drop mines behind my board as I go.
Lean181818
Q: When will you guys do something new in PvP content?
A: I dont know, hopefully soon. I know PvP could really use some love right now, in the past seasons we havent put much into PvP except for the shuttle PvP map queue. We know a lot of people love PvP and we are hoping we can get something out soon.
lmao... anyone in the mood to discuss?
p.s: havam, cryptics history with pvp plz... :mad:
It's not classic space battles - apparently, most combat is in the atmosphere, but the ships evoked a bit of a Battlestar Galactica and the combat a STO feel to me. Except perhaps with less space magic.
And considering that STO has its "2.5D Space Combat" going for it, atmospheric combat might not be so far off.
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It's not classic space battles - apparently, most combat is in the atmosphere, but the ships evoked a bit of a Battlestar Galactica and the combat a STO feel to me. Except perhaps with less space magic.
And considering that STO has its "2.5D Space Combat" going for it, atmospheric combat might not be so far off.
looks awesome. i probably will have a look on it, thx
You can't get better in a game if you have no reason to play it.The only reason i login is to see my ingame friends and if they play a match or two i join.The game got boring and if they don't do something PvP fast (anything) more people will get that "no reason to play" feeling and leave the game
PVP is the only self-containing content, it is a content - once made - FREE, and REPEATABLE.
Which means it will keep people, which are otherwise tired of the grind, playing and staying with the game.
IF they do it right (some kind of territory control, mass pvp, perhaps a PVP/PVE map... , nice dill reward for doing it) - they could get also the PVE population.
PVP is the only self-containing content, it is a content - once made - FREE, and REPEATABLE.
Which means it will keep people, which are otherwise tired of the grind, playing and staying with the game.
IF they do it right (some kind of territory control, mass pvp, perhaps a PVP/PVE map... , nice dill reward for doing it) - they could get also the PVE population.
isn't it? it is since ever and for years they've been told that. such a shame one has to tell em imo. now make ur own conclusions about the longtime quality-factor of this game :mad:
You can't get better in a game if you have no reason to play it.The only reason i login is to see my ingame friends and if they play a match or two i join.The game got boring and if they don't do something PvP fast (anything) more people will get that "no reason to play" feeling and leave the game
[Zone] Dack@****: cowards can't take a fed 1 on 1 crinckley cowards Hahahaha you smell like flowers
Random Quote from Kerrat
"Sumlobus@****: your mums eat Iced Targ Poo"
C&H Fed banter
Hey, at least we get this awesome doff face lift and this fabulous new crafting :rolleyes:
if they'd even touched the foundry first and may just opened map-making to pvp, so we could have got some new surrondings at least... but yeah: crafting...
taken from latest ufp interview with salami-inferno:
"
With PvP being a big piece of end-game content in any successful MMO, it is fair to say that STO has been lacking in this area for a very long time, when will we see the attention that PvP deserves - will there be a major update or season dedicated to PvP in the next calendar year?
STEPHEN - PvP is something we definitely want to dedicate a season to, but it will be a significant undertaking to get done. Everything from maps, to game types, to leader boards, will all take a long time to pull together, but it is an important feature set that we do want to get to in the future.
"
"future".... all the long planned additions that already had been like finished years ago (lol) finally and forever turned from "soon(tm)" into "future" ...
so pack ya bags and leave for about 2 years or more? reminds me of all the sayin when i started to play over 2 years ago.... "soon(tm)"...."hope"...... "future" lol
but on the other hand one starts to pray that they first gonna finish all the other "long-planned" changes to meta and non-meta before they touch pvp directly i'd almost say... oh wait: all those changes already mostly impact pvp-only lol
...
Hang in their PvP folks, I know your strong and have mighty PvP skills, and we all hope to bring you news of more content in the future.
~CaptainSmirk
... just another heads up. the words to connect nowadays in terms of pvp obviously are "hope" and "future".:rolleyes::(
what just happened to the good ol' "soon(tm)" lol ...
This Thread is still up?... forgive me for being so negative, but i don't expect STO Dev team led by Captain Geko to make a PvP season whatsoever unless he changes the way he thinks or get replace by sum1 that can do a good job at putting out PvP content along with PvE and not solely focus on PvE like Geko have been doing.
So again, i will most likely hear from the Dev's once Season 10 comes out and sum1 tells them again ''will there be any updates to PvP'' their same response as always be to PvP'ers is ''Sorry guys, wait for PvP updates next season!''
To PvE'ers who will claim that Shuttles and Cross-Factions PvP mess is an update... they're not, it just the same Copy & Paste **** with fed maps like FvF CnH map used for Cross Factions PvP instead of the KvF one which proves my another point of Cryptic being Pro-Fed.
Isometric charge
T5 Nukara
Fleet support
Photonic fleet.
Proton Barrage
Enhanced bio molecular torpedo spread.
They didn't bother to scale damage to the level of shuttle battle. Shuttle pvp was dead on arrival.
Also fleets were already doing private shuttles matches, for a long time now and match settings were more regulated and balanced, no one was unhappy. That addition to public queues was a waste of time and resources, and every pvper should feel insulted they did that.
to be fair, we only got that mess due to jesse coding it in his free-time. it was not intended, but then implemented by the team.
i can't blame him for this oversight, for something done in his free-time. but though, yeah. one could have imagined, at least someone on the team before pushing it to holo :rolleyes:...
to be fair, we only got that mess due to jesse coding it in his free-time. it was not intended, but then implemented by the team.
i can't blame him for this oversight, for something done in his free-time. but though, yeah. one could have imagined, at least someone on the team before pushing it to holo :rolleyes:...
People working on PvP maps on their free time, thats how Ker'rat got their spawn change... by sum1 doing that on their ''free time''.
This obviously shows that there are members of the STO team want to improve PvP but it also show the ignorance of the Lead STO Dev's *cough* Geko *cough* not to improve PvP and spread their propaganda that incompetent PvE AI's are the real threats to adaptive thinking minded players and express that other adaptive thinking minded players are not good enemies.
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PVP needs to be part of the normal Universe that players participate in.
The universe needs to have dynamic conflict (territories, border wars, etc), that PVP can be a part of
The universe needs to have faction territory
The game needs a universe, instead of being a sack of instanced combat scripts
You are right, but you have to be careful. There have to be some limitations because a lot of those PvE-All-Day-Long-NPC-Bashers can not cope with a loss. They would run away from the game if they find themselves in situation there is no STF-I-Win-Button. Second you have to avoid that griefers would camp common players.
And lets face it. This all sounds good, but you will never never never see something like this in that game. All we can expect is grind, and more grind, and even more grind.
...or look out for a posse of picard, data, a klink and a borg
on topic:
i don't think by now the question is "what", it's more like "if at all" and "when". and i think after 4 years this question may deserve an answer that in the end is not just lights and smoke.
Wheres my PvP Season?
Oh right, it was this one and the one before ! WOW Cryptic is doing really well in advancing PvP gameplay. Best PvP seasons ever! The seasons that destroyed PvP further! Thats what they meant by PvP Seasons.
Nails
in
the
coffin.
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totally agree. but also they had more than ngh time to evolve certain ways to handle this complex
reads like directly from their schedule
Girls?
Well, there you have it, the experts have spoken.
I love powerboards.
1 foreward weapon-slot and a chariot-like scissor-board may would have fit the term pvp
All you need for PvP is for your opponents to be other players; you don't strictly need to be shooting at them (we just like to). :P
Still, combat racing is definitely something I hope Cryptic is considering for the future; as an engineer with a preference for explosives, I can't help but wish I could drop mines behind my board as I go.
The following video is of my idea how the idea of doing any thing about PvP goes:
Low level devs/players(Peter Parker) ask if next season will be about PvP(for the last 9 seasons!)
High level devs/Al rivera(Jonah Jameson) response:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4
yeah i know
i lol'd.... and then killed my tears with bacon ^^ :mad:
This title sounds interesting: Dreadnought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm0g7mDKFq0
Maybe more insightful for German viewers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auk7ftRvusI
(though the gameplay footage is cool looking)
It's not classic space battles - apparently, most combat is in the atmosphere, but the ships evoked a bit of a Battlestar Galactica and the combat a STO feel to me. Except perhaps with less space magic.
And considering that STO has its "2.5D Space Combat" going for it, atmospheric combat might not be so far off.
looks awesome. i probably will have a look on it, thx
s9.5 is crafting revamp :mad:...
anyone else remember that poll pre s7?
1. roms
2. fully fleshed out klinks
3. fe's
4. PVP
5. exploration
6. stf's
7. crafting
8. rare ships
9. doff-system
10. foundry
hmmmmm..... :mad:
PVP 2014 - Fawn00bs,Vapers and leavers...
Which means it will keep people, which are otherwise tired of the grind, playing and staying with the game.
IF they do it right (some kind of territory control, mass pvp, perhaps a PVP/PVE map... , nice dill reward for doing it) - they could get also the PVE population.
isn't it? it is since ever and for years they've been told that. such a shame one has to tell em imo. now make ur own conclusions about the longtime quality-factor of this game
...coming closer and closer
I liked mine better :P
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=227217
Random Quote from Kerrat
"Sumlobus@****: your mums eat Iced Targ Poo"
C&H Fed banter
if they'd even touched the foundry first and may just opened map-making to pvp, so we could have got some new surrondings at least... but yeah: crafting...
taken from latest ufp interview with salami-inferno:
"future".... all the long planned additions that already had been like finished years ago (lol) finally and forever turned from "soon(tm)" into "future"
so pack ya bags and leave for about 2 years or more? reminds me of all the sayin when i started to play over 2 years ago.... "soon(tm)"...."hope"...... "future" lol
but on the other hand one starts to pray that they first gonna finish all the other "long-planned" changes to meta and non-meta before they touch pvp directly i'd almost say... oh wait: all those changes already mostly impact pvp-only lol
... just another heads up. the words to connect nowadays in terms of pvp obviously are "hope" and "future".:rolleyes::(
what just happened to the good ol' "soon(tm)" lol
So again, i will most likely hear from the Dev's once Season 10 comes out and sum1 tells them again ''will there be any updates to PvP'' their same response as always be to PvP'ers is ''Sorry guys, wait for PvP updates next season!''
To PvE'ers who will claim that Shuttles and Cross-Factions PvP mess is an update... they're not, it just the same Copy & Paste **** with fed maps like FvF CnH map used for Cross Factions PvP instead of the KvF one which proves my another point of Cryptic being Pro-Fed.
to be fair, we only got that mess due to jesse coding it in his free-time. it was not intended, but then implemented by the team.
i can't blame him for this oversight, for something done in his free-time. but though, yeah. one could have imagined, at least someone on the team before pushing it to holo :rolleyes:...
People working on PvP maps on their free time, thats how Ker'rat got their spawn change... by sum1 doing that on their ''free time''.
This obviously shows that there are members of the STO team want to improve PvP but it also show the ignorance of the Lead STO Dev's *cough* Geko *cough* not to improve PvP and spread their propaganda that incompetent PvE AI's are the real threats to adaptive thinking minded players and express that other adaptive thinking minded players are not good enemies.